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Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« on: May 12, 2013, 03:36:03 PM »
  It makes more sense than the various and sundry tales told, multi-amended and retold by the administration.  If you read the account by retired Admiral Lyons..it adds up much better than the many seemingly bogus stories we have been handed by the asdministration. Check it out!
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-scandal-that-will-bring-obama-down/
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 03:46:53 PM »
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But something went horribly wrong with Obama’s “October Surprise.” Although the Obama Administration intentionally gutted security at the consulate prior to the staged kidnapping, former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty disobeyed direct orders to stand down, saved American lives, single-handedly killed scores of attackers…and the attackers, believing that Obama had betrayed them, tortured Ambassador Chris Stevens and dragged his body through the streets.
Hmmmmmmmmm!
 
"Benghazi gate" kinda has that  "ain't going away ring", dont it!
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 04:41:28 PM »
As long as the narrative starts with the Rightys defunding Foreign Service security, and continues without the participation of the ones who defunded that security in the investigation, there should be no problem.
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 12:56:33 AM »
too many have testified that help was close at hand...as little as one hour away, from a marine force in Tripoli...


obama was too concerned about going to Las Vegas for campaigning for re-election, that he told subordinates to "Handle it".


as CIC, he is directly responsible for those lives under his command. he IS the top of the chain of command...he has failed and should answer for those KIA defending their comrades...period...no if's, and's or but's...
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 01:14:58 AM »
In this video, Admiral James Lyons converses with Lou Dobbs.  The admiral says there could have been F-16s in full afterburner over the scene in an hour.  There was a ready, fully equipped 130 man, Marine, "Force Recon"*, in Sigonella Italy..which could have been on the scene within 2 hours...but they were told to "stand down"!
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwNwCmM0BzU      The admiral states this between 1:00 and 2:25 in the video.
 
         * Force Recon Marines are a very elite class warriors who would likely have easily decimated the terrorist mob.
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 06:52:19 AM »
I'm not sure whether it was a lefty politician, or some official in the Obama regime who made a statement on the tube to the affect that Obama and company had made the decision that they did not want to irritate the rebel factions in Libya and other muslim countries with American military intervention.  That policy was what they decided to employ in the Benghazi affair.  How's that working for them now?  How would it have worked after 9-11?  Some here believe that it is the right policy.  Maybe so, but as much as we might like to stay out and mind our own business, it never works for very long and always ends with a very bad result.
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 07:23:38 AM »
America has arrived at a time in history when other nations and people no longer fear our might. They now know we will not attack in force under many conditions in an effort to not be seen as bullies. It is the concept of politically correctness run amuck. It will take a great leader to sort things out , it may take a leader who allows the military and intelligence agency's to sort things out and heed their advice. When we go into say Iraq we are fighting insurgents in another land and must respect the non combatants and govt. Our military respects that position and does a good job. But when our country is attacked we should not hold back we should destroy those who made the attack, those who funded the attack and those who may carry on the fight. Showing weakness and indecision has not worked. We should have had troops on the ground as soon as possible if to late to stop the attack then secure the area and remove bodies but secure it. 
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 08:52:27 AM »
  When we are attacked, play Toby Keith on the PA and turn it into a parking lot!

We were attacked there and by people that we armed!

SHOOTAL is correct, no one respects us because we are "the paper tiger" at least our "leaders" are, and we are responsible for them being our leaders.

this may not be prosecuted but it darn sure should be!
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 10:42:20 AM »
America has arrived at a time in history when other nations and people no longer fear our might...........

 Except those in Iraq, Afghanistan, named Osama or recipients of drone mail. ;)
Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean nothing is being done about Benghazi

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Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 11:10:45 AM »
The President has illegally run guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to kill a US Border Guard. No impact.

The President violated the Constitution and committed murder by ordering the execution of US citizens abroad without due process. No impact.

It will soon be demonstrated that the President directed the IRS to hassle and interfere with opposition organizations prior to the 2012 elections. There will be no impact.

Why would you possibly imagine that abandoning US military personnel and an Ambassador to their deaths to avoid political inconvenience might have an impact?
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
The President has illegally run guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to kill a US Border Guard. No impact.

The President violated the Constitution and committed murder by ordering the execution of US citizens abroad without due process. No impact.

It will soon be demonstrated that the President directed the IRS to hassle and interfere with opposition organizations prior to the 2012 elections. There will be no impact.

Why would you possibly imagine that abandoning US military personnel and an Ambassador to their deaths to avoid political inconvenience might have an impact?

Can I have an Amen?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen!
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2013, 01:25:25 AM »
America has arrived at a time in history when other nations and people no longer fear our might...........

 Except those in Iraq, Afghanistan, named Osama or recipients of drone mail. ;)
Just because we don't hear anything doesn't mean nothing is being done about Benghazi
face it in truth those targeted are done so with consent of host nations in most cases sometimes outward others times under the table. You surely realize the news is little more than a dog and pony show.
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If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

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If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

The greatest idea the right ever had is personal responsibility; the greatest idea the left ever had is social responsibility. Both take effort.

The Founding Fathers had complete access to the Bible, but they came up with the Constitution as our governing document.

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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 02:39:02 AM »
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The only ones who care are the rightys, and they are the minority...
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  Thats is certainly an incorrect and naive statement in my opinion but time will tell. The 2014 elections will be the judge.  J
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 02:55:09 AM »
We'll see.
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2013, 03:54:46 AM »
Sad that this is a right and left argument! What ever happend to integrity, honesty, and credibility?
 
Even hard core supporters of the Regime should be wondering, How low can this guy do?
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2013, 04:01:53 PM »
After seven different inquiries, no improprieties have been found. Now they're just wasting taxpayer money.
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Re: Is this the REAL truth about Benghazi ?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2013, 04:35:20 PM »
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no improprieties have been found.

You have yor head stuck somewhere, lets just say its in the sand! I listened to the testimony of the second in command of that embassy, he certainly found improprieties, and testified to them. If you wont admit the truth, you stand in the no credibility line. Its OK to back your guy just accept the truth when  it is given to you under oath. Thow dost protest to much!
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