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35 Whelen
« on: April 29, 2013, 08:22:01 AM »
I finally got a good one! All 5 shots went bang the very first time today when I did a test fire. 55gr of RL15 put the last three 200gr FTXs into 1 1/4" at 85yds. The recoil wasn't as bad either with the 200gr bullet compared to the 225s I have shot in the past.

I plan to load about 10 more for confirmation of zero and then it will get a rim counterbore cut for shooting reformed 7x65R brass. ;)

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 09:56:36 AM »
Dinny, being new to the forum I don't the history behind your gun?  I got mine for my birthday a few years back.  Wanted one ever since the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Limited Edition came out.  As soon as I saw them available I was lobbying my wife for it.  This year it was a 100 + year old side by side Sexton. I am truly blessed
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 02:45:51 PM »
Let's get some pics of that Sexton. ;)
 
 
 
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 02:54:14 PM »
I had an older Whelen barrel a while back that had 60% FTFs. Some here speculated it was my novice reloading and that they could reload it to shoot just fine. I sold it. This newer barrel has no issues, it likes my reloads just fine.

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 03:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Spanky on April 29, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
Let's get some pics of that Sexton. ;)
 
 
 
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 03:30:29 PM »
 Nice Sexton! I hope I look that good when I'm 100.  :D

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 03:42:26 PM »
the last bday was half way there  have not had a chance to shot her yet but did get 2 cases of 2 1/2 in shells
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 04:58:39 AM »
I keep reading about the headspace problems with the Whelen... Never had one with my two, but I figure that H&R must have sorted out the problem because they are still selling Whelen's in a couple configurations... If they were getting an abnormal number of them back, they wouldn't risk the marginal profit in the Whelen sales.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 05:07:28 AM »
I have two factory H&R 35 Whelens, an RMEF and a 2006 Handi, never had a problem with either as far as headspace, but have had a box of Remington factory brass that had the shoulder pushed back too far on part of it, I formed a false shoulder on them and fireformed them to work just fine in the RMEF, so for a handloader, there's always a work around, not so for the factory ammo shooter.  :-\ I strongly suspect a lot of the problems are caused by bad brass in factory ammo.

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 10:04:25 AM »
I got one back when they were making the RMEF guns.  When I first got it I had some FTF and FTEject issues.  Sent it back to the factory, they fixed it.  They also did a trigger job.  Have had no issues since.  It shoots great.  My Dad killed a Moose with it, one shot.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 01:32:39 PM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on April 30, 2013, 05:07:28 AM
I have two factory H&R 35 Whelens, an RMEF and a 2006 Handi, never had a problem with either as far as headspace, but have had a box of Remington factory brass that had the shoulder pushed back too far on part of it, I formed a false shoulder on them and fireformed them to work just fine in the RMEF, so for a handloader, there's always a work around, not so for the factory ammo shooter.  :-\ I strongly suspect a lot of the problems are caused by bad brass in factory ammo.

Tim
yep we have 3 and I know of several more that has no faults....and all of us are premium handloaders from hell !!
and can handle much larger prollums if need be.............. ;D
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 02:08:15 PM »
OK guys you got me what's a RMEF gun?

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 02:09:37 PM »
Quote from: geezerbiker on April 30, 2013, 02:08:15 PM
OK guys you got me what's a RMEF gun?

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 02:24:42 PM »
I have never had a problem with mine.  I do know there were alot with the 400's.  Problem being the depth and angle of the shoulder.

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 09:17:34 AM »
Glad this one is working out for you.  I got one a year or so ago through the accessory program and it is a very good barrel.  I've only shot handloads through it...actually Varget pushing 200grain hornady FTX.  It's an honest 3/4" barrel at 100yds with this combo.  Took a nice MS whitetail with her this past season.   
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2013, 07:48:46 PM »
Haven't started to reload yet, it's on the list. But I paired mine up with a new 25-06 barrel this spring.  Even with available factory loads the combo is good for any med to large game in North America.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 05:27:28 AM »
I'd like to have a 26" barreled 35Whelen!


on my two, to check HS when I first got them, I dropped 270 factory loads in them, and they fired fine.

I have some 35W factory loads now to try, but haven't been able to get the time.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 05:35:08 AM »
Quote from: nanuk-O-dah-Nort on May 03, 2013, 05:27:28 AM
I'd like to have a 26" barreled 35Whelen!


They're out there, but being made only for one year, not many and they bring a good price, mine was $350 8yrs ago.

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 05:42:32 AM »
I picked up a barrel on trade several years ago was going to start working up loads  UNTIL < I read the 55gr. part.
it wouldn't take long to eat up my powder reserve with that and the 500 s&w.
 
I did get my hands on 6000 magnum rifle primers though.  What other powders that might fill the need for the whelen?
 
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 05:48:41 AM »
RL15 works good, Alliant PP 2000MR is supposed to work good, although I haven't tried it yet.

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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2013, 12:38:44 PM »
ours like imr-4895 with there fav bullet and recipe........ 8)
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2013, 05:01:07 PM »
My preferred Whelen powders are H4895 and Varget. I use the 180 SSP's for soft range loads and 200 FTX, 225 AB and 250 SP-RP for full loads.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2013, 07:21:25 AM »
Quote from: casca1 on May 03, 2013, 05:42:32 AM
I picked up a barrel on trade several years ago was going to start working up loads  UNTIL < I read the 55gr. part.
it wouldn't take long to eat up my powder reserve with that and the 500 s&w.
 
I did get my hands on 6000 magnum rifle primers though.  What other powders that might fill the need for the whelen?
 
thanx
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Start at 10grains of Unique and work your way up???
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2013, 01:45:31 PM »
A 35 Whelen loaded to .356 Win. or .358 Win. ballistics will be just fine for most needs, and a lighter cast bullet load even more so. Just because its a big case, or a big engine, doesnt mean your foot has to be in it ALL the time.
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Re: 35 Whelen
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2013, 11:12:35 AM »
gcrank is right about the lower velocity loads in a Whelen.  I have a Whelen in a Pro Hunter.  Even with the recoil absorbing stock a full power load can be rough after a while.  I have substantial back and neck issues with a lot of hardware holding things together.  I can shoot the full power loads, but only if I have to.  Recoil is pain.  I am experimenting with loads to push a 200 grain bullet around 2500 fps or so.  There isn't much this will not kill and they sure are nicer to shoot.  Just have to find the right amount of the right powder. 
 
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