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 NY school questions airline's actions after 100 students ejected from flight  Published June 05, 2013
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A New York school says they don't feel an AirTran flight crew was justified when they kicked a group of about 100 students and their chaperones traveling from New York to Atlanta off of a plane for alleged bad behavior.
The teenagers, all seniors at the Yeshiva of Flatbush, in Brooklyn, were ordered off the flight around 6 a.m. Monday as it sat at a gate at LaGuardia Airport.
AirTran's parent company, Southwest Airlines, said in a statement that flight attendants asked passengers several times to take their seats and put their mobile devices away. The airline said that when some didn't comply, the captain repeated the request. When that didn't work, either, the whole group of students was ordered to disembark for safety reasons, the airline said.
 
Rabbi Seth Linfield, executive director at Yeshiva of Flatbush, said that administrators are continuing to look into the matter, but that so far he believed adults on the trip who said the students weren't behaving that badly.
"Preliminarily, it does not appear that the action taken by the flight crew was justified," he said in a statement.
Asked whether he thought 100 teenagers were too many to keep in order on a flight, Linfield said the school has taken similar-size groups before without any problems.
Some students posted pictures and video of their journey on social media sites. At least one sent a barrage of Twitter messages to media organizations, complaining that the way they were being treated was a "scandal."
 
Student Jonathan Zehavi  told CNN he felt the students were targeted by the flight crew because they are Jewish.
"They treated us like we were terrorists; I've never seen anything like it. I'm not someone to make these kinds of statements," Zehavi said. "I think if it was a group of non-religious kids, the air stewardess wouldn't have dared to kick them off."
The flight was delayed for about 45 minutes while the students filed out of the Boeing 737, which seats about 137 people, leaving the plane mostly empty.
 
Southwest spokesman Brad Hawkins wouldn't get into details as to why the entire group was kicked out, but said "I have no indication that the flight attendants overreacted."
He said the AirTran cabin crew made "repeated requests" for an unknown number of the students to behave. "The point at which the captain comes on the PA system and says, `You all need to sit down,' is unusual."
The students were on a three-day trip that was to include a rafting excursion and a visit to a Six Flags theme park.
 
The airline ultimately put the students on other flights, but it took 12 hours for some to reach their destination via transfers that took them as far out of their way as Milwaukee.
Linfield said Southwest Airlines offered vouchers to future air travel to faculty and students who were on the plane.
The Associated Press contributed to this report

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Good for airtran. Looks like they handled an unruly mob correctly. If they wouldn't do basic pre-takeoff stuff like shutting off phones, then they could have  posed a real threat by even more bad behavior after takeoff. I for one would not want to be in an airplane filled with people like that.

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As for the kids, I hope this confounded their trip to the degree that it was ruined. Next time maybe they'll do what they need to do to fly.

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IF things were as the airline said then the chaperones evidently were NOT doing their job. For a trip this important I think ejecting those actually misbehaving would have been more appropriate.  POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Just today, Glenn Beck talked about a law passed under Reagan required the residents of any one of 25 nations to be carefully screened before allowing them access to an education in the U.S.  Not only that, they were monitored during their visit for both location and activities.  Guess who abolished that? 
 
Beck was talking about several Muslim students of Muslim descent breaking onto the property of a water reservoir at 1:30 am.  They were simply taking a tour of the facility.  Right. 

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I would lay this at the feet of both the administration and chaperones. By and large students will do exactly as you expect and allow them to do. If you have the idea they are just kids being kids then that is what you will have. If you expect them to be kids acting as young adults then that is what you get, simply make your expectations clear.


I have chaperoned trips of this type. Each chaperone could have quickly identified those in non compliance and required them to be removed.


With the availability of video on nearly every cell phone, if there is any truth to the kids story it will be quite evident.
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It is SO handy to play the Race or Ethic card especially if your group has conditioned the sheeple that way.
 
Good for the Captain !! What goes on and stays in his plane is for him to decide.
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It is SO handy to play the Race or Ethic card especially if your group has conditioned the sheeple that way.
 
Good for the Captain !! What goes on and stays in his plane is for him to decide.




I agree! Makes NO difference what religion or nationality they were. They were given a chance to  behave and they evidently didn't want to and missed their flight. We need to start making examples of these behaviors. Especially in our young people. Look what we have running the country today because we haven't ;)
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Jewish "flash mobs"!!!!
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I agree! Makes NO difference what religion or nationality they were. They were given a chance to  behave and they evidently didn't want to and missed their flight. We need to start making examples of these behaviors. Especially in our young people. Look what we have running the country today because we haven't ;)

Almost word for word what I planned to post after reading the OP!
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NY Jewish kids--a bad combination to control easily.
I said that---I meant that!
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When you are raised fom early childhood that you are special, the Chosen of God and nobody can "touch" you it shouldn't be a surprise.
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When you are raised fom early childhood that you are special, the Chosen of God and nobody can "touch" you it shouldn't be a surprise.

 
HORSEPATOOT. Some were unruly and EVERYBODY paid for it. I bet next plane they sat down, buckled up, and shut up when told. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Horse apples my rump !
You don't think attitude has anything to do with this by being taught they are special??
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Doubtful, more likely because they were raised in NYC.
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     It really doesnt matter what religion they were, as usual a few have ruined for ALL and they should be more serverly delt with when they get back to the school, letting them get away with it will only inforce their attitude that it is OK.   Jim

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     It really doesnt matter what religion they were, as usual a few have ruined for ALL and they should be more serverly delt with when they get back to the school, letting them get away with it will only inforce their attitude that it is OK.   Jim
Now if a couple of the little SOBs had been removed by chaperones and school administrators, only the perps would have suffered. As it is all paid for the actions of a few.


 Is this the zero tolerance horseshit? We dare not call someone on BS lest we have to explain the difference between BS and simple childhood exuberance. Expulsion for a pop tart, a hand drawn picture of a gun, saying the word gun all these considered the equal to actually taking a firearm to school?


Emasculation of school administrators, combined with the pussification of society in general.
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Doubtful, more likely because they were raised in NYC.
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Agreed, that doesn't help either.
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