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Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« on: April 21, 2013, 08:15:21 PM »
Which of these is more representative these days? These are personal reviews of the 336W... which I'm fine with. I'd just think of it like the old Glenfields...

Thing is... the first vid is what I'm afraid of getting.... Time was, even the Glenfields were good... just not a high polish.... Missing Screws and loose parts is a whole different issue, not just a choice to skimp on cosmetics for price.

Since no one has a stock of them locally I'd have to order one (would really like the stainless model) so obviously... don't want to get into the ":send it back and forth routine.

1) The Bad - Tell me if the levers are supposed to be this loose, maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLAjKpbBV6I

2) The Good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoE36_1fg8c

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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 06:29:25 AM »
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FWIW, there have lately been myriad complaints about both blued carbon steel & stainless Model 1895's (.45-70) receiver's failing.
 
All the complaints were about virtually the same thing - cracking under the barrel thread area and/or dropping a section there away (gone).
 
The only way to inspect the area is to remove the forend wood and magazine tube for a look-see.
 
 
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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 05:45:45 PM »
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FWIW, there have lately been myriad complaints about both blued carbon steel & stainless Model 1895's (.45-70) receiver's failing.
 
All the complaints were about virtually the same thing - cracking under the barrel thread area and/or dropping a section there away (gone).
 
The only way to inspect the area is to remove the forend wood and magazine tube for a look-see.
 
 
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Ya know... this really makes me hate the appearance of bean counter / MBA thinking finding it's way into firearms companies. It really, really does. How could they freakin' ruin Marlin... for geezus sake... Marlin's an american institution. :(

If they were doing it right, they'd have been migrating to CNC and making it so every one pops off the line near perfect as possible... and training their QC people so that no sub par gun gets out the door.

Because ya know... more than any other group I can think of... except maybe musicians of all things... gun buyers are generally willing to pay a few more bucks for the quality.

Sorry for venting, it just pisses me off. We keep ruining fine companies.

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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 03:42:49 AM »
Dunno about "we".
Selling out to a larger Mfg seems to be the main road for sloppiness and eventual demise.
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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 04:33:54 PM »
Dunno about "we".
Selling out to a larger Mfg seems to be the main road for sloppiness and eventual demise.

Was speaking generically, as in We = "American Business"... "We" seem to be gutting everything.

Didn't mean "We" you and I per se.

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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 01:42:11 PM »
The "Remlins" that I've seen lately seem better in terms of fit and finish...  They had a bunch of them at Cabela's in Rogers, AR last time I was there to stock up on fly fishing stuff.
That said, they aren't something I'd trade my c.1975 336 for.
The original North Haven, Ct. Marlin could turn out some substandard stuff, too.  I credit them for my ongoing and current reluctance to buy any firearm without seeing it in person and handling it first.  I had a dealer order me in a pair of 1894s in .218 back when that version came out.  Compared to my mid-seventies 336, both of the guns I received were turds with very obvious flaws.  One of them was really bad.  I gave my sister the least turdy of the two, having a gunsmith replace the bent front sight, clean the burrs off the lever and re-blue it, and some other thing that I don't presently recall, prior to giving to her.  My sister had a happy 16th birthday and was proud of her first gun, and still shoots it today, but if I had the opportunity to see those rifles in person before buying, I wouldn't have bought either one of them.  Those shoddy rifles were made under "Kenna Era Marlin's" watch.  I haven't seen a "Remlin" yet that was worse in terms of lack of fit, finish, and attention to detail.
If I didn't already have a 336, those new ones I saw last might be tempting, but I wouldn't have the frame of reference that I have through owing mine since I was 11 and shooting the snot out of it for the last 37 years.  Because I do have that frame of reference, if I were shopping for a replacement for some reason, I'd be looking for the cleanest old 50's, 60's or 70's 336 I could find.
Your mileage may vary..... 

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Re: Are the Remlin Marlins Still having Quality Problems?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 02:47:39 PM »
The "Remlins" that I've seen lately seem better in terms of fit and finish...  They had a bunch of them at Cabela's in Rogers, AR last time I was there to stock up on fly fishing stuff.
That said, they aren't something I'd trade my c.1975 336 for.
The original North Haven, Ct. Marlin could turn out some substandard stuff, too.  I credit them for my ongoing and current reluctance to buy any firearm without seeing it in person and handling it first.  I had a dealer order me in a pair of 1894s in .218 back when that version came out.  Compared to my mid-seventies 336, both of the guns I received were turds with very obvious flaws.  One of them was really bad.  I gave my sister the least turdy of the two, having a gunsmith replace the bent front sight, clean the burrs off the lever and re-blue it, and some other thing that I don't presently recall, prior to giving to her.  My sister had a happy 16th birthday and was proud of her first gun, and still shoots it today, but if I had the opportunity to see those rifles in person before buying, I wouldn't have bought either one of them.  Those shoddy rifles were made under "Kenna Era Marlin's" watch.  I haven't seen a "Remlin" yet that was worse in terms of lack of fit, finish, and attention to detail.
If I didn't already have a 336, those new ones I saw last might be tempting, but I wouldn't have the frame of reference that I have through owing mine since I was 11 and shooting the snot out of it for the last 37 years.  Because I do have that frame of reference, if I were shopping for a replacement for some reason, I'd be looking for the cleanest old 50's, 60's or 70's 336 I could find.
Your mileage may vary.....

Last time I personally handled a Marlin lever gun was in the 80's... so my frame of reference is way out of date too.

Marlin was always a go to reccommendation for "good quality at a good price"... That's a shame.