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We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« on: April 28, 2013, 09:20:48 AM »
  Not only did we not have to return Obama to office, had enough conservatives gotten off their duffs and helped, we may very well have had Obamacare repealed by now, and avoided all the Obama-damage done since then. 
    The Obamunists have enacted several thousand anti-American,  anti-business laws since the election.. had every eligible person voted, theose laws would likely not even exist ! 
      Note:  the second paragraph.....
 
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 09:34:02 AM »
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The 2012 data suggest Romney was a particularly weak GOP candidate, unable to motivate white voters let alone attract significant black or Latino support.

OH i dunno! romney would have been a great democratic candidate. he supported gun laws and he invented barry care in Mass. Id have figgered a lot of black and latinos wudda liked him. Guess they voted for the democrat they knew!
 
Geez Romney didn't even win the state he Governed! all that being said. Romney was not even my fourth choice, but I wudda voted for Howdy doodie before barry!
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 09:43:45 AM »
I do hope that some day people will outgrow the need to "vote by skin color"..but judging by the past, I don't see the brain dead contingent in some groups doing that anywhere in the future.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 09:51:10 AM »
I do hope that some day people will outgrow the need to "vote by skin color"..but judging by the past, I don't see the brain dead contingent in some groups doing that anywhere in the future.

Once again, I dunno(gonna have to quit sayn that) If white people wouldn't have voted for barry he would be a neiborhood organiser again now. I keep telling black people that and they tilt their heads at me like a confused dog. They actually think they elected barry.  ::)  and they say discrimmination still exists. Dumbass does for sure!
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 10:13:47 AM »
 Oldshooter;
        You are right of course,  Soros, Ayres and Cloward-Piven sure knew how to make the politically-correct, LIV crowd.. do their bidding..
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 10:42:01 AM »
Too bad people can not listen to what the candidates say.  They have these preconcieved ideas and no matter what is said they are not listening.

Romney said what was right for Mass, was not right for the country, but people were not listening.  Romney promised to over turn Obama Care if elected, no one listened.

Romney said he supported the second ammendment, but people were not listening.

Romney was a proven builder, but the did people listened to the Democrates when they said he did not build that, and believed it.

Then so many people could not get over the fact that he was Mormon, even tho he said he would not let his religion interfer with being president.  Many people kept their religiously prejudiced selfs home and did not vote.  They had rather have a totally incompatant, son of a Communist, and a Islamist sympathizer in office than a Morman.  Someone who is doing his best to bring this country down to a third world nation.  I agree totally with Bobby Jendel.
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 11:04:49 AM »
You got it Sourdough!
 
So many people stayed home and didn't vote because Romney wasn't conservative enough (100 times more conservative than Obummer), Romney was a Mormon (a Muslim sympathizer is better?), Romney wasn't experienced enough in foreign affairs (a community organizer is more experienced?), Romney once said he didn't see any need for assault rifles (his opponent wants to ban ALL guns, the democrats said Romney was going to cut medicare and the LIV's believed it (Obamacare guts medicare and replaces benefits with "death panels"), etc, etc.
 
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 11:43:40 AM »
You fellas are aware that the Continental Congress took away the right of the American people to elect the President by popular vote in the late 1700's, right?
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 12:08:40 PM »
You got it Sourdough!
 
So many people stayed home and didn't vote because Romney wasn't conservative enough (100 times more conservative than Obummer), Romney was a Mormon (a Muslim sympathizer is better?), Romney wasn't experienced enough in foreign affairs (a community organizer is more experienced?), Romney once said he didn't see any need for assault rifles (his opponent wants to ban ALL guns, the democrats said Romney was going to cut medicare and the LIV's believed it (Obamacare guts medicare and replaces benefits with "death panels"), etc, etc.
 
First thing I ask someone if they start complaining about the government is "Did you vote"?  If they say no, I tell them to shut up!
I agree on all points.
One observation, though.  There's so many dead people who DID vote dummycrat, or live ones who voted 6 X  for barry it's amazing.  How many electronic voting machines were hacked and rigged for barry?  So, the question is: Dis we  really loose?  Remember 1960?
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 06:56:13 AM »
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 07:54:31 AM »
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Normally I just ignore your leftist trolling remarks but this one is interesting. No I didn't vote for barry, neither did a lot of people here, The sad thing is that "WE" all lost when barry was elected. Some of us just knew it was coming and tried to avoid what was going to happen. Some really dont have a clue how much they are going to lose. BTW what firearms do you own?
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 08:54:37 AM »
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Normally I just ignore your leftist trolling remarks but this one is interesting. No I didn't vote for barry, neither did a lot of people here, The sad thing is that "WE" all lost when barry was elected. Some of us just knew it was coming and tried to avoid what was going to happen. Some really dont have a clue how much they are going to lose. BTW what firearms do you own?
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 .... And why is he so eager to lose them that he votes for gun-grabber Democ-rats ?
  You're right Oldshooter; we are ALL losers with Barry & the Chicago mob in place.  Many of us knew that before he ran back in 2008, others learned it when they saw the damage he did to the country and constitution in his first term..
      Yet others..still don't "get it"!
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 08:55:38 AM »
Learned a long time ago not to pay attention to what politicians SAY.
Pay attention to what they DO!

That's why Romney couldn't win......too many of us paid attention to what he did/does. His record went before him.
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 09:00:55 AM »
Learned a long time ago not to pay attention to what politicians SAY.
Pay attention to what they DO!

That's why Romney couldn't win......too many of us paid attention to what he did/does. His record went before him.
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  So Obama was the better choice ?
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 09:08:16 AM »
most people don't realize the lesser of 2 evils
IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN


others stayed home and pouted


get involved in the primaries  and maybe it won't be the lesser game for a change
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 09:21:49 AM »
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Normally I just ignore your leftist trolling remarks but this one is interesting. No I didn't vote for barry, neither did a lot of people here, The sad thing is that "WE" all lost when barry was elected. Some of us just knew it was coming and tried to avoid what was going to happen. Some really dont have a clue how much they are going to lose. BTW what firearms do you own?
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 .... And why is he so eager to lose them that he votes for gun-grabber Democ-rats ?
  You're right Oldshooter; we are ALL losers with Barry & the Chicago mob in place.  Many of us knew that before he ran back in 2008, others learned it when they saw the damage he did to the country and constitution in his first term..
      Yet others..still don't "get it"!

Met a man on a train in Tennessee, last fall. We talked a bit. I had a pray for America shirt on. He asked me about my thoughts on the election. I am shy and all but I told him anyway.  ::)  He said his son had voted for barry in 2008 to prove he was not a racist. The guy says he told his son, well dont vote for him this time and prove you're  not stupid!  I bought him Dinner!  ;)
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 01:48:31 PM »
  So Obama was the better choice ?

Nope! He was the same choice.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 02:18:10 PM »
Until the republican party changes their party image, they will continue to lose. They blame everyone but themselves. They are their own worst enemy.
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
Conservatives lol ! Is that anything like Christians that fight among themselves ?
Maybe Obama was once a member here in charge of correcting spelling and grammar .
He would have sure gotten away with that here despite the rules so why not go after the Constitution?


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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 02:12:22 AM »
Learned a long time ago not to pay attention to what politicians SAY.
Pay attention to what they DO!

That's why Romney couldn't win......too many of us paid attention to what he did/does. His record went before him.

Your not supposed to bring those things up during a "pity party". Your only supposed to lamente on how it "could have been" if their "chameleon candidate" had won.

Come on guys. This guy was another John McCain. You blamed the same folks when you supported him, and if you had gotten McCain, we'd have troops in Lybia, and Syria today. Want help? Get a REAL conservative that can remember what he stands fou.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 02:28:44 AM »
My wife showed me an article yesterday about young people doing interviews for jobs.  It said, they dress casual, one girl brought her cat with her, one guy brought his father with him, and almost all of them answered their phones, and did texting while being interviewed.  The people doing the interviews said these young people, not matter how qualified, were scratched off the list because they couldn't pay attention to what was at hand and were not serious about the interview. 
 
In my company, the last three construction workers they hired were all college grads (digging ditches).  About 200 people put in for each of the jobs as they came up.  Drug test was the first thing done, about half either didn't show up, or failed, off the list.  That left about 100, then we did a credit check.  About 75% of the remainder, off the list.  Well, that narrowed it to about 25.  We selected the 5 best, then intervied them.  Yes, they had just graduated college, two were married.  All had previous work experience from high school through college doing various jobs, and all had at least one job in some type of construction.  One of the guys finally got a promotion when a job came up.  Company uses these guys a few years in construction and when supervisor jobs or technical or skilled jobs come open, they are promoted up. 
 
10 years ago, these construction jobs were given to high school grads who passed our test.  50 years ago, they were given to anyone who was willing to work, reguardless of their education.  For the spell checkers, I am at work this morning, and the spell check doesn't work for some reason on my computer, so I appologise to the spelling police. 
 
I said this to say, that the stupid ones who text, etc, are the ones who voted for Obama.  The article said they were too coddled growing up, and were too dependent on their parents and never developed a social or work ethic.  Texting isn't socialising.  Oh, and my company prefers people with a military background, because they are more diciplined in their work ethic. 

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 02:53:16 AM »
Until the republican party changes their party image, they will continue to lose. They blame everyone but themselves. They are their own worst enemy.
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  Are we to conclude that "image" requires;

  A) Letting millions of illegal immigrants cut in line in front of  other immigrants from Poland, Russia, Thailand, Germany etc
 
 B) Taxing working people to death so they can buy the votes of loe information voters.
 
 C) Calling in illegals by offering free food stamps and medical care if they just "jump the fence".
 
  D) Maintain the pace of killing 1,500,000 pre-born boys & girls per year.
 
 E) Keep coddling the perverts, preferring their "rights" over those of normal people.
 
 F) Sacrifice people such as those ain the consulate in Benghazi.
 
  G) Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 
 H) Add thousands of new "regulations" each year, which are designed to cripple business.
 
 I) Refuse to recognize who is trying to destroy us (hint: radical mooslims).
 
 J) Continue to add repressive rules upon the general citizenry..using all kinds of excuses from environment to socialism.
 
 K) Buy cheap votes by handing out cell phones bought with money filched from taxpayers.
 
 L) Buy more cheap votes with food stamps.
 
M) Rip off the public with a phony health care system which practically abandons decent care.
 
       
 ....If those kind of indecent acts are required to build "image", no thank you... some of us have too many scruples!
Of course, I wouldn't presume to speak as a Republican..some of them atre ready to cave in to some of those very indecencies!  That's why I am not a Republican...
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2013, 03:01:39 AM »
DD, While all you say is true, I personally know folks in their 70s & early 80s that have lived a Christian Conservative life that voted Obama. They said they thought they would get something better than what the Regurgitateing party kept promising but, never delivered.
The people complaining here, don't get it anymore than these elderly folks I speak of. Replacing one "liar in chief" with another under a different banner is not a solution.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2013, 03:07:24 AM »
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.

I'll continue the pity party, You democrats (that have firearms::)  , if your "friends"
would have had their way last week, you couldn't even have lent your shotgun to a buddy to go duck hunting without incurring at least three felonies. depending on when and where you lent it to him.  and where he went with it.
 
WE ALL LOST and will continue to lose!  Such is the Pity!
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2013, 03:18:50 AM »
most people don't realize the lesser of 2 evils
IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN


others stayed home and pouted


get involved in the primaries  and maybe it won't be the lesser game for a change

The election is over and the losers seem to be still poutin.
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2013, 03:31:27 AM »
I have no doubt that everyone will continue doin the same thing and blame someone else for the failure.
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2013, 03:49:27 AM »
LOL The ghost of the lesser of two evils thread.
 
Even after two losses in a row to a Socialist it looks like the "real conservatives" still haven't learned that their "hold your nose and vote for the liberal pretending to be a conservative" strategy doesn't work. They'd rather play the blame game.
 
I'm going to make a bold prediction for 2016 - the exact same thing that happened in '08 and '12 will happen again.
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2013, 04:03:15 AM »
Until the republican party changes their party image, they will continue to lose. They blame everyone but themselves. They are their own worst enemy.
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  Are we to conclude that "image" requires;

  A) Letting millions of illegal immigrants cut in line in front of  other immigrants from Poland, Russia, Thailand, Germany etc
 
 B) Taxing working people to death so they can buy the votes of loe information voters.
 
 C) Calling in illegals by offering free food stamps and medical care if they just "jump the fence".
 
  D) Maintain the pace of killing 1,500,000 pre-born boys & girls per year.
 
 E) Keep coddling the perverts, preferring their "rights" over those of normal people.
 
 F) Sacrifice people such as those ain the consulate in Benghazi.
 
  G) Continue to keep pressing to disarm the American people.
 
 H) Add thousands of new "regulations" each year, which are designed to cripple business.
 
 I) Refuse to recognize who is trying to destroy us (hint: radical mooslims).
 
 J) Continue to add repressive rules upon the general citizenry..using all kinds of excuses from environment to socialism.
 
 K) Buy cheap votes by handing out cell phones bought with money filched from taxpayers.
 
 L) Buy more cheap votes with food stamps.
 
M) Rip off the public with a phony health care system which practically abandons decent care.
 
       
 ....If those kind of indecent acts are required to build "image", no thank you... some of us have too many scruples!
Of course, I wouldn't presume to speak as a Republican..some of them atre ready to cave in to some of those very indecencies!  That's why I am not a Republican...


wow! which one of these don't people understand?


IMO...barry deliberately mislead his constituency by leading them to believe that the AHCA would be "Free medical care" or it will be "paid for by the rich and businesses"...his constituencies are the ones who feel a need to be catered to for some reason or another. he led the poor to believe "I'm going to take from the rich, and give to the poor..."


have you checked your health insurance premiums lately? are they more AFFORDABLE now? from what i've been seeing and hearing...NO! they're actually going up!


IF, every AMERICAN CITIZEN received the same medical care members of congress gets, then, maybe, then, it might be worth the effort...but how likely is that?


IMO...the AHCA is a scam to raise money! and barry is a phony and should NOT be where he is now...proof? just sit back and read about what he's accomplished since being "elected"...NOTHING...but tax increases and taking vacations, to the tune of over 20 million taxpayer dollars, throwing extravagant parties at the taxpayers expenses.


this, so-called "President" has done more to divide America than any president in recent history...he should be impeached, IMO.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2013, 04:10:42 AM »
Until you named Obama I wasn't sure which party you were talkin about.
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Re: We didn't HAVE to have Obama in 2012..
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2013, 10:58:53 AM »
Until you named Obama I wasn't sure which party you were talkin about.

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