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Offline ChungDoQuan

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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2013, 05:20:05 AM »
Want the prices to drop? Stop buying ammo. They're capitalists, and, as such are ALWAYS predictable. Seriouisly, if everyone stopped the panic buying for one month the prices would drop. They would want to get rid of the overproduced product. Be thankful the government was not talking about getting rid of water.
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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2013, 07:19:52 AM »
[quote author=Dixie Dude link=topic=278876.msg1099699027#msg1099699027 date=136631328
 
I've heard you can flatten out the dimple created in the primers by takeing them apart.  One can cut out old child's caps from cap guns and stack them in the primer and rebuild it.  Said the firing pin should set off the caps which should set off powder.  Also, black powder is easier to ignite than Pyrodex or smokeless powder.  Using caps, black powder, and lead bullets one might could get by.  I think I might try it. 


Those of us who are into muzzleloaders and old enough will remember a little gadget called a "Tap O Cap" to replace commercial percussion caps for rifles, shotguns and revolvers. It was used to cut disks out of an aluminum can, form the disks into cups which then received one or two toy capgun caps. Those homemade caps sort of worked sometimes but not very reliably and the cap gun caps are very corrosive. If you try anything like that do scrub your bore with water to disolve the corrosive salts and follow up with repeated cleanings every day for a week after firing corrosive caps.
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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2013, 07:49:08 AM »
I haven't lost hope. This makes me want to shoot bows, slingshots etc.
I am working on a bow right now, I got some oak from a guy at work. Going to have to drive a hundred miles to get some cat tails to make arrows. I got a range in my back yard.
 
I got a slingshot powered by surgical tubing, I have been using 45 caliber muzzle loader balls for ammo. (no I am not very good with it yet)
 
I made a sling and tried it out, I need much more practice. (I won't be slaying giants anytime soon)
 
A buddy just bought a 45 caliber air rifle I get to try it out pretty soon.
 
My wife just bought me a high powered 22 air air rifle.
 
Those that bought all that ammo to horde and sell at huge prices can eat it for all I am concerned.

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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2013, 07:55:29 AM »
"I've heard you can flatten out the dimple created in the primers by takeing them apart.  One can cut out old child's caps from cap guns and stack them in the primer and rebuild it.  Said the firing pin should set off the caps which should set off powder.  Also, black powder is easier to ignite than Pyrodex or smokeless powder.  Using caps, black powder, and lead bullets one might could get by.  I think I might try it.  "
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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2013, 12:28:45 PM »
What gets me is that some of the same people ranting vehemetly about the government screwing gun owners are the first to take advantage of fellow gun owners for the sake of a buck. I had a guy sell me some .22's at double the price. Then had the audacity later, when discovering I still had them, asked if I'd sell him some back for the same price he charged me. Told him nope. Told him he had taught me economics and since he had doubled the price so was I. :) He wasn't too happy and no he didn't get any of my 22s as I told him the price continued to double every time he opened his mouth! I hope if the crap ever does hit the fan that those gouging are all sold out and caught empty handed! Don't know about you guys but they aint getting nothing from me but the provebial Bird of Paradise!

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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2013, 09:00:09 AM »
Well, one can snare and trap squirrels, rabbits, and even birds.  Connibear 110 traps, rat traps, some sunflower seeds, nuts, or fresh greens for rabbits.  Chicken wire can make quail traps with some cracked corn.  I know all this is illegal unless you buy a trapping liscense or in a survival situation.  This would save tremendously on 22lr use, even shot shell use for small game.  Then you have bows, crossbows, and black powder rifles and pistols.  One can buy lead molds for plain round balls for black powder rifles or even connical bullets for black powder use.  Obtain lead, etc, and one can get buy hunting and trapping.  For self defence, than save your ammo and continue to buy when you can.  22lr ammo is the one I am totally perplexed about.  Never seen a shortage go this long.  Also, is the government buying 22lr ammo also?  Or is everyone just stockpiling it. Another think is a good pellet gun with a very high fps rate can almost = a 22lr for hunting.  I also have given serious thought to buying a 17 hmr because I still see a lot of that ammo on the shelves.  I reload for everything else, but I would like to have more primers for emergencies.  My brass can be reloaded several more times, but I need bullets also, but there is the fallback to lead bullets.  Powder can be substitued sometimes, one could even use blackpowder in a pinch with lead bullets. 

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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2013, 10:15:16 AM »
can't get caught trapping limb rats in Va.
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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2013, 10:43:51 AM »
Shootall:  That reminds me of hitting White Tail with cut .410 shells back in one of those eastern states, where rifles are not allowed.

A bunch of people at the last gun show were disappointed when they could not sell but a few of their Black Rifles.  People in the crowd would tell them fo go to Sportsman's, they are selling them at the old price.  I bought my first Black Rifle, A DPMS two weeks ago for $800.00, shoots real good.

A local DJ has a show every friday, called "Firearms Friday".  For the last two years, since the last shortage he has said buy a couple of boxes of ammo every week.  Most people in Fairbanks have done that.  Firearms Friday is streamed live on the web at "660KFAR" from 4 to 6 PM Alaska time.  We are 4 hours behind the East Coast.  Michel Dukes is the DJ, and some days he really get off on a rant about the governments overbearing controls.  Good listen, some of you may want to try it sometime.  Might even hear me sometimes, I go by "Graybeard" ,  Sorry but I was using that title long before I ever heard of Graybeard Outdoors.
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Re: Loosing faith/patience
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2013, 10:51:18 AM »
You know I never understood living day to day. And will try that station !
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