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Bill of Rights
« on: April 08, 2013, 10:57:55 AM »
  Why is it that neocons scream about the second amendment but don't seem to care about the first,fourth,tenth. I do not understand.The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
  Oh and before I'm called a liberal ,I consider myself Libertarian.Dont care what people do in the privacy of their own homes.

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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 11:09:56 AM »
SIX posts 6 really, Did ya sell that ammo in the classifieds, you bought cheap yet?
 
Are you new, or are you someones alter ego. You trying to win friends and influence people.  Have you been here(read- lurking) long. Com'on pardner let us get to know you before we decide if we like you or not. Its ok to be libertarian, and even neocon, heck its even ok to be a democrat. We all like the bill of rights, all of em, even the socialist here. They just wont know it until they are gone(the rights I mean) Go into the archives and do a little reading you'll see.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
Let's see.
He's been a member for about 9 days so far with a multi vitiam post average---ONE A DAY!
Give him time and then we will learn more about him.
Welcome aboard.
Always good to have a new member join our ranks.
 
 
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 03:26:09 PM »
 Wow,,I make a statement and Mr. Happy Moderator is gonna start judging.Let us figure out if we like you. I don't care if you like me.
  I am new and what about the ammo,I priced it high so I could drop price.I sold it cheaper than what you can buy it for on the shelf.
 What I said was not directed at anyone here, just in general from what Ive noticed about far right people. I see lots of liberal bashing on here so whats the difference.   You can have your forum.   I'm done

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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 05:19:21 PM »
Wow! you burst on the scene and blasting and name calling. and I ask whats up with that. 
 
OH about the ammo........... that was a wag. (Wild assed guess) 
Hmmmmmm!
Maybe you are lil sensative about that huh?  If my post offended you. Your tenure here in the "discussion forums" was gonna be a real bad experience.  Its kinda like hunting, only the Game (neocons, et all) shoot back.
 
 I did not judge, I think you did! I suggested you read some history and see that we all here like and support the Bill of rights. And I'm still happy!
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 02:34:54 AM »
The bottom line is it is against the rules here to say anything about the Republicans doing any wrong, it is that simple.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 04:17:45 AM »
The bottom line is it is against the rules here to say anything about the Republicans doing any wrong, it is that simple.
  I have wrote many negative postings about Republicans and Democrats in this forum.  I had not seen any rules against writing negative postings about Republicans or Democrats.  I seems to me from the previous writings that some people believe that their way of thinking should not be challenged and if it is challenged it is unfair.  Well if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 04:21:08 AM »
Quote from George Foster:
"The bottom line is it is against the rules here to say anything about the Republicans doing any wrong, it is that simple."


You forgot a few more:
or conservatives
or tea party
or believe in global warming
or believe morals should not be legislated
anything that appears to be anything other than kill Muslims
support Obama in anyway
you cannot refer to Obama unless it is derogatory
support women's reproductive rights
that most republicans really support illegal immigrants for cheap labor
that anything other than the obama administration is the cause of ammo shortages
That is enough for now.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 04:37:47 AM »
Beachman, when a person who is new asks a question such as he did and a moderator jumps on him first thing I would say you are WRONG.  I always thought moderators were to keep the peace not be predjuice.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 04:50:15 AM »
IMO, FWIW...most on this forum have biased, but well informed opinions, and are able to defend them quite well.


it's debates like take place here that make us what we are today...for the moment...a free nation and society.


i am NOT an obama fan or supporter in ANY way or fashion...those who are, will pay the price the same as those of who are not.


this nation, while still free, is more divided today than it has been since the revolutionary war, and, the civil war...why? and who's responsible?
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 04:50:18 AM »
I believe woodduck99 started out with an inflammatory question that was not based on any actual truth and the moderator wrote that woodduck99 was welcomed regardless of political affiliation.  When a person makes ambiguous inflammatory statements  just to stir the pot, one has to wonder what the agenda is.  Many posters here are obviously anti-republican.  If you seem to think that freedom of speech is just limited to liberals and democrats.  Republicans and conservatives are also allowed to speak freely, regardless of what you may think. 
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 05:08:10 AM »
I believe woodduck99 started out with an inflammatory question that was not based on any actual truth and the moderator wrote that woodduck99 was welcomed regardless of political affiliation.  When a person makes ambiguous inflammatory statements  just to stir the pot, one has to wonder what the agenda is.  Many posters here are obviously anti-republican.  If you seem to think that freedom of speech is just limited to liberals and democrats.  Republicans and conservatives are also allowed to speak freely, regardless of what you may think.

It seems to me the truth of the matter with this site is just the opposite of what you're saying.  But then oh well I don't really care.
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 05:31:13 AM »
Let me clarify something here. I am not the Moderator on this forum. I have no authority to do anything here but respond as any of you do. I did respond to his inflammatory post but thought I had made it clear that WE all believe in the Bill of Rights. That was my point.
 
Seems to me unless you have been around awhile and HAVE been abused, you may not want to start out abusing. Some here think that when you make a post and someone disagrees and post to back up their opinion that you are being "ATTACKED".
 
LET THE CHIPS FALL.  If you just post negative spew whenever a subject is presented(and you know who you are) then your delicate sensibilities should not be offended when someone rebukes them.
 
 
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 05:57:19 AM »
OK every one back to bed and don't get up from your nap till your in a better mood or get out the other side of the bed.!!!!

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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 06:30:07 AM »
  Why is it that neocons scream about the second amendment but don't seem to care about the first,fourth,tenth. I do not understand.The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
  Oh and before I'm called a liberal ,I consider myself Libertarian.Dont care what people do in the privacy of their own homes.
We DO care... it's just that without the second the rest will fall like dominos.........................
Just another worthless opinion!!

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 06:45:55 AM »
I'm not quite sure who you want to label as a neocon, or for that matter what a neocon actually is,but it shouldn't come as a shock that the Second Amendment gets a little more press on a firearms forum then some of the other parts of the Bill of Rights.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 08:19:01 AM »
  Why is it that neocons scream about the second amendment but don't seem to care about the first,fourth,tenth. I do not understand.The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
  Oh and before I'm called a liberal ,I consider myself Libertarian.Dont care what people do in the privacy of their own homes.
lets see if you voice your opinion and remain out of jail then the 1st is working and doing fine. You noted our love and protection of the 2nd , well with out it the others are nothing but ink on paper. The 4th ? well you have not read much here or you skipped the good parts , there are post made just today on the matter. The same could be said of the 10th also.
You fail to realize that we believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights along with the Bible for many of us. Libertarian good for you I also embrace some of their ideas. How ever I do care what one does in their home if it will have a negative effect on others like say run a meth. lab. or such. The patriot act once more you must have missed the post there have been many.
I find it some what premature to come read so little make only nine post then pass judgment on us. More times than not what you did is seen as trolling and you will be trashed for doing so. Now TM 7 is a master of it he can stay right on the edge . But with him he also offers some good post from time to time. He is taking your side good for you , learn !
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 04:50:15 PM »
  Why is it that neocons scream about the second amendment but don't seem to care about the first,fourth,tenth. I do not understand.The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
  Oh and before I'm called a liberal ,I consider myself Libertarian.Dont care what people do in the privacy of their own homes.


Really, you don't care if someone kills your loved ones in their own home?  You don't care if someone is furnishing drugs to children in their own home?  You don't care if someone is plotting to forcefully overthrow your government in their own home?  You don't care if someone is committing rape in their own home?  Tell me when I hit on one that you do care about.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 01:28:19 AM »
  Why is it that neocons scream about the second amendment but don't seem to care about the first,fourth,tenth. I do not understand.The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
  Oh and before I'm called a liberal ,I consider myself Libertarian.Dont care what people do in the privacy of their own homes.


Really, you don't care if someone kills your loved ones in their own home?  You don't care if someone is furnishing drugs to children in their own home?  You don't care if someone is plotting to forcefully overthrow your government in their own home?  You don't care if someone is committing rape in their own home?  Tell me when I hit on one that you do care about.

Or more important thought about before posting  ;)  oh yea liberal and thinking in same sentence
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 05:52:51 AM »
  .The reason I say this is because they don't care about the patriot act,ndaa,sopa and all the draconian executive orders put in place by Bush and Obama.Neither which I supported.
If you had been on here for any amount of time you would have discovered most of us supported NONE of this.
 
Personally I feel the Bill of Rights should be read aloud before each and every session of congress........
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 06:08:28 AM »
You can throw GAAT and NAFTA in there also.  I believe most people here are very pro freedom and for a very limited government.  For someone to start off a post calling names and using dubious data if a sign of trolling or a weak mind.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 06:10:22 AM »
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Personally I feel the Bill of Rights should be read aloud before each and every session of congress........

 
Maybe tattoo it on the inside of their eye lids for easy ref. ?
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Re: Bill of Rights
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 09:51:40 AM »
  Never called anyone a name on here. I used the term neocon.Not directed at anyone on this forum or even at this forum.It is a general term used to describe the likes of people like Hannity,Rush,O'reilly to name a few.I listen to talk radio all the time and never heard anyone address patriot act or ndaa,they seem to support homeland defense and the general police state 9/11 has created.
  Maybe some should take some reading comprehension courses.I defened myself against a personal attack where I was called troll and my integrity was questioned.If someone disagrees show me where I directed any attacks on a person here and I will apologize.
  I guess I need to make my post clearer in the future. as far as inflammatory remarks go there is a definite bias.To name a few Muzzies,libbys.satans disciples among othersThey don't offend me and I don't feel I was being offensive.If you feel that I was message me and let me know.   

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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 10:38:35 AM »
  Never called anyone a name on here.but defended yourself incase we did  ::) I used the term neocon.Not directed at anyone on this forum or even at this forum.It is a general term used to describe the likes of people like Hannity,Rush,O'reilly to name a few.I listen to talk radio all the time and never heard anyone address patriot act or ndaa,they seem to support homeland defense and the general police state 9/11 has created.You are kidding right Rush has done so many times and Bill does also but to be fair he tries to give equal time to both sides. Hannity does some but not as loud as others.
  Maybe some should take some reading comprehension courses.maybe some should take some courses on composition   ;) I defened myself against a personal attack where I was called troll and my integrity was questioned.If someone disagrees show me where I directed any attacks on a person here and I will apologize.it seemed like a general attack, throw it out like a net , troll awhile then pull in what you could.
  I guess I need to make my post clearer in the future. as far as inflammatory remarks go there is a definite bias.yes both right and left To name a few Muzzies,libbys.satans disciples among othersThey don't offend me and I don't feel I was being offensive.If you feel that I was message me and let me know.
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