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America's toughest sheriff gets spanked!
« on: May 27, 2013, 02:49:23 PM »
That's what he gets for going after Hussein with his cold-case posse!  Hey, did the posse ever come up with anything? 8)
 
The Self-Described “Toughest Sheriff in America” Is Guilty of Racial Profiling, Judge Rules
 
 
     Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio certainly knows how to get attention. He has required prisoners to wear pink underwear and sleep in tents. He has removed salt and pepper from prisons in what he described as a bid to save money for taxpayers. Yet nothing has gotten Arpaio more attention than his trademark immigration patrols that he launched in 2006 that a judge has now ruled are illegal. A federal judge ruled that Arpaio’s office violated the constitutional rights of Latino drivers as part of his crackdown of immigration violations in the state that is the busiest entryway for illegal immigrants. It was the first time a court has ruled Arpaio’s agency is guilty of racial profiling, reports the Associated Press.
 
 Coming at a time when many in Arizona were demanding action on illegal immigration, Arpaio quickly became a political lightning rod. And Arpaio has insisted the federal government will not stop him from doing what he thinks is right. But now he will be forced to comply with the ruling as the judge said Arpaio’s office “has no authority to detain people based only on reasonable suspicion, or probable cause, without more, that such persons are in this country without authorization.” In their eagerness to enforce immigration laws, Arpaio and his officers ended up violating the constitutional rights of both U.S. citizens and legal immigrants, reports Reuters. Eight months after a non-jury trial, the judge said Arpaio’s office can’t detain Latino drivers and passengers only on the suspicion that they’re illegal immigrants or use race or ancestry as grounds to stop anyone. Arpaio long denied the allegations and will appeal the ruling.
 
 The ruling was an unexpected “gift” for the organizers of a drive to recall Arpaio that had lost momentum in recent weeks as the sheriff maintained a low profile, reports the Arizona Republic. “It’s a gift that reminded us that Sheriff Arpaio has to go,’’ the organizer of the campaign tells the paper.
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2013, 03:16:18 PM »
Yeah, Obummer's administration can discriminate against Tea Party members and conservatives in general on many levels, but ole Sheriff Arpaio can't even look cross-eyed at an invader without some panty wetting judge having a hissy fit.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2013, 03:22:19 PM »
Judge was likely an appointed or lefty judge ...just doing his messiah's bidding.  You elect the Chicago thuggery into office..you get thugish activities.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 03:24:35 PM »
I guess racial profiling is wrong, but political profiling and enemy lists are ok.  Makes sense to me, and always worked for the USSR.
 
Lets see, you enforce the law it's wrong, you break the law, it's right.
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 03:33:19 PM »
I realize it's easier to indiscriminately cast blame than do a little research, so I took the liberty of doing it for you.
 
The District Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who made the ruling was appointed under none other than George W. Bush in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Murray_Snow
 
Doesn't sound very "leftie" to me. Sounds like a judge doing his job.  ;) :-* :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 04:40:30 PM »
HMMMM, now if I was looking for mex criminal invaders, who would I stop?? Whites??, uh no. Blacks?? uhh no. Native Americans?? Uhhh no.  Uhhhhhh, mexicans or other latinos?? BINGO. I guess checking mexicans while looking for mex illegals makes too much sense for liberals to understand.
 
 Kinda like checking all the above looking for muslim terrorists, just don't chk a muslim.
What a darn shame tying sheriff Joes hands, I smell osama obama in this decision. Looks like the pantywetter liberals have been busy. Thank a few liberals today. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 05:11:28 PM »
I realize it's easier to indiscriminately cast blame than do a little research, so I took the liberty of doing it for you.
 
The District Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who made the ruling was appointed under none other than George W. Bush in 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Murray_Snow
 
Doesn't sound very "leftie" to me. Sounds like a judge doing his job.  ;) :-* :-* :-* :-*


I don't remember old GW doing much during his Adm to send Illegals packin. Some of his appointees did just the opposite. One he appointed while Guv of Tx prosecuted two Border patrol agents doing their job and sent them  to prison, and the best GW could do as Pres was.......Commute their sentences after their lives were ruined.He prob appointed many Liberals to various positions. That's what Liberals do ;)

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 06:09:33 PM »
HUNTER. I agree with you, but theres nothing wrong with stopping mexicans if yer looking for illegals. Profile away, good job sheriff Joe, shame on the liberals. I don't ever remember GW telling the BP to stop arresting and deporting the invaders. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 06:18:18 PM »
So now GW is a liberal? Good luck with that, I don't think they'll want him.
 
Don't like undocumented immigrants, fix the system.
 
Don't want the immigrants documented or otherwise.  Ain't gonna happen!  The Democrats and Republicans that run the country know that the America you've come to expect can't exist without them.
 
Why the U.S. Needs More Immigrants
 
If the Unites States is to maintain its superpower status into the next century, we need more immigrants coming into the country over the next several decades.
The United States population, without new immigrants in the mix, looks a lot like those of other developed nations: aging, declining, and headed towards economic uncertainty.
These developed countries are now facing increasing challenges in maintaining both their economic power and relative geopolitical status in the face of some grim demographic trends.
Countries such as Germany, Japan and Spain, to name but a few examples, are facing long-term economic imbalances between workers and retirees, and the terrifying prospect of shrinking populations and the proportional economic decline that it will bring.
According to the CIA report "Long-Term Global Demographic Trends":
...As populations age and fertility rates continue to decline, our major allies-- even those who are currently plagued with unemployment and considerably tighter labor markets:

 *The working-age population (15-64) in Japan is expected to decline by 37 percent by 2050, according to US Census projections.
*In Italy, the working-age population will decline by an alarming 39 percent by 2050
*Germany's working-age population will fall by more than 18 percent
 during that same period...
*The working populations of the United States and Canada are expected to grow, albeit less robustly than in the past, for the foreseeable future:
The US working-age population is expected to rise by 33 percent over
 the next 50 years, a fairly sluggish pace compared to trends in the past
 half century.
...In any case, the ratio of taxpaying workers to nonworking pensioners in
 the developed world is due to fall. Today, that ratio is about 4:1 in most
 industrialized nations. In 50 years this ratio will drop to less than 2:1 or
 even lower in some countries in Europe and Japan. It will fall to 3:1 in the
 United States.


 The United States' long-term economic and geopolitical status is interconnected with immigration flows into the U.S., a constant, predictable flow of people that refreshes the number of workers supporting an aging population, paying taxes and injecting vitality into the economy and society.
In short, if we want to maintain our superpower status, assure robust economic growth, save Social Security, and other entitlement programs, we will need a growing pool of (immigrant) tax payers to fund our national project.
We will need new workers that can support the increasing number of Baby Boomer retirees.
The CIA report goes on to state:
Over the next 50 years the developed countries are projected to become smaller and the United States is projected to increase by nearly half. As a result, the population of Western Europe, which in 2000 was larger than that of the United States by about 115 million, in 2050 will become smaller by 40 million. Japan's population will steadily drop from less than half of the US population to one-fourth its size by 2050.

And China, seen by many as our next, big geopolitical rival, is not exactly well positioned, demographically speaking, for long term economic vitality.
China, which since the 1970's has implemented Draconian population control measures, is facing an aging crisis as well.  From the CIA report:
By 2025 there will be more than 200 million people 65 and over and more than 300 million by 2050--close to the entire current population of the United States...
 Moreover, the working-age population supporting the pension system will be shrinking proportionally to retirees; the ratio of population ages 20 to 59 to those 60 and over is projected to decline from the current 6.7 in 2000 to 5.0 in 2010 and 2.7 in 2025. China's pension system is already faltering (some academics call it "actuarially unsound"), and pension costs are expected to exceed 40 percent of payroll by the early 2030s, according to a US think tank. In an economy in which most workers live near subsistence, this could be a crushing burden.

Maintaining the United States' global economic and military supremacy is inextricably interwoven with a growing population.
Our heritage of immigration has created a unique competitive advantage for America; we are as a country comfortable with immigrants (Arizona not withstanding) and take pride in being "a nation of immigrants."  We attract some of the most creative, talented and hardest working people from around the world -- and they succeed in our open, tolerant culture.
No other country on Earth gives immigrants the level playing field, the cultural acceptance and the general opportunity for success like the United States.
As the immigration debate rages across the country, we must not lose sight that this country has a brilliant future -- a future where immigrants will continue to make a significant contribution to the common good, our long-term economic health and global superpower status.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 06:44:53 PM »
HMMMM, now if I was looking for mex criminal invaders, who would I stop?? Whites??, uh no. Blacks?? uhh no. Native Americans?? Uhhh no.  Uhhhhhh, mexicans or other latinos?? BINGO. I guess checking mexicans while looking for mex illegals makes too much sense for liberals to understand.
 
 Kinda like checking all the above looking for muslim terrorists, just don't chk a muslim.
What a darn shame tying sheriff Joes hands, I smell osama obama in this decision. Looks like the pantywetter liberals have been busy. Thank a few liberals today. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 06:46:16 PM »
racial profiling is not mentioned in the Constitution, get a grip


“has no authority to detain people based only on reasonable suspicion, or probable cause, without more, that such persons are in this country without authorization.”

really?? who other than an officer of the law can detain someone on a reasonable suspicion??? ILLEGAL is illegal no matter what word follows!
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 06:59:20 PM »
The right has not let Obama appoint very many people...
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 11:04:48 PM »
The Bush family are inter married with the Mexicans, so GW wasn't going to go after them. In fact he was on their side!

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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 12:25:27 AM »
The Leftists want free access to the US for millions of border jumpers..but don't want to grant one Christian family from Germany a chance at the same.
  Actually the court had already granted the family American asylum, when O apparently told Holder to get the Christian out of the country.
   http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/05/15/court-rules-against-german-homeschool-family-seeking-asylum-n1594988/page/full
   Wouldn't it seem that of all the problems..IRS, Benghazi, harrassment of reporters, targeting conservatives (e.g. Gibson guitar etc).. that they wouldn't dig up more problems for themselves?  ..But it appears there is a grudge against Christians specifically..  Why else would the Holder "justice" dept single this family out to prosecute?  After all, this family has tried to do it the honest and lawful way..but evidently the Chicago mob would rather grant asylum to millions who do it illegally, than one family who tried to do it honestly.  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511825,00.html
 
  Yeah Obie,  Better deport them..they sure look like criminals..real dangerous folks..   Never mind that 120,000 Americans signed a petition for them to stay..
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 12:53:16 AM »
That sheriff is an elected official, has been reelected multiple times, and appears to be doing what the community of voters want. This isnt some podunk town, its phoenix, a metropolitan county. This sheriff wouldnt have gotten national attention if the federal government had simply done its job in enforcing immigration law. Now phoenix has a mess on its hands and they are doing what they can to maintain law and order.

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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 01:12:57 AM »
Quote from Powderman:
"HMMMM, now if I was looking for mex criminal invaders, who would I stop?? Whites??, uh no. Blacks?? uhh no. Native Americans?? Uhhh no.  Uhhhhhh, mexicans or other latinos?? BINGO. I guess checking mexicans while looking for mex illegals makes too much sense for liberals to understand. 
 Kinda like checking all the above looking for muslim terrorists, just don't chk a muslim.
What a darn shame tying sheriff Joes hands, I smell osama obama in this decision. Looks like the pantywetter liberals have been busy. Thank a few liberals today. POWDERMAN. "


The above is kind of like stopping all redneck looking folk to check for DUI because some have been known to drive with a beer or two.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 01:53:22 AM »

The above is kind of like stopping all redneck looking folk to check for DUI because some have been known to drive with a beer or two.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 02:55:24 AM »
Guzzi:
 
This is Phoenix AZ we're talking about. The people who claim that he's just stopping any old brown skinned person are the ones who are against him. They can't possibly simply be doing that because there is such a huge hispanic population there. I think you've fallen for all three of the above:
1) What his local detractors say
2) What the department of justice says
3) What the Obama administration says.
 
I'm no big partisan for local law enforcement, but in terms of who has more credibility, the sherriff's department or the other three above, I'll take the sherriff. If he were wrong, he wouldn't have been re-elected in a diverse place like Maricopa county so many times.
 
I will say it's probably about time for a new sherriff because he's about 80 years old and has been in office for a long time, and it's probably good to have a new sheriff once in a while. He's been sheriff there for about 20 years. Could say the same for congressmen too and nobody seems to think a bunch of dead wood is a bad thing there.

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 04:04:49 AM »
This would never ever have come up if it were a fact that Hispanics were strong conservatives and if given the chance, they would always favor the Republican Party.  Sheriff Joe could stop all the wet backs he wanted and would probably be given kudos for doing so.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 04:25:24 AM »
Something you rightys are overlooking is that this IS the southwest we're talking about here. What Guzzi is saying is that this is the equivalent of going to Harlem and stopping all black people, looking for the drug dealers, or stopping all white people in Dayton, looking for crooked lawyers. Are y'all saying that you don't have a problem with  breaking the law trying to enforce the law?
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 04:49:13 AM »
CDQ,
 
The allegation from organizations like La Raza is that what you describe is happening. Is there any basis in fact? Kinda doubt it. Police know when they're wasting their time. And they're smart enough to know the behaviors that trigger a stop.

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 06:31:05 AM »
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I don't remember old GW doing much during his Adm to send Illegals packin. Some of his appointees did just the opposite. One he appointed while Guv of Tx prosecuted two Border patrol agents doing their job and sent them  to prison, and the best GW could do as Pres was.......Commute their sentences after their lives were ruined.He prob appointed many Liberals to various positions. That's what Liberals do ;)

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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 06:40:47 AM »
So how does one stop illegal hispanic immigrants if you DON'T profile???????????
Just another worthless opinion!!

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 06:46:56 AM »
DakotaShooter2:
 
That's easy! Just let the TSA handle it. Their model is already set up to handle that kind of work.  :) ;) :) ;)

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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2013, 07:08:51 AM »
. Are y'all saying that you don't have a problem with  breaking the law trying to enforce the law?

Really ? Did it ever occur to you or any other leftie that by only stopping those who fit the description of the criminal you don't waste funds or cause major traffic jams ?  Here when the DC snipers were in full swing it was thought they were in a white van and hundreds were stopped. So as always there is a practical side . And why would the legal population not want to help catch the illegals ?
If I were the sheriff I would set up and stop everyone and run a check on them.
 
 
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2013, 07:11:48 AM »
BTW I keep a ice chest full of water on my truck year around and get stopped often because I fit a profile of a drunk driver , white PU with a cooler. They always ask if they can check the cooler and I always say if you get a warrant. They get all worked up looking and I say if you want a bottle of water help yourself but don't ask to go fishing .
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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 07:16:55 AM »
Correct response. Never consent to a search of your car without a warrant.

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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 07:58:27 AM »
Try that if you're Hispanic in Phoenix.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2013, 10:20:24 AM »
Why not ?
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2013, 10:15:49 AM »
First and best of all I live in Phoenix. My sheriff did a "crime suppression sweep" in my area of town. To get stopped you have to "BRAKE ANY LAW" in front of an officer. A good dark skinned friend from the island of Tonga only had a tail light out to get stopped.  Having a heavy island accent, papers and AZ drivers license, he got a repair order and was on his way in under 20 minutes. Funny part was they kept asking him questions in Spanish, which he doesn't understand. Word got out and for 24 hours you could count on one hand the number of dark skinned people walking or driving around my neighborhood. Guess they didn't have "I.D." If i was looking for Canadians illegally sneaking into the U.S. i wouldn't watch the southern border to close. Same for Latinos, wouldn't think they would be coming from the northern borders to often. Is that profiling? Or simple logic? Sheriff Joe has a term or two left in him. Enforcing the law of the land as it is written without bending to outside pressure is good enough to get my vote. Letting prisoners live better than our armed forces doesn't cut it with me. Its a prison not a resort. They get what the need, not what they want. Plain and simple. If a prisoner doesn't like it, don't do the crime. Bob