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War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« on: April 16, 2013, 03:59:27 AM »
Standing up for one's rights may carry a cost, especially true when cops react with unreasonable fear.
By Todd Starnes
A decorated war veteran on a Boy Scout hike with his 15-year-old son was arrested alongside a Texas country road after a police officer accused him of “rudely displaying” a firearm.
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Army Master Sgt. C.J. Grisham told Fox News he was illegally disarmed by members of the Temple Police Dept. – even though he held the proper permits to carry his weapons.
Grisham and his son were on a 10-mile hike in a rural area populated by wild boars and cougars. He was carrying an AR-15 rifle and a .45 caliber pistol.Master Sgt. CJ Grisham with his children on the day he returned from Afghanistan.Master Sgt. CJ Grisham with his children on the day he returned from Afghanistan.He was charged with resisting arrest – even though video his son filmed of the incident clearly showed that Grisham did not resist arrest. Police later reduced the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty – a class B misdemeanor.
“I’m still frankly and honestly 100 percent confused about what I’m being charged with,” Grisham said.
Temple Police told local media that the Fort Hood soldier refused to hand of his weapon – leading to his arrest. However, the video shows that Grisham complied with their demands.
One of the officers told Grisham that anyone holding a gun is considered dangerous, according to a 15-minute video obtained by Fox News.
“In this day and age people are alarmed when they see someone with what you have,” one of the officers told a handcuffed Grisham. “They don’t care what the law is.”
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At one point in the video Grisham asked the officers why they failed to ask to see his carry and conceal permit.
The video shows the arresting officer telling the Fort Hood soldier that he was “rudely displaying” the AR-15.
Grisham, who is a “huge Constitutionalist,” then asked the officer if he cared what the law is.
“The easy wrong would have been to surrender my rights and allow the cops to disarm me,” he said. “That’s the easy wrong to me. The hard right is putting ourselves on the line knowing that something could happen.”
Grisham told Fox News he plans on fighting the charges and suing the police department for what he considered to be an illegal arrest and violating his Constitutional rights.
“For the first time in my life, I had to sit in jail,” he said. “I’ve never been in jail — never been accused of a crime. I was treated like a street thug.”
A pre-trial hearing has been set for May 29th.Master Sgt. CJ Grisham with President Bush in the Oval Office.Master Sgt. CJ Grisham with President Bush in the Oval Office.Grisham, a well-known military blogger, is a decorated veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He’s served in the military for more than 18 years and was awarded the Bronze Star with Valor. But he came under fire within the military for a blog posting that was critical of President Obama. Columnist Michelle Malkin once wrote about Grisham’s plight.
The master sergeant, his wife and their three children live on a farm in Temple — about two miles from where he was arrested.
Grisham’s trouble with the law started in mid-March. His son Chris was working on one of the final merit badges he needed to become an Eagle Scout. Chris had chosen hiking.
Father and son grabbed their gear and headed out on a blustery Saturday morning to hike about 10 miles. They were midway through the trip when Grisham turned around and saw a police car.
“At that point I heard him tell us to hold on a second and he motioned for me and my son to come back,” Grisham said. “He didn’t have his lights on. Everything was calm and casual. He asked what we were doing.”
Grisham had his AR-15 slung around the front of his body — a rifle he’s been using since he joined the military.
At some point the officer pulled his pistol on the father and son and grabbed Grisham’s AR-15.
“He slammed me onto the hood of the car,” he said. “I had my hands straight up and that’s when I saw our camera – and turned it on.”
For the next 15 minutes, Grisham’s son recorded the entire incident.Christopher GrishamChristopher Grisham“I wanted to make sure that we had everything on film,” he said. “Everything that happened that day was manufactured by the police officer. We weren’t out there to make a statement. Our intention was to hike 10 miles and go home.”
By all indications, Grisham was arrested just because he was legally carrying his firearms.
And as bad as he was treated, Grisham said he is furious over how the police treated his son.
Chris followed his dad’s instructions to keep the videotape going — even though it’s clear the incident took an emotional toll on the boy. As the officers put Grisham in the back of the car, the video picked up sounds of Chris crying.
The officers told Grisham they would take the boy home.
“I told him not to answer any questions,” Grisham said. “I told him not to answer a single question until his mother was there — and she would answer the questions for him.”
But that’s not what happened.
Chris told Fox News that the police officer refused to let him out of the car until he answered a series of questions. The boy had not been arrested.
“The officer told me that I wasn’t getting out of the patrol car until I answered his questions,” Chris said. “He said I didn’t have a choice. I was scared.”
Grisham said his boy was traumatized by the incident.
“Every time he sees a police officer he has a panic attack,” he said. “That’s unfortunate because we always taught our kids to respect police officers. My wife and I are angry about it.”
He said he explained to his son that they did nothing wrong on that day.
“My son has his own copy of the Constitution,” Grisham said. “He understands his rights. He understand the concept of choosing the hard right over the easy wrong.”
Chris told Fox News that he looks up to his father — and admires him for what he did on the side of that road.
“When I grow up, I want to be like him — he inspires me,” the 15-year-old said.
Grisham said the events of last month have led him to question why he is still in the military.
“It doesn’t seem like our rights are being respected,” he said. “For me, it’s a difficult turning point. I wonder what it is that I’m fighting for. If our basic rights are being violated this way — what is my purpose?”
And as Grisham awaits his court date, Chris is gearing up to start his Eagle Scout project. The teenager will be working on a local historic cemetery – repairing headstones and replacing signs.
But the young boy wonders what will happen to his dad.
“He didn’t do anything wrong at all,” he said.
 

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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 04:11:11 AM »
I am rapidly losing respect for law enforcement.  Seem to me the LE want to be able to have total control of the population and deny people their rights.  They got big egos.  I hope the Master Sgt brings a couple down, legally.
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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 04:18:19 AM »
COYOTEJOE. Thanks for the post Sir. What a crock of liberal crappolla. Rural area, wild boars, etc, being armed. Makes sense. I hope that libby gung ho leo is suspended or fired. THere was no situation there for him to handle. What a jerk. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 04:22:41 AM »
The local cops are getting more and more like the feds.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 05:53:24 AM »
Shameful. 
 
Obviously the Temple officer "doesn't care what the law is" either.  Somebody should explain to him that citizens have no legal obligation to "cooperate" (submit to unreasonable search and seizure) with the police if they are not breaking the law.

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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 09:15:38 AM »
In Texas !!! :o :o
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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 09:19:45 AM »
I am rapidly losing respect for law enforcement.  Seem to me the LE want to be able to have total control of the population and deny people their rights.  They got big egos.  I hope the Master Sgt brings a couple down, legally.
I lost any respect I had for law enforcement a while ago. Crap like this now just feeds the rapidly growing contempt I have for that group
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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 09:20:32 AM »
I would NEVER "rudely display" my rifle in public, within sight of a police officer.


maybe my gun, but not my rifle...
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 09:23:30 AM »
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 01:24:04 AM »
In Texas, really?? I would suspect something like that happening here in Ohio,maybe. Way to many cops citified. Big ego's and a gestapo atitude. Too bad, it'll only make it harder on themselves when they need backup. gypsyman
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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 03:25:30 AM »
Looks like Mr. Grisham should run for sheriff. He seems to have the exsperience and the fortitude.

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Re: War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 03:54:40 AM »
How in heavens name do you rudely display a  rifle? This will be interesting to be sure!
 
This stuff happens in Austin and Dallas I'm sure, but they are suburbs of San Francisco. Not really Texas anymore.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2013, 05:45:55 AM »
Do little research on "the rest of the story" before you waste your 2nd amendment empathy on this guy.
He's a full blown kook, liar, agitator and Mormon cultist! ;) 
Ft. Hood must be a magnet for mental cases

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 05:52:00 AM »
Shameful. 
 
Obviously the Temple officer "doesn't care what the law is" either.  Somebody should explain to him that citizens have no legal obligation to "cooperate" (submit to unreasonable search and seizure) with the police if they are not breaking the law.

In Tx if an Officer asks for your weapon and you are a legal CCL licensee......you have to tern the weapon over.  I'm not sure about the long gun.

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2013, 06:04:14 AM »
When young but old enough to understand my dad told me don't argue with a cop , comply unless it would hurt you to do so. Be nice and respectful. Then if he is out of line tell the judge. The judge is the one who is there to state your case to.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2013, 06:09:43 AM »
When young but old enough to understand my dad told me don't argue with a cop , comply unless it would hurt you to do so. Be nice and respectful. Then if he is out of line tell the judge. The judge is the one who is there to state your case to.

You aren't going to win an arguement with a COP, but may go to jail.......I agree with you 100%.

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2013, 07:35:30 AM »
Do little research on "the rest of the story" before you waste your 2nd amendment empathy on this guy.
He's a full blown kook, liar, agitator and Mormon cultist! ;) 
Ft. Hood must be a magnet for mental cases

I cannot find any info about "the rest of the story" and him being a nut job.  Would you post a link please?

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2013, 07:52:24 AM »
I don't quibble with momentarily handing the gun over at the request of the LEO; but I do quibble with the officer's justification.  It sounds like a personal or political vendetta.
  If we are getting the full story, the cop was evidently stepping out of bounds and as this climbs through the courts, I suspect it may be tossed out.  Then I hope, the LEO will get a basic lesson in professional courtesy and decorum... and perhaps a bit of financial cost in a fine or even job loss.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2013, 10:30:54 AM »
Seems there may be bad blood between the reporter and Grisham. Might be how police happened to find Grisham in their radar. Hmmmm! This is another one that will just have to shake out.
 
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2013, 11:43:34 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2013, 12:01:27 PM »
So what if Grisham was a horses butt?  I support his constitutional rights. I really like Yon's last line, if you want to hear more stories, Send more money.
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2013, 04:40:26 AM »
When young but old enough to understand my dad told me don't argue with a cop , comply unless it would hurt you to do so. Be nice and respectful. Then if he is out of line tell the judge. The judge is the one who is there to state your case to.

You aren't going to win an arguement with a COP, but may go to jail.......I agree with you 100%.


Looked to me like the guy was doing his best to antagonize the Leo's to arrest him.
He is an CCL holder. The A.R. was not concealed ;) I don't believe in Sting operations and in this case, I think it's this man and his Son doing the Sting.



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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2013, 05:31:54 AM »
In Tidewater Va. there was a gentlemen in the 90s who would carry his weapon unconcealed and go into malls.  The police would come and arrest him.  He would sue for violations of his rights.  Apparently they settle out of court and the gentlemen agreed to keep out of malls.
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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2013, 03:14:09 PM »
Frankly Twoblocked;
  I don't get the point of your link..  it appears some blogger named Yon may have a grudge against M/Sgt Grisham.  That's nothing new, grudges develop all the time and it is often difficult to puzzle out...down to it's origins.  We do know the following however

A) Evidently he earned a bronze star
 
B) He remains a M/Sgt..  Normally a total boob can't get there, say nothing about stay there.
 
C) He was cleared for a "top secret"  security clearance, and apparently still carries it.
 
  I don't of course, know all the details, but both the stripes and the clearance would normally fly away if he were truly convicted of some sort of ponzy scheme, or if he were a loose cannon.
  The blogger did some CYA, labelling the piece as "facts, OPINION and analysis"..  (I put the emphasis where I think it belongs) ;) 
   
With just these items in his favor, I wouldn't present some bloggers possible grudge rant as the end-all, be-all truth.
 
  BTW:
      What is the significance of Cpl Tillman & L/Cpl Lynch being in the story?
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2013, 03:37:47 PM »
 The A.R. was not concealed

The AR is a long gun and is not to be concealed,