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New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« on: May 31, 2013, 02:22:24 AM »
 Marijuana regulations signed into law in Colorado  Published May 28, 2013
Associated Press   DENVER –  A set of laws to govern how recreational marijuana should be grown, sold and taxed was signed into law Tuesday in Colorado, where Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper called the measures the state's best attempt to navigate the uncharted territory of legalized recreational pot.
 
The laws cover how the drug should be raised and packaged, with purchasing limits for out-of-state visitors and a new marijuana driving limit as an analogy to blood alcohol levels. Hickenlooper didn't support marijuana legalization last year, but he praised the regulatory package as a good first crack at safely overseeing the drug.
 
"Recreational marijuana is really a completely new entity," Hickenlooper said, calling the pot rules "commonsense" oversight, such as required potency labeling and a requirement that marijuana is to be sold in child-proof opaque packing with labels clearly stating the drug may not be safe.
Colorado voters approved recreational marijuana as a constitutional amendment last year. The state allows adults over 21 to possess up to an ounce of the drug. Adults can grow up to six plants, or buy pot in retail stores, which are slated to open in January.
The governor said Tuesday he believes the federal government will soon respond to the fact that Colorado and Washington state are in violation of federal drug law. But Hickenlooper didn't have a specific idea of when.
 
"We think that it will be relatively soon. We are optimistic that they are going to be a little more specific in their approach on this issue," Hickenlooper said. Pressed for details, the governor jokingly referred to unrelated scandals surrounding the U.S. Department of Justice.
"They've been kind of busy," Hickenlooper said.
Colorado's new marijuana laws include buying limits for out-of-state visitors. Visitors over 21 would be limited to one-fourth of an ounce in a single retail transaction, though they could legally possess the full ounce.
 
Colorado laws attempt to curb public use of marijuana by banning its sale in places that sell food and drink that aren't infused with the drug, an attempt to prevent Amsterdam-style pot cafes. Food laced with the drug also would have to be to-go orders.
Colorado's laws also include a first-in-the-nation requirement that marijuana magazines such as High Times be kept behind the counter in stores that allow people under 21. That provision has prompted promises by attorneys representing at least two publications to challenge the restriction, which would treat pot magazines similar to pornography.
 
Besides the magazine restriction, Colorado's laws differ in several more ways from proposed marijuana regulations pending in Washington state. Colorado makes no attempt to ban concentrated marijuana, or hashish, unlike Washington. Colorado also has different possession limits on edible marijuana. Colorado also is planning a brief grandfather period during which only current medical marijuana business owners could sell recreational pot.
Both states are poised to require all pot-related businesses to have security systems, 24-hour video surveillance and insurance. One of the Colorado laws signed Tuesday gives state pot businesses a chance to claim business deductions on their taxes, something currently prohibited because the industry is illegal under federal law.
 
Colorado's laws also propose a series of new taxes on the drug. If voters agree this fall, recreational pot would face a 15 percent excise tax, with the proceeds marked for school construction. There would also be a new recreational pot sales tax of 10 percent, in addition to regular statewide and local sales taxes. The special sales tax would be spent on marijuana regulation and new educational efforts to keep the drug away from children.
"Public safety and the safety of our children were at the forefront of our minds," said Sen. Randy Baumgardner, R-Hot Sulphur Springs, the sponsor of some of the pot bills.
Lawmakers and a few dozen marijuana legalization activists on hand to see the pot bills signed into law agreed that marijuana laws will see many changes in coming years if the federal government doesn't intervene.
 
"We are going to be talking about marijuana in the state of Colorado for some time," predicted Rep. Mark Waller, R-Colorado Springs, a sponsor of the stoned-driving law.
Mason Tvert, spokesman for the national legalization advocacy group the Marijuana Policy Project, predicted a lot of states will watch to see how recreational pot regulation works in Colorado and Washington.
"We can regulate the sale of alcohol in a responsible manner, and there's no reason we can't regulate the sale of something objectively less harmful -- marijuana," Tvert said.

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 02:56:32 AM »
The questions remain on what are the major company's that are still in Colorado going to do about
this as far as drug screening. Halliburton is supposed to make an announcement about it sometime
soon. And although Colorado has all but ruined firearms ownership, what is going to be done about
the question regarding the use of pot on the federal form you fill out when purchasing a firearm? 
Are these people going to lie about it?  Are company's going to fire people because a legal
substance shows up in their urine? I don't see company's like Halliburton changing their drug policy's
only for one state division when worldwide they ban pot for everyone else.

With this in mind I can't see how this is going to help Colorado's economy at all.
Rumors from Texas and Duncan Oklahoma are that Halliburton will shut down operations in Colorado
and preform its duties there from out of state. Schlumberger and CUDD have echoed about the same sentiment on this subject. CUDD is going as far as saying it will terminate its Colorado operations
altogether because transient crews and equipment are to expensive to operate. So Colorado you may have gotten your pot, but you are loosing a lot of your higher paying jobs and your guns as a result
 of this. I hope it was worth it.
 
It doesn't take much, Halliburton is already planning to shut down its yards here in NM because of
Its amnesty laws for illegals. They will operate here out of Ector county Texas, stating only that
forced amnesty is an unfair business practice that runs counter to its global company policy's on
hiring qualified people. Its already starting to backfire on these states that are passing ridiculous
laws like this. What these company's are saying is they will hire and employ who they want to,
when they want to, or do business elsewhere. 
 






 

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 03:10:43 AM »
From Anna;
 So Colorado you may have gotten your pot, but you are loosing a lot of your higher paying jobs and your guns as a result
 of this. I hope it was worth it..
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         Win the battle, but lose the war!  With 2 recent rulings the elected imports from Calfornicate may have put the economy of Colorado into a tailspin..but hey; they have their favorite addiction legalized.  ...So what do those rich fat-cats care, since they have their income assured.
   The other ill-advised rule they passed was concerning firearms.  I have been told that since that law was enacted, big game hunting reservations have been cancelled, to the tune of 70%.  That may hurt many guides, ranchers, small town restaurants and motels..but who cares, the fat-cats in Colorado Springs are already rich..they can take the loss of revenue... and stoke up their favorite drug at their leisure.
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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 03:31:59 AM »
IG, the problem NM and Colorado will soon be experiencing for their irresponsible actions lays in
the Laps of the real fat cats, Exxon and Chevron when they can't get their wells properly serviced
and they start losing a 150 barrels per hour on a single well!
Whadda ya going to do when you have a major blowout or drop your tubing down the hole?
Call Jake Leg fishing tools or the three stooges BOP services ?
No, its going to cost you three times as much to get the real people and equipment out there and
fast. I mean they will have to drive from Texas or Oklahoma, meanwhile you well is only getting
worse by the hour or you have a major fire going on burning up all your profits.
Be aware, some of that wonderful cutting edge technology these major service company's have
is still under heavy patents much less the proper personnel to operate it.
And that personal dang sure isn't stoned or an illegal fresh off the farm in Mexico.     
 

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 04:20:56 AM »
I hope they enjoy sitting on the blister they created on thier backside.
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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 04:41:49 AM »
This is what happens when you forget about the law of unintended consequences.
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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 04:58:06 AM »
  That's what happens when drug-befogged minds make laws!
   Let's see drugs OK, Guns bad... Have this marvel of state leadership made any stunning "advances" on the baby-killing scene?  After all, that's the third leg of the Leftie trifecta.. ;) :'(
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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2013, 05:31:54 AM »
The only new laws I care about are tax hikes and ObamaCare, which are about the same things.
 
But I see the pot laws as things that should be legislated by the states. We already know what a mockery federal enforcement is related to the ineffective "war on drugs".

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013, 02:02:47 PM »
The only new laws I care about are tax hikes and ObamaCare, which are about the same things.
 
But I see the pot laws as things that should be legislated by the states. We already know what a mockery federal enforcement is related to the ineffective "war on drugs".


Conan I agree states should be able to legislate themselves. But so should company's owned by
stockholders. If they wish to continue drug and alcohol testing on thier employees then they
should be allowed to do so. If employees or applicants can't get along with that then they can find
another job. Its the same with who they hire, racial quotas should not interfere with them hireing the
best people they can get. No state should be allowed to tell Halliburton to stop testing or
discriminating on who they hire or continue to employ on these basis.
Alcohol is legal but drunks need not apply or operate their equipment or drive their trucks.
That stuff belongs to Halliburton would you hand over the keys to your stuff in the same situation?
Pot is no different.
 


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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 02:08:00 PM »
Like the federal govt..when the Lefties gain control, they seem to go nuts with a wrecking ball.
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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 02:52:00 PM »
Like the federal govt..when the Lefties gain control, they seem to go nuts with a wrecking ball.


But anyone who has watched a wrecking ball knows that if you are not careful and alert as its operator.
It can come back and hit you as well or those around you.
Same thing with a forklift operator, up to six feet of lethal stabbing, smashing, and cutting devises
at the tip of 300hp with hydraulics? And the guy running this is a stoner or a drunk?
Not me I wouldn't want to be anywhere around that situation.
And I don't believe anyone with half a brain would either. 

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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2013, 05:18:00 PM »
Yep! governor " Chickenlooper" is a real piece of work!!
 It is amazing how his attitude changed and his decisions when the big influx of " NYC Bloomberg Money" started to fill his pocket book!! He is  nothing but a puppet for Bloomberg now!
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2013, 09:10:27 AM »
at the tip of 300hp with hydraulics? And the guy running this is a stoner or a drunk?

is there a distinction between a stoner or a drunk, and... someone who smokes MJ, or who drinks? Or does stoner=one who indulges, and drunk=someone who drinks?
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2013, 03:22:25 PM »
at the tip of 300hp with hydraulics? And the guy running this is a stoner or a drunk?

is there a distinction between a stoner or a drunk, and... someone who smokes MJ, or who drinks? Or does stoner=one who indulges, and drunk=someone who drinks?


Ahh, therein lies the dilemma.  ::) 

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2013, 03:32:13 PM »
at the tip of 300hp with hydraulics? And the guy running this is a stoner or a drunk?

is there a distinction between a stoner or a drunk, and... someone who smokes MJ, or who drinks? Or does stoner=one who indulges, and drunk=someone who drinks?
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 Unfortunately, one is already legal..but why did those idiot legislators have to go for "double or nothing"?
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2013, 05:21:31 AM »
is there a distinction between a stoner or a drunk, and... someone who smokes MJ, or who drinks? Or does stoner=one who indulges, and drunk=someone who drinks?
Ahh, therein lies the dilemma.  ::)
No dilemma, just a simple question. The answer, of course, is YES, there is a difference. Lots of people drink alcohol, but would right bristle at being accused of being a drunk who is gonna drive his wrecking-ball rig drunk - and this is well-understood by reasonable people, that drinking does not equate to being a drunk. Same thing w/MJ use... but we're got lots of self-righteous blue-nosed types who deliberately conflate user and stoner, because it fits their ideology... I smell the stench of a buncha modern-day Carrie Nations in that gang. They're the nanny-state/Christian taliban types.
Unfortunately, one is already legal..but why did those idiot legislators have to go for "double or nothing"?
Are you thinking you'd like to see alcohol outlawed, along with keeping weed illegal?
Here is a link to a story from this weeks BARRON'S . Mite be an interesting read.
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748704509304578511261557343002.html?mod=BOL_columnist_latest_col_art#articleTabs_article%3D1
Good read, very rational... which means, it won't make a dent with the Carrie Nations types.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2013, 10:43:53 AM »
is there a distinction between a stoner or a drunk, and... someone who smokes MJ, or who drinks? Or does stoner=one who indulges, and drunk=someone who drinks?
Ahh, therein lies the dilemma.  ::)
No dilemma, just a simple question. The answer, of course, is YES, there is a difference. Lots of people drink alcohol, but would right bristle at being accused of being a drunk who is gonna drive his wrecking-ball rig drunk - and this is well-understood by reasonable people, that drinking does not equate to being a drunk. Same thing w/MJ use... but we're got lots of self-righteous blue-nosed types who deliberately conflate user and stoner, because it fits their ideology... I smell the stench of a buncha modern-day Carrie Nations in that gang. They're the nanny-state/Christian taliban types.
Unfortunately, one is already legal..but why did those idiot legislators have to go for "double or nothing"?
Are you thinking you'd like to see alcohol outlawed, along with keeping weed illegal?
Here is a link to a story from this weeks BARRON'S . Mite be an interesting read.
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748704509304578511261557343002.html?mod=BOL_columnist_latest_col_art#articleTabs_article%3D1
Good read, very rational... which means, it won't make a dent with the Carrie Nations types.


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I've heard all this before from people who have cotton for brains after years of smoking harmless
dobbies. Excess in anything can become a problem just like the Colorado legislation in its careless
approval of this. Keep em stoned because then they won't notice all the other things we are doing
to them. What's next you get arrested for drug evasion?






 


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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2013, 11:48:32 AM »
Michigan has been struggling with the pot thing since the beginning of our new laws here, people ran out to get their "pot cards" then one of our cities decided to try to decriminalize it, causing law suites from the local prosecuter, which tax payers pay for. The laws are unclear in almost every area, so yes it's illegal to be high when you drive, but it's also unclear as to how long it is before you drive after smoking it, THC stays in your system. Now they are trying to regulate who gets to grow it and sell it again because that all got out of control, and of course the feds don't care what the state does, they will bust right in and could care less about your state pot cards. It's a mess for sure here.
Anna brings up a lot of things that are a real problem.
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what is going to be done about the question regarding the use of pot on the
federal form you fill out when purchasing a firearm?  Are these people going to lie about it?
  That's right...there is another problem nobody was thinking about when they got their pot cards. How you going to lie about with a pot card on record? BATF already has asked for those records in this state.
Our state passed this stuff without figuring anything out or looking down the rode to things like drug testing for jobs, federal problems, and what is the level of intoxication if you have an accident with your car. Now there are law suites all over the place on lots of different things.
Didn't work out so well here, all just seems like another mess I get to watch on the news.
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2013, 09:58:53 PM »
     I Would like to thank  the moderator for getting rid of that last post for me. Was trying to post a funny pic and it came out like some kind of hieroglyphics . So now knowing that I can screw that up I am going to try to copy some thing I saw on another site and see if I can screw that up too ??? .  As to drinker and drunks there are a lot of people that like to have a beer or shot or two after work who would never drink on the job or show up to work drunk and every one gos on there happy way with it. Would it be any different  if instead thy went home and had a puff or two? Wile it my be hard to believe it has been going on for a long time by a lot of people and nothing bad has came of it. Not every one who has a drink becomes a alcoholic not every one who has tried pot becomes a drug addict losing control over there lives.                                                                                                                                                            ("One thing I had read was a survey of voters in CO and WA on the type of people that voted to make pot legal. In it it turns out that it wasn't just a bunch of stoners making up 56% of the states that got it passed but moms and dads that voted for it. Most having grown up in the 70's and 80's knew what it was like. Most had tried it at some time, some more then thy may want to admit and knew that all the scare stories that were told to them were false from having tried it.  Now in there 50's and older with kids and grandkids thy could look back and see that the laws did more harm than good having seen friends who had been busted for weed go to jail and lose out on jobs and other thing. Thy also weren't blind to the fact that there kids most likely tried it just as thy had and the grandkids would probably do the same and didn't want to see them have to trough life with it on there record for having smoked weed. Most said that by passing it at the state level may be more states would too and at some point the fed. would have to deal with the fact that pot laws are all out of proportion to what it is and what it dos compared to other drugs and alcohol that are way worse, some of witch come from your Dr. and get resold.

 One thing I like to do when out walking the dogs is to take a bag with me to pick up cans to help fund my hobby's. On the paths going to the jr. high and high school you would be surprised how many 24oz beer cans I find on the path to the high school and energy drink cans and empty Vodka shooters on the path to the jr. high.
 
 How many of you drank beer in high school? How many ever got caught ? What if having been caught it messed up the rest of your life. Would you if given a chance  vote to change that law now, so that knowing that your kids or grand kids would probably be exposed to beer at school and later in life and be tempted to give it a try just like you did wouldn't have to go through what you did? Would you vote to change it so it wouldn't end up screwing up there lives? Is this any different ?
 
 It isn't whether pot or beer or you favorite booze is good  or bad but why the punishment  for having or using them is so different. Think of how many times after a long day you have kicked back with a cold one and maybe a shot and sat around shooting the bull with your buddy's. Now imagine if some one called the cops and had you hauled away, drug you through the court system got you fired from your job, lose your house and most of what you have. And in the same place you got caught drinking every one was smoking pot till thy couldn't stand and the cops just laughed it off as the boys blowing of some steam .  Maybe now many are seeing why more are wanting pot treated like alcohol.")
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2013, 10:06:23 PM »
Anna brings up a lot of things that are a real problem.
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what is going to be done about the question regarding the use of pot on the
federal form you fill out when purchasing a firearm?  Are these people going to lie about it?
  That's right...there is another problem nobody was thinking about when they got their pot cards. How you going to lie about with a pot card on record? BATF already has asked for those records in this state.


 Nobody has to lie on Form 4473 if they have a pot card. Question 11.e asks "Are you an unlawful user of...?"

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Re: New pot regs signed into law in Colorado.
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 02:41:17 AM »
     I Would like to thank  the moderator for getting rid of that last post for me. Was trying to post a funny pic and it came out like some kind of hieroglyphics . So now knowing that I can screw that up I am going to try to copy some thing I saw on another site and see if I can screw that up too ??? .

It wasn't me but here's the forum for testing if you got it right:
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