9.3x57 Husqvarna Loads

[Dresden]

I chronographed my Husky mode 46, built in 1929.   


My loads are 270 gn Speer over 46 grains IMR4895,  2100fps, 2770 ft/lb energy.


                    286gn Hornady rnd nose  over 45 grains of IMR4895, 1970 fps, 2465 ft/lb energy


Federal standard primer for rifle.


This is in my gun, work your own loads carefully, I have no signs of pressure, easy extraction.


Dersden

[JesterGrin]

Congrats on your work with the 9.3X57

But please correct me if I am wrong. But the case is right at the same size as the .308 Correct? If so this cartridge would be very close to the .358 Winchester Case. And again if this is the case there are some threads on the 358 Winchester with TAC Powder with outstanding results.

I know like you needed more to find and read lol.

[Nobade]

Case is longer than a 358 but same diameter. Loaded to much lower pressure. Very similar effect though.

[BBF]

I don't know anyone making or loading a 358 Win with bullets in that weight class.

[Nobade]

Um....I do. My 358 gets loaded with #350457 paper patched, or #358009 naked. 250gr. and 295 gr. respectively. Both shoot lights out and produce somewhat better ballistics than a 9.3X57, due to the higher allowable pressure.  But if you mean factory ammo, then no - 9.3 has it. But who wants to use factory ammo?

[BBF]

That big one must be sitting "waaay" down in the case if you keep OAL within factory specs. You have faster twist in the barrel as well?
 
The trajectory of the big pill must be like a rainbow.

[Nobade]

I seem to remember it ending up right at 2.8" OAL, so it would still fit in a short action. But my rifle is on a long action, so it doesn't make much difference. I am using a 1:14 twist barrel. Not sure what the factories use, but this one stabilizes those big bullets very well. It does have a pretty loopy trajectory (2100 fps muzzle velocity) but since I mostly shoot black powder guns it's plenty flat to me! At any rate, hits to 300M are easy. I figure past that other guns would be a better choice.

Great fun though, lots of hit and not much recoil. Pretty miserly on the powder consumption as well, half as much as my 416 eats per shot. Quite a useful cartridge!

[Nobade]

Hey wait a minute....this was supposed to be about the 9.3X57. How did we get started on the 358? My apologies to the OP for the thread drift.....

[Dresden]

I have been doing some more reading, especially the 9.3x57 article in the April 2013 Handloader magazine, the article is well written and more importantly covers forming brass from other cases, in this example he uses the 30-06 case. An important subject covered is case neck thickness and it's effect on final case neck diameter in regards to the ability of the case to release the bullet under pressure. The author shows how to turn case necks
to permit the proper expansion to keep pressures within the margin of safety.


The comments about the 35 Winchester are appreciated, the 9x57 Mauser is the European equivalent of that cartridge with a lower operating pressure and mild recoil. I load my Commercial Mauser with 250 gn Hawk .356
round nose bullets as follows: 250 grains / H4895 (AR2206) / 45 grains / 2250 fps.


The 9.3x57 offers using the good deals in the large numbers of Husqvarna rifles on the market in the $350 dollar range, for little money you get a perfect stalking rifle  with classic lines. I put a Mosin Nagant sling on mine for about $6, it easily fit the 3/4"  swivels.


I have a perfect light heavy hitting woods rifle that will take most North American game, the only limitation is range, the possible exception being coastal Grizzly bears.

[BBF]

Dresden
Just to clear someting up for me. Are you writing about the 35 Winchester or the 358 Win. I presume you know they are not the same.

[JesterGrin]

I don't know anyone making or loading a 358 Win with bullets in that weight class.

I was not going to say anything but a few of your statements bug me a little.

Simply because you may or may not have heard about something does not mean it will not work or even work well.

When I first started loading I felt that  everything was new to me. So I did not have a bias for anything of which kept me open to ideas not only with components but also with equipment. And I try to stay open to ideas in all things.

So in other words unless you have direct experience with either components or equipment being discussed do not throw the Baby out with the bath water.

As for the bullet weight class of the .358 Winchester they can vary greatly. From a light pistol bullet up into the 300 Gr class both Cast and Jacketed. Of which each design has a use of which would need to be determined by the loader. Through either personal experimentation or through the reading of findings of others and then try out the information for themselves.


Dresden I just remembered that over on the Cast BOOLIT forum there was a Group Buy Mold for the 9.3 that looks like a copy of the 358009. 

[Dresden]

As much as I like 358 caliber rifles, I have two 35 Whelens, we are actually talking about 366 caliber rifles when 9.3mm is a topic.
The 9.3x57 is an early European hunting cartridge that was favored in Sweden for close range heavy woods Moose hunting.
The other common 366 bore is the 9.3x62mm Mauser  was developed as an African hunting cartridge in 1911, and sold in Germany's colonies there.  It has low recoil yet it has a tremendous amount of killing power, it is very close to the 375 Holland and Holland.
These calibers are becoming popular among North American shooters who realize a metric designation is acceptable as a good cartridge, or like myself the shooters who are tired of the swill delivered by Remington and Winchester.