Author Topic: 8th grader suspended from school & arrested over NRA T-shirt (Read 872 times)

Brett · « **on:** April 21, 2013, 02:23:23 AM »

When 8th grade Jared Marcum got dressed for school on Thursday he says he had no idea that his pro-Second Amendment shirt would initiate what he calls a fight over his First Amendment rights.
"I never thought it would go this far because honestly I don't see a problem with this, there shouldn't be a problem with this," Jared said.
It was the image of a gun printed on Jared's t-shirt that sparked a dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the by CouponDropDown">education process, on his otherwise spotless record.

Link to full article:

http://www.wowktv.com/story/22020264/8th-grade-student-arrested-over-gun-t-shirt-jared-marcum-wv-logan

spruce · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2013, 02:46:39 AM »

Stories like this should make it clear to people that the attack is not just on 2nd Amendment rights, but ALL of the Constitutional rights.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2013, 03:23:28 AM »

there's some serious nuttitude out there. Is it my imagination, or are middle school teaching in particular, kind of wacky?

blind ear · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2013, 03:59:05 AM »

Most mental training that will stick with children for life is done by 9 years of age, morals and basic beliefs. As the children get older tactics turn to peer pressure and fear pressure. The pressure changes from internal to external. From indoctrination to incarceration.

DDZ · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2013, 05:01:59 AM »

Quote from: blind ear on April 21, 2013, 03:59:05 AM

Most mental training that will stick with children for life is done by 9 years of age, morals and basic beliefs. As the children get older tactics turn to peer pressure and fear pressure. The pressure changes from internal to external. From indoctrination to incarceration.

Thats correct, and those basic beliefs that are being taught are soaked with liberalism. The whole idea of the "Guns are bad" teaching is, for when these kids become adults, and government says guns are bad, guns are the reason for crime and murder, we have to rid society of them. These pre indoctrinated people will be much more willing to say "good idea lets rid ourselves of these bad guns"
Really I don't think it has as much to do with stupidity, but more to do with a plan, and we continue to be happy that government has infiltrated our schools by stealing our money, and then pretending to do good with it by so called educating our children. Along with government money, their ideas on how to mold us into subjects are injected.

BBF · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2013, 05:09:45 AM »

As worrisome as the teacher appears I'm baffled that the police even arrested him, presuming that there were no threats or violence involved.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2013, 11:20:20 AM »

I posted earlier , or tried to and it went st8 to "forbidden" land.(whats up with that)

Whats up with middle school teachers and t shirts, this isn't the first time I have seen where a youngster was singled out for having a rifle on his shirt. Che Guevara, or hugo chavez is OK but not a rifle. Wonder if hammer and cycles, or alla and infidels are allowed. These Teachers seem to be making themselves expendable as far a needing them to teach our kids is concerned.

I would like to learn more about exactly what went on there!

KIMBER45 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2013, 01:12:53 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on April 21, 2013, 11:20:20 AM

I posted earlier , or tried to and it went st8 to "forbidden" land.(whats up with that)

Whats up with middle school teachers and t shirts, this isn't the first time I have seen where a youngster was singled out for having a rifle on his shirt. Che Guevara, or hugo chavez is OK but not a rifle. Wonder if hammer and cycles, or alla and infidels are allowed. These Teachers seem to be making themselves expendable as far a needing them to teach our kids is concerned.

I would like to learn more about exactly what went on there!

NOT THE TEACHERS- SCHOOL POLICY SET BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. If you are going to blame someone, blame the correct source.

Ranger99 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2013, 01:24:33 PM »

the link i saw said shirts with profanity,
violent, or discriminatory images were
prohibited. i've never seen an nra t-shirt
with any of that on it.
school and teacher are completely in the
wrong here. i guess they ought to sue.
it's seems like that the thing to do in
this day and age.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2013, 01:51:15 PM »

Is anyone really suprized...

Some people have allowed GOD to be removed from our schools and allowed teaching that homosexuality and abortion are OK there isn't much I would be suprized to see happen.

CW

powderman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2013, 02:13:30 PM »

Quote from: cwlongshot on April 21, 2013, 01:51:15 PM

Is anyone really suprized...

Some people have allowed GOD to be removed from our schools and allowed teaching that homosexuality and abortion are OK there isn't much I would be suprized to see happen.

CW

CW. AMEN brother. We can thank liberals forthe stupidity that abounds. POWDERMAN.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2013, 03:22:44 PM »

Quote from: KIMBER45 on April 21, 2013, 01:12:53 PM

Quote from: Oldshooter on April 21, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
I posted earlier , or tried to and it went st8 to "forbidden" land.(whats up with that)

Whats up with middle school teachers and t shirts, this isn't the first time I have seen where a youngster was singled out for having a rifle on his shirt. Che Guevara, or hugo chavez is OK but not a rifle. Wonder if hammer and cycles, or alla and infidels are allowed. These Teachers seem to be making themselves expendable as far a needing them to teach our kids is concerned.

I would like to learn more about exactly what went on there!
NOT THE TEACHERS- SCHOOL POLICY SET BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. If you are going to blame someone, blame the correct source.

Well oh enlightened one. I raised more KIds than you got guns. This aint my first BBQ. It starts with a teacher and has in the past. Did ya read the part where the parent said he found no restriction on a rifle being on a shirt. The Teacher and the school board seem to have a problem with The NRA. Do You? You seem to pick out my post to correct. Did ya see the part where I said I want to see more about this. What was it? Did the Che Guevara, or hugo chavez thing get your goat!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2013, 04:51:08 PM »

that is discrimination

KIMBER45 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2013, 11:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on April 21, 2013, 03:22:44 PM

Quote from: KIMBER45 on April 21, 2013, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: Oldshooter on April 21, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
I posted earlier , or tried to and it went st8 to "forbidden" land.(whats up with that)

Whats up with middle school teachers and t shirts, this isn't the first time I have seen where a youngster was singled out for having a rifle on his shirt. Che Guevara, or hugo chavez is OK but not a rifle. Wonder if hammer and cycles, or alla and infidels are allowed. These Teachers seem to be making themselves expendable as far a needing them to teach our kids is concerned.

I would like to learn more about exactly what went on there!
NOT THE TEACHERS- SCHOOL POLICY SET BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. If you are going to blame someone, blame the correct source.

Well oh enlightened one. I raised more KIds than you got guns. This explains ur reference to goats. said he found no restriction on a rifle being on a shirt. The Teacher and the school board seem to have a problem with The NRA. Do You? You seem to pick out my post to correct. Did ya see the part where I said I want to see more about this. What was it? Did the Che Guevara, or hugo chavez thing get your goat!

NEEAAHHH

powderman · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2013, 03:10:03 PM »

West Virginia teen arrested over NRA shirt returns to class Published April 22, 2013
Associated Press CHARLESTON, W.Va. – A West Virginia teenager returned to class Monday wearing the same National Rifle Association T-shirt that led to his suspension and arrest after he refused a teacher's order last week to remove it.
Other students across Logan County wore similar shirts, which display the NRA logo and a hunting rifle, to school in a show of support for 14-year-old Jared Marcum, said his lawyer Ben White.
White said school officials told him on Monday that Marcum's one-day suspension was appropriate because the Logan Middle School eighth-grader was being disruptive. White disputed that position, saying Marcum was exercising his free speech rights and did not disrupt anything.

"Their version is that the suspension was for disrupting the educational process, not the shirt," White said in a telephone interview.
"I don't see how he materially disrupted the educational process," he said.
Logan County Schools Superintendent Wilma Zigmond didn't immediately return a telephone message Monday
Marcum's stepfather, Allen Larieris, said Sunday that the teen was waiting in line in the school cafeteria last Thursday when a teacher ordered him to remove the T-shirt or turn it inside out.

White said Marcum was expressing his support for the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms by wearing the shirt, which he said did not violate the school's dress code.
"We at this point believe that Jared acted as mature as a 14-year-old child can act with the pressure that was put on him," White said.
Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited.

Logan police arrested Marcum, 14, after he was sent to the school office and again refused to remove the shirt. Marcum has said that he was arrested on charges of disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, though White said Monday that the Logan County prosecutor's office is reviewing the case to decide whether to proceed.
The Associated Press typically does not identify juveniles who face criminal charges, but Marcum and his family wanted his name and case known.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/22/west-virginia-teen-arrested-over-nra-shirt-returns-to-class/?test=latestnews#ixzz2RFD4BLdL

45-70.gov · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2013, 05:52:42 AM »

sounds like the teacher is the one being disruptive

BBF · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2013, 06:09:22 AM »

That the school and teacher acted that way is no real surprise to me. That the cops arrested him is very much another story.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2013, 06:10:48 AM »

are both union workers ??

Hairy Chest · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2013, 08:22:24 AM »

Quote from: BBF on April 21, 2013, 05:09:45 AM

As worrisome as the teacher appears I'm baffled that the police even arrested him, presuming that there were no threats or violence involved.

He was arrested by the nanny officer for 'Disruption of the Educational Process.' He should have told the nanny officer the T-shirt needs to stay on. By removing it it would be disrupting his education in the constitution. He can read it and reflect on it when he is at the donut shop.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2013, 08:32:23 AM »

So where is the NRA ? They should speak up.

spruce · « **Reply #20 on:** April 23, 2013, 09:18:49 AM »

This involves his 1st amendment rights, not his 2nd - where's the ACLU? I think we know the answer to that!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #21 on:** April 23, 2013, 09:43:11 AM »

It was a shirt that had their name on it . They should at least issue a statement in support of him.

lgm270 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2013, 09:53:20 AM »

This kind of oppression of white and conservative students has been going on for a long time.

IN California for years kids have been suspended/disciplined for displaying American flag cothing, etc. because it "offended" the Mexicans. A group of Mexican high schoolers actually hauled down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag at Montebello High School in LA County.

In other instances, American kids have been singled out for racially motivated violence by "minorities" for displaying American flags, patriotic sayings... etc.

In Texas, an entire school was scolded for chanting "USA, USA" at a basket ball game. We are being outlawed in our own country by these "people" and the leadership of both political parties is demanding a "path to citizenship" for millions of them so that the rate of white dispossession and ethnic cleansing can be accelerated.

The persecution of this 8th grader is the tip of the ice berg and the shape of things to come.