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Offline OldSchoolRanger

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What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« on: May 02, 2013, 06:01:14 PM »
I was browsing the Brownell's web site, and I noticed that in addition to standard RCBS 223 F/L die sets.  They also carry: RCBS AR SERIES DIE SET 223 REM , and the RCBS X-Die Small Base Die Set 223 Rem

I know the X-Die set is a small base die set, but what is the AR series die set?  Are these also small bases dies, if so, what is the difference, and why the difference in price?
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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 07:29:30 AM »
X-dies are not small base sizing dies, they are more of a neck sizer. I would imagine the AR dies are a small base die set to insure cycling.

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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2013, 05:34:16 AM »
X-dies are not small base sizing dies, they are more of a neck sizer. I would imagine the AR dies are a small base die set to insure cycling.
That's what I thought, until I saw the description.  RCBS X-Die Small Base Die Set 223 Rem
 It specifically states: Small Base Die Set.
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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 08:04:36 AM »
Maybe its a special X Die. the X-die I have for my 7mag is not SB. I had to buy that separately. Maybe I'm just not well informed. :)

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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 05:05:10 PM »
A quick call to RCBS will give you the correct answer.

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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 11:40:18 PM »
my guess is it comes with a crimp die.
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Re: What's the difference between these two types of dies?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2013, 04:04:54 AM »
I took geezerbikers advice and gave a call to RCBS. 

I was told that both die sets are small base dies, but the AR series die set has a taper crimp seater.  The X-Die series has a regular seater die, but RCBS claims that you don't have to trim the brass because it has a special sizer die.
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