Author Topic: hussein to announce major cuts to our nuclear arsenal soon. (Read 1612 times)

powderman · « **on:** May 19, 2013, 04:17:37 AM »

Obama to Announce Major US Nuclear Force Cuts Soon Bill Gertz
15 May 2013

President Barack Obama is set to announce a new round of strategic nuclear warhead reductions in the near future as part of a disarmament agenda that could reduce U.S. strategic warheads to as few as 1,000 weapons.

The next round of U.S.-Russian arms talks would follow Obama's expected announcement that the United States' arsenal of strategic warheads can be reduced unilaterally to around 1,000 warheads. That position is expected as part of the Pentagon's long-delayed Nuclear Posture Review implementation study that Obama was expected to sign earlier this year.

Recent press reports have indicated that President Obama may make the cuts -- fully one-third of the nation's arsenal -- by executive action and without Congressional authorization.

MUCH more here: http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/ob...#ixzz2TV8T3SR0

magooch · « **Reply #1 on:** May 19, 2013, 05:06:34 AM »

If this type of action isn't subject to Congressional review, what the hell is?

powderman · « **Reply #2 on:** May 19, 2013, 07:11:50 AM »

Quote from: magooch on May 19, 2013, 05:06:34 AM

If this type of action isn't subject to Congressional review, what the hell is?

MAGOOCH. If I remember correctly an open mic caught hussein saying to putin that after he was reelected he'd be able to do more. Obummer has no regard for the law or the cobstitution. I have no use for hussein, or those who support him, I consider them enemies of the United States, domestic terrorists. POWDERMAN.

BBF · « **Reply #3 on:** May 19, 2013, 10:26:20 AM »

Don't you think 1000 or so nukes from just one country aren't enough to screw up this entire planet beyond supporting life for a long time, certainly human life?

Lizzie-6 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 19, 2013, 12:34:01 PM »

Quote from: BBF on May 19, 2013, 10:26:20 AM

Don't you think 1000 or so nukes from just one country aren't enough to screw up this entire planet beyond supporting life for a long time, certainly human life?

It depends.

Sovereign nations have the right of self defense on their own soil. Nuclear warheads are NOT the problem. International traffic in nuclear weapons must be STOPPED, here and now.

Therefore, we need an international treaty that - while recognizing the fundamental right of national self defense - also establishes an outright ban on the transporting of warheads and weapons grade materials and/or components across national borders.

This treaty would require that any nation wishing nuclear armaments would be required to manufacture them locally. Naturally, it would likewise require that any detonation of said device must take place within the national borders of (or sovereign airspace above) the country of manufacture. Or not at all.

Gary G · « **Reply #5 on:** May 19, 2013, 01:04:54 PM »

The US had enough nukes to blow up the world five times. maybe we can reduce to enough to blow up the world four times and save a few pennies too; since our demise is going to be the debt, why not?

powderman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:15:04 PM »

Quote from: BBF on May 19, 2013, 10:26:20 AM

Don't you think 1000 or so nukes from just one country aren't enough to screw up this entire planet beyond supporting life for a long time, certainly human life?

bbf. Of course, but congress was not even consulted, imam obama is doing this on his own, bypassing congress AGAIN. Hussein is arrogant and does as he pleases, he needs his hands tied and his big mouth taped shut. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:24:40 PM »

What's he doing...I hope he isn't selling them to Al Queda ? ...But nothing he does, surprises me..

two-blocked · « **Reply #8 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:31:02 PM »

For some a civics course may be in order.
Obama can sign a treaty but the senate has to ratify it.
Which party holds a majority in the senate? That answer should help dispell some of this self induced frenzy.

powderman · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2013, 05:34:36 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on May 19, 2013, 03:24:40 PM

What's he doing...I hope he isn't selling them to Al Queda ? ...But nothing he does, surprises me..

IG. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. If he can get one to his muslim brotherhood or his pali brothers he will. Hussein is pure evil. POWDERMAN.

ChungDoQuan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2013, 06:38:08 PM »

De-commed nukes go to certified places for disassembly. Sandia labs in NM used to do it, and I think there were other places in Texas and maybe Ohio?

magooch · « **Reply #11 on:** May 20, 2013, 03:53:28 AM »

What needs to be decommissioned is the treasonist in charge.

powderman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 20, 2013, 04:06:48 AM »

Quote from: magooch on May 20, 2013, 03:53:28 AM

What needs to be decommissioned is the treasonist in charge.

YEP, all the way back to kenya. POWDERMAN.

Reason_Please · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2013, 09:30:12 AM »

Quote from: powderman on May 19, 2013, 03:15:04 PM

Quote from: BBF on May 19, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
Don't you think 1000 or so nukes from just one country aren't enough to screw up this entire planet beyond supporting life for a long time, certainly human life?

bbf. Of course, but congress was not even consulted, imam obama is doing this on his own, bypassing congress AGAIN. Hussein is arrogant and does as he pleases, he needs his hands tied and his big mouth taped shut. POWDERMAN.

Congress has the rope and tape, I would go around them too. Since it is filled with butt hurt politicians that have not been getting their way and invite the grudging mentality of a 4th grader into my political system. Redistribute some taxpayer money away from 1000 more nukes and into something useful like say schools? Yes please.

magooch · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2013, 10:57:12 AM »

What does it matter who has the "rope and tape"; this country's security and defense is far too important for a stupid Kenyan to be making unilateral decisions about it.

Those schools you speak of wouldn't be worth spit if our overwhelming ability to annihilate potential enemies is compromised.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:00:26 AM »

Well, those schools won't be worth spit either if a bunch of nukes are used.
GuzziJohn

DDZ · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2013, 11:31:17 AM »

Just wondering what some people consider is enough money being dumped into what we like to call education? With the amount of money we dump into the education/indoctrination process we should be graduating intelligent kids. I guess its kind of a feel good thing for liberals to say we need more money for our schools. Its like "look what we are doing we are trying to fix education with more money". One of these days I hope they find out that money doesn't have much to do with how our kids are educated. Oh well at least we can keep pouring money into the bottomless pit with continuously poor results, and feel good about it.

Anyway keeping the extra 1000 nukes will be money better spent. Its kind of relative to the thief trying to decide which house to rob. The house that has lots of guns, or the house that has none. Its a concept that liberals could never grasp.

powderman · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2013, 04:33:44 PM »

DDZ. Good Post Sir. More money for schools to hire more liberal teachers kinda defeats the purpose of a real education. The county to our East just dropped their scores to pass at 60 and adj grades making it easier to pass. More kids passing makes smarter kids, RIGHT?? Thats libby educators for ya. Want to pass more kids?? lower the standards. POWDERMAN.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2013, 05:04:53 PM »

The only reason we have not been nuked is the fact that WE HOLD THE THREAT OF NUCLEAR ANNIHILATION. A bunch of our weapons may not be launched for some reason or another. Should we get to the point that it may be successful to nuke us and destroy some of our stuff(in addition to the stuff that doesn't get launched) we will be toast. Unless We trust that our enemies can be trusted, do we dare reduce our capability anymore? I dont trust barry, or anyone else for that matter, to make that decision by executive order.

All that being said;

I believe that nuclear attacks are not going to come from traditonal enemy sources such as Russia, China...................... $:-\$

BBF · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2013, 07:29:48 AM »

I could argue, actually I am, that Iran and N.Korea see it the same way. As long as they don't have nukes they are subject to someone "crappping" all over them. Nukes are an deterrent to keep your own house from getting bombed by those that have Nukes, the others are SOL.

Case in similar non-nuke point. Do you think the IDF would fly and bomb Syria if that country had a good Air Defense?

magooch · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2013, 09:36:23 AM »

The above are the best arguments I've seen for why we should have nuked North Korea and Iran a few years ago. That's not to say that it's too late to rectify that neglect.

DDZ · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:03:03 AM »

Quote from: BBF on May 23, 2013, 07:29:48 AM

I could argue, actually I am, that Iran and N.Korea see it the same way. As long as they don't have nukes they are subject to someone "crappping" all over them. Nukes are an deterrent to keep your own house from getting bombed by those that have Nukes, the others are SOL.

Case in similar non-nuke point. Do you think the IDF would fly and bomb Syria if that country had a good Air Defense?

I think there is a difference. There are some countries that are not looking to nuke anyone. The nukes they have are for a deterrent, like our nukes for instance. Then there are countries like Iran and N. Korea that have leadership that are, shall we say, like a loose cannon, that are just itching to wipe someone off the map. In fact both dictators from those two countries that you mentioned, that just want nukes for a deterrent, have made public statements about wanting to nuke another country. I really can't see the argument that Iran and N. Korea are just like anyone else, and just want nukes for a deterrent.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2013, 04:44:00 PM »

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Case in similar non-nuke point. Do you think the IDF would fly and bomb Syria if that country had a good Air Defense?

Honestly, Israel would go bomb syria if that country had a real good Air Defense. If they thought missles there were being aimed at them, or being shipped to their enemies to use against them. Only Reagan and H.W. Bush( 1) kept them from making iraq a parking lot.

Come on, Like the jews or not, you cant say they are cowards, they have fought and beaten all who have attacked them. at this point in time they would attack and bomb anyone they thought posed a real threat to their existance. They have proved that before.

BBF · « **Reply #23 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:05:11 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on May 23, 2013, 04:44:00 PM

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Case in similar non-nuke point. Do you think the IDF would fly and bomb Syria if that country had a good Air Defense?

Honestly, Israel would go bomb syria if that country had a real good Air Defense. If they thought missles there were being aimed at them, or being shipped to their enemies to use against them. Only Reagan and H.W. Bush( 1) kept them from making iraq a parking lot.

Come on, Like the jews or not, you cant say they are cowards, they have fought and beaten all who have attacked them. at this point in time they would attack and bomb anyone they thought posed a real threat to their existance. They have proved that before.

I don't like or dislike them because they are Jews in the religious or ethnic sense. I reserve my critique for their political and economical meddling.

As far as the military is concerned, the outcome of some battles/wars would probably be different without massive US help in equipment and Intelligence.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #24 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:25:57 AM »

I guess i missed your point. Does the fact that they had help from an ally discount their victories. This country, and Canada, had help from allies beating back their enemies. It certainly doesn't make them cowards that they took advantage of support from allies.

I dont know of any inteligence reports from this government that assisted them in their defense of their country. Do you?

powderman · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2013, 04:07:21 PM »

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As far as the military is concerned, the outcome of some battles/wars would probably be different without massive US help in equipment and Intelligence.

bbf. We have benefitted greatly from Israel. Every piece of military equipment they have gotten from us they have improved upon greatly. They have been a proving ground so to speak. Do you think that it's better to arm an enemy like hussein does?? Egypt, syria, etc?? POWDERMAN.

DDZ · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2013, 01:54:15 AM »

Thats right PM. Israel is a very innovative, and industrious people. They have helped the world with many inventions and discoveries. Its something how a country the size of our 5th smallest state NJ, is hated so much. Wonder if any of the haters of Israel stopped to think why that is?

powderman · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2013, 03:41:32 AM »

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Wonder if any of the haters of Israel stopped to think why that is?

DDZ. Jews and Israel are hated because they represent God, they are Gods chosen ones. They thrive and flourish because of God. Many of the haters are muslims, some we know. Many others are simply liberals, to whom God is a nuisance. Israel is an in your face reminder to libs that God really does exist, and that makes libbies heads hurt. Stop and think now. If liberals were to admit that God exists then they might have to give up the things they hold near and dear to their heats. Adultery, killing babies, and rampant homosexuality, to name a few. My goodness, liberals couldn't live without those things, 2 of which are important enough to them to be made part of the DNC platform. By hating Israel they try and convince themselves that God doesn't exist and that their immoral beliefs are way cool. Israel gives them a conscience, someting unknown to liberals or most dems, and that scares them. I shoulda known this would be turned into ANOTHER anti Israel anti Jew thread.

POWDERMAN.

DDZ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2013, 03:51:48 AM »

Exactly PM, but none of the haters would ever dare to admit that what spawns the hate is because Israel is God's chosen people. Thats what it says in the Bible, pretty much from cover to cover.

D Fischer · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2013, 04:45:09 AM »

I seem to remember when I was in the Air Force, 1965-1973, the Israel's got F86's for us. Were outdated and relatively slow so they pumped them up a bit. Added F106 motors to them. made them pretty darn fast! Maybe it was F102 motors. I talked to a piolet that had actually seen them go and he said they could out run anything!