Author Topic: Finally got my .585 Hubel Express (Update) (Read 2925 times)

hwhit · « **on:** May 10, 2013, 04:07:08 AM »

Just picked up my new toy .585 Hubel Express build on an SB2 frame it has a 30 inch Pac-Nor barrel. Just have to buy a new press that will handle the 1" dies. Can't wait to try it out should make a good pig gun 650gr bullet at 2400-2500fps is the starting load, don't think I'll go up from there.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2013, 04:13:08 AM »

have you got any pictures?

what is a .585 Hubel Express

45-70.gov · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2013, 04:18:06 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hubel458/.585_Hubel_Express

petemi · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2013, 04:20:53 AM »

Quote from: hwhit on May 10, 2013, 04:07:08 AM

Just picked up my new toy .585 Hubel Express build on an SB2 frame it has a 30 inch Pac-Nor barrel. Just have to buy a new press that will handle the 1" dies. Can't wait to try it out should make a good ~~pig~~ RHINO gun 650gr bullet at 2400-2500fps is the starting load, don't think I'll go up from there.

Somehow I have the feeling that is going to kill on both ends

Pete

bikerbeans · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2013, 05:35:04 AM »

hwhit,

If you decide to shoot this gun off-hand please video and put it on U tube.

I guess a weight of 14 pounds for your gun and with a 650g bullet @ 2500 fps and 180g of powder you have about 125 lb ft of recoil.

Any idea what chamber pressure this cartridge will generate?

BB

YRUpunting? · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2013, 05:50:05 AM »

Quote from: bikerbeans on May 10, 2013, 05:35:04 AM

hwhit,

If you decide to shoot this gun off-hand please video and put it on U tube.

I guess a weight of 14 pounds for your gun and with a 650g bullet @ 2500 fps and 180g of powder you have about 125 lb ft of recoil.

Any idea what chamber pressure this cartridge will generate?

BB

So the recoil is basically double a 10 gauge?

Singlebarrel · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2013, 05:55:41 AM »

Do we post obituaries here?

hwhit · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2013, 07:45:43 AM »

I'm not sure of the pressure of the starting load of 165gr RE25 for 2400 fps, but the max load for a bolt action is a 650 at 2850 and 60k psi. I bought the gun from Ed hubel and he provided load info. Will try to post pics later today.

DCmauser · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2013, 10:34:31 AM »

What kind of "Telescope" does one put on a Hubbell?

hwhit · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2013, 11:34:22 AM »

Here are some pics, .300 mag and .45ACP for comparison.

hwhit · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2013, 11:41:34 AM »

Here are some pics with a 300 Win Mag and 45ACP for comparison.

bikerbeans · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2013, 11:59:07 AM »

Is that a liner barrel inside of a 10ga shotgun barrel on a 10ga SB2 frame?

BB

hwhit · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2013, 12:13:35 PM »

Yes, the barrel is stubbed on to a SB2 10 gauge.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2013, 01:21:20 PM »

If it is like double a 10ga. that should be like shooting both barrels of a 10ga. double at the same time

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An old 12ga. double 2 3/4" doubled on me once and that was ENOUGH, yes sir, quite enough.

HWB13 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2013, 01:46:32 PM »

Quote from: bikerbeans on May 10, 2013, 05:35:04 AM

hwhit,

If you decide to shoot this gun off-hand please video and put it on U tube.

I guess a weight of 14 pounds for your gun and with a 650g bullet @ 2500 fps and 180g of powder you have about 125 lb ft of recoil.

Any idea what chamber pressure this cartridge will generate?

BB

i'd pay to see that video

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2013, 02:01:23 PM »

Ed's 60kpsi load is with a different powder in a 32" bolt gun as shown on Ammoguide and in his long running 12gaFH saga, the RL25 load runs less than 40kpsi at 2333fps in the 30" barrel according to QL. The 60kpsi load would provide almost 19000 lbs breech thrust in the H&R which is waaaay too much for the platform.
I'll stick with my 50-140 aka 500NE on an SB2 rifle frame and 570gr solids at 2219fps, I could have gone further, but the recoil was getting to be too much from the bench.
Tim

thumper113 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2013, 02:24:24 PM »

I'd hate for someone to just THROW that round at me. You have to video it and post it.

Dinny · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2013, 02:49:11 PM »

Where's Tyler when you need him?

P.S. I know the names of a few good ortho docs. Send me a PM (while you're still able to type) and I'll get that info to you.

Thanks, Dinny

craigster · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2013, 02:55:01 PM »

OK, who's got the cojones to do one in 600 Overkill?

MulberryRiverBoy · « **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2013, 04:50:45 PM »

A 200 lb Handi-Holic spies an 4000 lb elephant and raises his 585 Hubble Express and pulls the trigger. Who ever gets up first is declared the winner, and the spoils of the other is divided according to the laws of the jungle.

Dinny · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2013, 04:56:28 PM »

Quote from: MulberryRiverBoy on May 10, 2013, 04:50:45 PM

A 200 lb Handi-Holic spies an 4000 lb elephant and raises his 585 Hubble Express and pulls the trigger. Who ever gets up first is declared the winner, and the spoils of the other is divided according to the laws of the jungle.

Spanky · « **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2013, 05:08:48 PM »

In a bolt gun it's overkill... in a Handi rifle it's foolish. Hang it on the wall now before it blows off some of your body parts.

Spanky

gcrank1 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 11, 2013, 05:07:13 AM »

If we consider any of the 'big-bores' with LOTS of cartridge capability we all know a lessor load that still has all that bullet inertia will do just fine. It wont be a 'flat shooter' anyway.
Id load a couple up to about 1400fps and to just see where Im at, then boost 'em from there a 100fps at a time, or so, until I hit short of 'pain & suffering'. I know I wouldnt have to go far.......maybe even have to back up (Oh, it'll make ya 'back up' alright, son!).

hoytcanon · « **Reply #23 on:** May 11, 2013, 07:46:29 AM »

Quote from: hwhit on May 10, 2013, 07:45:43 AM

the max load for a bolt action is a 650 at 2850 and 60k psi.

Say what!?!?! You could have helped Denzel Washington in that movie about the run-away train...

Ol BW · « **Reply #24 on:** May 11, 2013, 03:28:58 PM »

Yep you'll have to reload those with a dump truck!;D

"Telescope on a Hubble" HA HA! Why a Hubble of course!8)

Dinny · « **Reply #25 on:** May 11, 2013, 03:51:06 PM »

At what point will the powder charge start to be measured in ounces?

Thanks, Dinny

knight0334 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 13, 2013, 07:35:16 AM »

Quote from: -Dinny on May 11, 2013, 03:51:06 PM

At what point will the powder charge start to be measured in ounces?

Thanks, Dinny

I think Drams would be the accurate terminology. lol

geezerbiker · « **Reply #27 on:** May 13, 2013, 01:48:55 PM »

Please forgive my ignorance on this but I thought the powers at be decided that anything over .50 cal was a destructive device and therefor banned for us peasants.. Am I wrong about this or is there some loophole that let's rifles like this through?

I know the 12g from hell is still a shotgun and that's why it's OK...

Tony

hwhit · « **Reply #28 on:** May 13, 2013, 05:25:22 PM »

Well I was finally able to get out to shoot my .585 Hubel Express. I must admit I was alittle nervous about it because the largest rifle I have shot up until today was my .375 H&H. I really had no idea of what to expect from an 11.5 lbs H&R single shot with a 650 gr Woodleigh at 2400 fps. I reviewed the old post on the proper way to shoot heavy kicking rifle, and I have to say It was nowhere near as bad as I expected, I am hooked now. I am taking it in to have it drilled and tapped for a red dot sight then plan on thinning out some pigs.

Video removed due to language

Sorry, but it violates the Terms of Use.

Tim

thumper113 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 13, 2013, 05:32:21 PM »

That things a flame thrower.