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Offline bobodu

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New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« on: April 23, 2013, 02:10:06 PM »
Bought an OLD (1935) South Bend lathe last Christmas Day and seem to have become a cannon maker. I have sold a couple of these, but have given many more to Veterans and other guys I admire. The little ones have a 12 inch barrel with 1/2" bore. The bigger one is 19" and a 3/4" bore





Here's a video of the bigger one...

http://youtu.be/TAgS7e7hSP8


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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 06:45:40 AM »
bobodu, Welcome to the forum.... yes cannons can sometimes become a obsession...... not a bad thing.... just wait to the bug hits you for something bigger! your cannons look good! how are you attaching the trunnions?
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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 07:16:32 AM »
I am a vet, can I have one?!  ;)

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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 10:35:58 AM »
The trunnions are 3/4" bolts threaded in, butted together and then the bore is drilled out again.. Since the bore is 1/2" there is metal all around it and when fired, the ends flare.

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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 11:18:47 AM »
The trunnions are 3/4" bolts threaded in, butted together and then the bore is drilled out again.. Since the bore is 1/2" there is metal all around it and when fired, the ends flare.

"the ends flare"
What does that mean?
Are you saying that the trunnion holes go all the way into the bore?
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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 12:27:08 PM »
The trunnions are 3/4" bolts threaded in, butted together and then the bore is drilled out again.. Since the bore is 1/2" there is metal all around it and when fired, the ends flare.

While this is acceptable for non-firing models, it leaves places where corrosion products will collect and which are difficult to clean.  This will ultimately compromise the safety of the barrel.
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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 12:55:55 PM »
Yes....the bolts go into the bore, then are drilled out. Since these are salute cannon only....do you think there would be a safety issue? There is a full 3/4" depth of thread on each trunnion. I know nipples have much less working under higher pressures.

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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 02:50:03 PM »
I am not particularly concerned that the bolts would blow out but the combustion products will work their way into the various gaps in the threads and between the parts and cause corrosion since the can't be cleaned out except by disassembling the parts.
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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 03:26:43 PM »
Yes....the bolts go into the bore, then are drilled out. Since these are salute cannon only....do you think there would be a safety issue?

Blanks work because  they have pressure.  Like George say debris and fouling can and will build up in the thread and start corrosion which will grow and slowly weaken the trunnion.  I think if you have a failure with these guns you are more likely to sheer a trunnion off than have a blow out.  But a blow out is possible.  I don't think the barrel will burst but it could.  Most cannon accidents we hear about is from blanks.

Go to the stickys at the top of the forum and look for the Safe loads and construction post.  In there is a link to the  N-SSA and their instructions on making barrel liners.  Get some extruded seamless tubing, not welded seam and make barrel liners.  The don't have tbe the the big heavy liners that  N-SSA call for.  Thin with proper breech plugs as explained in the N-SSA guidelines will work.

Bore your barrels out and glue in the liners. 

Even better as small as your gun are you might be able to make you own liners from solid stock by drilling them out.  This would give you a solid liner and do away with the fuss of installing a breech plug


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Re: New cannon guy....with PICTURES!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 12:02:45 AM »
Gotcha....and thanks Guys.