Author Topic: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...  (Read 621 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

TM7

  • Guest
Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« on: April 30, 2013, 05:30:52 AM »
fyi.......Ron Paul explains Boston Bombing from a libertarian view...which makes sense...TM7
.
.
Ron Paul slams Boston bombing response
Get short URL                                       
Published time: April 29, 2013 20:43                                       Ron Paul. (AFP Photo / Mladen Antonov)    TagsCrime, Politics, Terrorism, USA, Blast, Police, Security
.
        Ron Paul compared the manhunt for the perpetrators of the Boston Marathon attack to “scenes from a military coup in a far off banana republic”. He says the response to the attack was more frightening than the bombing itself.
The deadly blasts killed three people, injured more than 200 and caused 16 victims to undergo limb amputations. Paul says the Boston Marathon bombing was tragic, but that law enforcement’s response was even more terrifying and unprecedented.
In an op-ed published on the website of libertarian editor Lew Rockwell, Paul describes the police response as a “military-style takeover of parts of Boston” – a procedure that resembled martial law.
“Forced lockdown of a city,” he writes. “Militarized police riding tanks in the streets. Door-to-door armed searches without warrant. Families thrown out of their homes at gunpoint to be searched without probable cause. Businesses forced to close. Transport shut down.”
<br>
The former congressman believes that the Boston bombing should have resulted in a police investigation, not a military-style occupation that infringed upon the civil liberties of those living in or near Boston.  Residents in Watertown, Mass. – the site where the surviving suspect was found – were told to stay indoors for most of April 19 while authorities pursued Dzhokar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev. After the elder brother was killed and Dzhokhar escaped, residents were ordered to remain inside as the manhunt progressed.
While the media hails the capture of the remaining suspect as an American victory, the police tactics have become largely ignored, Paul says. The libertarian believes that because of the media’s depiction of surveillance methods as a reason for the capture, Congress will be able to justify installing “more government cameras pointed at the rest of us.”
But in the end, the capture was largely due to the help of private citizens who contributed their photographs to the FBI and one man who discovered the injured suspect hiding in a boat. The surveillance videos posted online by the FBI came from private businesses – not the government.
By believing the government’s job is to keep Americans safe rather than to protect their liberties, US citizens are allowing police investigations to proceed as they did in the aftermath of the Boston Marathon attack. Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick last week defended the response to the bombings, telling reporters that authorities "did what we should have done and were supposed to do with the always-imperfect information that you have at that time."
But by locking down a city, conducting unwarranted searches, forcing Americans to stay in their homes and hailing surveillance as a reason for the capture, the government is overstepping its boundaries, Paul says.
“This is unprecedented and is very dangerous,” he writes. “We must educate ourselves and others about our precious civil liberties to ensure that we never accept demands that we give up our Constitution so that the government can pretend to protect us.”
 

Offline SharonAnne

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1994
  • Gender: Female
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 10:04:42 AM »
it is after all Massachusetts. Is not ted (the chapaquidick kid) kennedy their senior senator.

One more unforgivable step on the slippery slope to a total police state. I do believe it is time for the Free States of America to secede from the Disfunctional Totalitarian States of America.
SharonAnne
Luke 22:36-38

Honor the American Soldier and Sailor, the source of Our Freedom

Really, it only hurts when I breath - SharonAnne

An armed society is a polite society - Robert Heinlein

THE TREE OF LIBERTY MUST BE REFRESHED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS - Thomas Jefferson

Offline ironglow

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (9)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 31302
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 12:07:38 PM »
During the manhunt.. How many civilians were killed, how many wounded and how many had limbs blown off?
 
  Correct me if I am mistaken, but I don't rcall many householders in th eBoston area who didn't want to cooperate in finding the mass murderers..even to inviting police into their homes.  I didn't see ALL the news of course..so there may have been some resistance..
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

Offline nw_hunter

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5204
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 01:58:24 PM »
So you think the Constitution should be ignored and overruled depending on the crime?IMO what Sen. Paul said should be of great concern to anyone that would like to continue to live in a free society. I don't want to wait until people killed or maimed before I protest unwarranted actions.

We have seen how past actions by the Government ......katrina, Waco, Shootings by deranged people and others have had a negative effect on Liberty and protection to innocents. To simply let it go and except it as business as usual will lead to the end of our Republic as we have known it.That seems to work for a lot of folks on the east coast, but for most of us, it does not.

Freedom Of Speech.....Once we lose it, every other freedom will follow.

Offline lakota

  • Trade Count: (26)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3472
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 03:24:46 PM »
Ron Paul is 110% right on. The government's response was more terrifying and troubling than the attack was. And how dissappointing that two little metrosexual looking turds sent an entire city cowering into their homes? I have to say that those two little scumbags looked very intimidating ::)  Oh but I forgot...the well heeled and enlightened liberals of Taxxachusetts have been neutered and probably not many own weapons to defend themselves with. Lets all aspire to be just like them.
Hi NSA! Can you see how many fingers I am holding up?

Offline Doublebass73

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (46)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4579
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 04:46:06 PM »
As usual, Ron is right. Thousands of local police, state police, SWAT and National Guard swarmed the city of Watertown and violated the 4th Amendment by forcing people out of their homes at gunpoint and searching their houses without a warrant. After all that they were unsuccessful at finding the criminal. It took an alert citizen to actually do what these thugs couldn't do.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

Offline spruce

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2248
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 07:20:13 AM »
Troubling to say the least.  Ron is right on this one.
 
Why did they think they had to search all those houses?  If the people were home and said everything was okay then why waste time searching each one?  Not only were they (government) overstepping their bounds, but also showed a gross ineffiency in search tactics.

Offline yellowtail3

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5664
  • Gender: Male
  • Oh father of the four winds, fill my sails!
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 07:35:55 AM »
I like Ron Paul. Those who want to cast him as an extremist, nut-case, racist... can kiss my ---
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

Offline SharonAnne

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1994
  • Gender: Female
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 10:12:14 AM »
of course Ron Paul is an extremist. Anyone who believes the Constitution means what is says is an extremist to the government.  Any government that operates on a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do  principle needs to be disposed of, one way or another.
SharonAnne
Luke 22:36-38

Honor the American Soldier and Sailor, the source of Our Freedom

Really, it only hurts when I breath - SharonAnne

An armed society is a polite society - Robert Heinlein

THE TREE OF LIBERTY MUST BE REFRESHED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF PATRIOTS AND TYRANTS - Thomas Jefferson

Offline Oldshooter

  • GBO subscriber and supporter
  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6426
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2013, 10:32:50 AM »
Lets look at this a minute.
 
The government said this was a crime, not an act of war.
 
In war lock downs and civil rights curtailed may be necessary to prosecute the war. But since it was only a crime they went overboard just to catch perpetrators of a crime didn't they? Amazing to me that the last one was only located after the  lockdown was lifted, and by a citizen! (This is not a judgement of LEO)
 
I agree with Ron Paul, As long as it was just a crime. They over reacted. I figger it was a real disappointment that it weren't overweight right wingers that hated marathons.
“Owning a handgun doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.”

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Offline ironglow

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (9)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 31302
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ron Paul: Boston's Response worse than the Attack...
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 11:32:55 AM »
NW says;
  " So you think the Constitution should be ignored and overruled depending on the crime?"
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
 
   Don't know who you are speaking to, but it must not be me.  I mentioned those who were WILLING to welcome police in their homes to smootrh the investigation.
  As I said in the earlier post...I didn't see ALL the news reports, so there may have been some resistance.   In that case, I don't agree with forced inspections either..
   However, if there are 22 homes on a block and 20 invite authorities in for a look.. that may well simplify the search for the culprits by just a bit and leave a couple to observe a bit closer.
 
  I don't agree with those who say "never assist law enforcement"..  There are high crime neighborhoods and the residents whine at police that they are not being protected.  Then let a driveby shooting or a robbery occur on the sidewalk..and "nobody saw anything".
 
   They don't want to "snitch"..
 
   For those kind of folks, I say this... 
        "If you don't assist efforts to fight crime in your neighborhood...go ahead and live with crime in your neighborhood".
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)