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Offline mannyrock

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Re: goats
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2013, 03:39:50 AM »
 
   Wow.  I'm stunned at all of the horror stories posted about goats.
 
    My pygmies were all females, with horns, and had virtually zero odor.   Their poops were hard round pellets, like a deer, and seemed to just disappear into the ground.   They never ever climbed out of, or even tried to climb out of, their animal wire fenced area.    And in all the years I owned them, I never had to worm them even once.  They were nice, happy, plump animals.
 
    I think the key here may be to avoid billies at all possible costs, and just borrow one a couple times a year for breeding.   
 
   And, if a kid turns out to be a male, then castrate it pronto, and butcher it as soon as it reaches a decent weight  (6 mos?), or sell it as soon as you can.
 
   Funny story, my neighbor raised them, and then just before the Muslim Holy Days, he would advertise them in the paper as meat goats.  One time, a man pulled up in a beautiful Lincoln Continental.   He wanted to buy one to butcher himself for one of their feasts.   He bought one, and I swear he tied its feet, and then picked it up and put it in the trunk of his Lincoln and drove off. 
 
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Re: goats
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2013, 08:13:17 AM »
Hey Bugflipper!
Thanks for that detailed thesis on the hair sheep!!
Very interesting!!
Kind of unique how some species of animals have that self survival mode in their genes! I was really impressed with Spotted Asses, Illama`s, burros, mules " guard dogs" for domestic sheep!
One of the most impressive series of photos I have ever seen was of a pack mule being attacked by a mountain lion. The mule got that mountain lion by the nape of the neck and pop him back and forth several times , threw  him on the ground for a session with the hooves and that was the end of the cat! The pack mule belong to some hunters that were coming down the trail with their horses and hounds. The last photo shows the mule standing over the dead cat and all of the hounds are sitting in the background like spectators!!
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Re: goats
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2013, 08:47:12 AM »
If you want a meat breed, try doing a web search for " Boer goats for sale".  These animals were developed by the Dutchmen who settled in South Africa a couple centuries ago.  They have been imported for a couple decades now, and are built more like beef cattle than goats.
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Re: goats
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2013, 04:27:56 PM »
I'm a dairy (cow) farmer, don't know much about goats. I do have a neighbor that shot one for playing king of the mountain on the hood of his new truck.  I've always thought a small flock of sheep would work well grazing some odd little areas, rock breaks and such where I didn't want to run cows or heifers. We haven't done it, mostly since I just haven't had the time... 

I saw mentioned getting info from some of the glossy magazines and books like Raising Whatever On A Small Scale. Nothing wrong with them I guess if you can devote a bunch of time to getting a little done. From the couple  I've seen, the info wasn't very complete and if you used it as your sole source of info, the results wouldn't likely be too good.  I did a real quick search on the SARE (Sustainable Agriculture) site. I've used info and contacts found here when looking into some new cover crops.  You might find some info there that will be helpful or at least point you in the right direction to get some help from some production oriented folks. Here is a link, this factsheet is regarding parasite problems grazing sheep and goats.   The 2nd link is to ATTRA, another source of info. Some free, some you have to pay for. Sometimes, if you search the web, you can read the same article online elsewhere that they want you to charge you for.

http://www.sare.org/Learning-Center/Fact-Sheets/Sustainable-Control-of-Internal-Parasites-in-Small-Ruminant-Production

https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/livestock/livestock.html#sheep_goat
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