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What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« on: May 20, 2013, 12:26:59 PM »
NEF SB2 heavy barrel open sights.  I am thinking of buying it.  Seems like a good price to me.  thanks
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 01:46:00 PM »
I would guess about  $225-250?  Larry
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 02:00:31 PM »
What is the price by the way?  I would say $180 to $195, but I'm kinda a cheap SOB, so probably $200 to $250.
 
Someone else will be along shortly to give you a better opinion probably, but just in case here are some other options. . .
 
Search the classifieds for the same outfit and it will give you a pretty fair price.  That is why we never erase the classified deals!  Keep in mind, most of the transactions there consider shipping and possibly FFL fees.
 
Another option is go to your local library and check out a copy of the Gun Traders Guide or Blue Book of Gun Values or other like publication.
 
Of course you could always go to your local Wal-Mart or other retail facility and pick a copy of one of thoes books off the shelf and look up the gun and put it back. . .  ;D :o ;) :)
 
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 02:36:10 PM »
asking price is $200.  I hope to get it for 175, let him keep the scope.  thanks
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 02:46:34 PM »
That appears to be a standard taper barrel, but I don't recall seeing them with sights before. ??? That's a good price especially if it's on a SB2 frame.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 02:56:39 PM »
The SB2-224 Hornet has always come with sights, just like 30-30, 45-70 and 500S&W, it was listed with those before they dropped it. 

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 02:57:16 PM »
The hornets come with open sights, no scope base.  At least for the last few years.

Value seems to vary by where you are at in the country.  For $200 you could break it up and sell it with a little money ending up in your pocket.

Check the FAQ for the year made (serial number) and rate of twist.  The new ones are a 1:9 twist, that looks like it may be a 1:12 ??? by the stock set on it.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 03:09:24 PM »
here is a closer look at the receiver.  looks to be in pretty good shape.  Hopefully I can check it out tomorrow.  The new ones are so expensive now and I always wanted a 22 hornet. 
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 03:14:34 PM »
pic of the other side
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 01:26:26 PM »
I just bought a brand new SB2 Hornet (72580) for $264 today, if that helps.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2013, 02:01:06 PM »
You better go get it, I've been looking at that one too! ;)

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2013, 02:09:56 PM »
I bought it.  NEF SN NK 40xxxx, stamped handi rifle SB2 on barrel.   Looks good.  Hope I didn't get screwed.  Have to get another scope.  Has a Tasco Golden Antler 4x42 now that I will use on slug gun.  Thinking of a 2x7 something.  Now I got to call my brother and get his 22 hornet empties. 
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2013, 02:58:50 PM »
vabeachman, I'm no expert on handi's but I do have one, you stated the S/N was NK40XXX, correct? If tha is the S/N frame was made in 1998, I believe and may be a SB1 frame. The best way to tell is to remove the buttstock and look at the back of the frame. SB2 frames are steel and skeletonized and have a smoother frame interior. SB1 are cast iron and rougher texture and will be smooth on the back where it meets buttstock. Thed best explanation will be found in the FAQ section at the top of this forum. Good luck with your Handi and keep us in the loop, John.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 03:39:12 PM »
here is what the back of the receiver looks like
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2013, 03:50:14 PM »
looks like an SB2 to me.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 03:52:44 PM »
That's an SB2.  Get a Lee neck sizing collet die to extend brass life and make reloading much easier.  The Lee factory crimp die is a must in the hornet.  The slight crimp in the thin brass gives more consistent ignition and better accuracy.

If I was starting over with my hornets I would ream to K-Hornet from the start.  The dies are expensive, but the K solves a lot of the hornet's issues.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 04:06:52 PM »
I got some casting supplies.  I guess I will need to slug the barrel and then get a mold.  Thanks for the info on dies, I heard 22 hornet can be difficult. 
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2013, 04:24:03 PM »
Loading the hornet is quirky.  I've not tried cast in the hornet, but everything I've read says your going to need some kind of magic dust to make it work.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2013, 05:52:41 PM »
I had some trouble with Hornet case necks when I started loading them. A competition seater die solved the problem, never ruin cases now. Hornets are fun ENJOY!!
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 01:28:33 AM »
I doubt many viewers here would have passed up a deal like that. I was going to add if they needed it, but that doesn't  seem to influence too many of us either.  I'm guessin' the life of that scope will be short if you mount it on a slug gun.

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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 03:31:22 AM »
I have reamed all my Hornets to "K", but I always inspected bullets before loading in the regular Hornet, if there is a nick or irregular surface, you could count on crumpling the case neck... I used light lube on my finger tips to barely coat the bullet and the Lee seater... And didn't have any problems... The K's took care of those issues though. I bought my own K reamer so that my chambers would be consistent, as I have four K's and didn't want to run into chamber-fit problems..
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 04:15:49 AM »
I like the K hornet. Thinking of having it done.  Some sites mention a KE hornet and state rental reamers that are listed as K hornets are actually KE Hornets.  I would hate to buy K hornet reloading dies for a barrel that is rechambered for the KE Hornet.  Saw some K hornet dies on ebay, price seemed ok.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 06:18:12 AM »
After shooting 3000+ cast bullets out of 3 different rifles I'd say forget about slugging the barrel for cast bullets. You want the bullet to fit the expanded (fire-formed) case mouth and throat. The Lee Collet Neck Size Die adjusts to give you just a smidge of clearance in the chamber and grasp the bullet. A typical 45gr. Hornet plain base bullet profile at something like 1350-1400ish fps (a gas check bullet can get more) will shoot pretty well and have way more thwack than a 22LR. Jacketed would do consistent 3/10ths" groups at 50yds for me (iffn I did my part).
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 07:58:53 AM »
Thanks gcrank1,  Sounds like a good small game or turkey load. I think I'll be saving my lead for my 45-70.  Looks like great accuracy.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2013, 08:20:35 AM »
Casting those little pills is ......challenging......a gang mould would be super, but a single hole is tedious even though you get one bullet to shoot just like a single hole 45-70. Seems that you just get to pouring and ya gotta stop; that hole fills up so fast.
Tell you for sure an' certain, you will get a lot more bullets out of a pound o' lead!
You can buy good bullets, I'd recommend getting a sample of .224 and .225 dia. to fit to your fire-formed brass and use the biggest that will comfortably fit with just that smidge of neck compression from the Lee Collet Sizer so when the bullet is pressed in (lightly) it still just chambers up and extracts cleanly.
BTW, I dont follow the Lee instructions for setting that Collet Die, I go by the 'feel' for min. sizing to take that big bullet. PM me when you get your bits together for a walk through, if you want.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2013, 01:29:13 PM »
Going be awhile before I get everything.  Probably will get about 30 empties from brother.  Got some sr 4759, but will be on look out for other powder.  I only have large rifle primers.  Do I need small ones?  Needs dies.  Can I use regular .224 bullets? I have some sierra 55 grainers.  thanks,
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »
Small Rifle Primers are standard, though many of my cast loads were with Small Pistol. I had fine performance at the reduced velocities. I also used a bunch of the 'shotgun' powders and had only started with Lil'Gun when I sold the last one. Its a little case, not unlike the reduced volume of pistol cases so you dont have a big boiler room to stuff slower burning powders into, though the 'right' slower powder at a dense loading volume can still spit a little cast bullet at the velo's I cited before.
Specifically, 700X, RedDot and Unique worked very well for me; never had any SR4759.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2013, 02:06:58 PM »
vabeachman, glad to see you did get an SB2 frame, good luck with it and keep us posted on how it shoots and what you do with it, take care, John.
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2013, 02:18:34 AM »
Find a pound of LilGun and load a BUNCH of Hornets.  H 110 or W 296 are also good powders, I had good groups with the 35 and 40 gr. Hornady V-max bullets.  Good luck and enjoy!  DP
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Re: What is a NEF 22 hornet worth
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2013, 02:56:30 AM »
I use Lil' Gun and H110 in my K's, mostly with 40 VM's... But also the 35 & 50 VM's and 52 BTHP's... If I could only use one load it would be the 40 VM over 12.0 grains of H110.
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