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Offline HWB13

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1911 firing pins
« on: May 04, 2013, 02:24:29 PM »
I am new to the 1911 world.  I looked over the last 10 pages and found no threads on firing pins.  I know with different materials out there someone must have an opinion on which is the strongest.  I have a new 1911 and it appears to have broken the pin on round 30 of my 100 round break in.  Will be taking it apart tonight to look but i have no tention on the pin and no protrusion at the face.  I am looking for hwat works best.  torn between return and repair.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 02:32:34 PM »
I've never broken a firing pin on a 1911, and I own several that I have shot a LOT. Based on my experience the factory ones have been good enough. If I were replacing one, I'd go with a Brown or Wilson most likely as they produce a quality product. Out of curiosity what make of 1911 is this one?
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 02:33:35 PM »
R1
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 05:40:46 PM »
R1, as in Remington? If so return it for repair. I have over 150,000 rounds through my 1911 Model 70  .45acp without breaking a firing pin.  My Para P18 has 75,000 rounds of 9x23 Winchester without breaking a firing pin. I would return the R1 to the dealer you bought it from.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »
Sounds like it may have been over hardened that can make it brittle or not hardened at all making it soft. Is the old firing pin mushroomed or cracked?
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 02:18:37 PM »
I stopped, I am going to send it back to Remington.  I was going to open it, but I am going to take SharonAnne's advice.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 12:50:26 AM »
I think that is wise. If the firearms shows signs of tampering it will void the guarantee.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 03:17:28 PM »
Well I got it back today.  They ,E-RPC Services, listed two defects. Parts weak- worn- broken- listed and firing pin spring to weak/short.
Parts listed were the extractor, firing pin spring and the firing pin plunger.  The plunger seams odd to me could have been miss keyed.  I'm not as experienced with the 1911's as some of you.  Does that sound right?  Once I finally got the return package it went out on Sat and came back on Thurs.  So it was a good turn around. Everything was covered by warranty, just have to find some range time to get back out and shoot it.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 01:49:54 PM »
Now that makes sense.  If the firing pin plunger (blocks the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled) was bad, it would block the firing pin preventing it from firing at all.  That was probably the culprit in your case.  You would not feel the firing pin protrude in any event as it is too short to reach from the hammer to the breach face.  It is driven forward by the hammer to connect with a cartridge when the trigger is pulled.  Glad you got it back and all is well.  44 Man
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 10:41:35 AM »
The R1 is an 1911 design. It does not have a firing pin plunger. For those who don't understand, it is a Series 70 type, not series 80. Perhaps they were referring to the firing pin stop.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 02:28:18 PM »
Hi SharonAnne, I went right off the repair sheet.  It said plunger.  Remington bills it as a 80.  The diagram in the owners manual lists the part also.

General report:
went to the range this morning and did a 100 rnd reliability test 0 failure to feeds, 0 failures to fire.  groups were a little low on the target at 25 yards.  maybe 4 in from the x ring on a 25 yrd NRA pistol target.  moved point of aim to top of the black and went dead center.  any sugestions seeings there are no adjustments on the basic model.
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Re: 1911 firing pins
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 10:20:01 AM »
I am just going by the picks remington has posted. The firing pin retainer is not cut for series 80.  Remove the slide and look please.
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