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Offline YRUpunting?

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Suppressors
« on: June 07, 2013, 04:53:02 PM »
Indiana repealed it's total ban on hunting with suppressors as of July 1.  The thought of cutting my 357 Maxi Handi's to 16-17" and having them  threaded for a suppressor is very appealing. :)  Thing is I don't know anything about suppressors. :(  You gents have a good website or resource to educate myself on suppressors? 

My gut tells me  the reality of a suppressed 357 Maxi won't be as good as desired.  But I do want to explore the idea.

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 05:14:25 PM »
Expect to wait about seven months for Federal Stamp after you get all your paper work done localy. I would think the 357 would do guite nice.
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2013, 02:08:40 AM »
Like you I want one, but after finding out what is involved and the cost of doing it I am out of that hunt for now. Still be really cool. Anyway a local gunshop here in Lafayette, Applied Ballistics, sells suppressors cause it is in indoor range, they have em in stock. Here is the what they told me for a 9mm class suppressor. 200.00 Fed stamp and a 6 month wait for the paperwork to clear BATF, even if I bought one that was in their display case. Oh by the way the cheapest 9mm class suppressor I could find started at around 450.00 and they go up from there. Then there is the threading and the cutting of the barrel. Something I would probably farm out due to the threading part. So add another 50 to 100 depending.
If I did buy one of their in stock ones while I was waiting for the paper work to clear I could use it at their range, but they had to retain possession of it once I left the range until the paperwork came back. Then I could keep it on my firearm and walk out with it. Even if you started now you will not probably have one for this years hunting season. The last item if I recall correctly was there is a 5 dollar transfer fee and it must be registered transfer, if you sold the stamp/suppressor to another person. no private sales...
I would find out more by just going or calling a gunshop that sells them. Applied Ballistics and Down by the Tracks Gunshop in Galveston are the two in my area that carry suppressors and would be able to tell exactly what is involved. I am sure they have web sites up or just visit the frienldy BATF gov site and try and decipher thier arcane instructions.
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2013, 02:51:42 AM »
I know nothing about them so someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't the round need to be subsonic for them to really be effective? Would not a really high speed, high pressure round be very hard on the suppressors ? What is the lifespan for a suppressor before it would need to be replaced or reconditioned ?
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2013, 03:24:50 AM »
Rounds need to be subsonic for maximum effectiveness.  If you load supersonics, you still get the crack, but you gain a lowering of the noise even so.  You can still do a lot with subsonic loads with proper bullets though, look at a .45 auto.  ;)
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2013, 05:33:05 AM »
My suppressed 223 with 20" barrel using supersonic ammo sounded like a LR HV.  The muzzle blast is tamed considerably.  One thing to consider for suppressong the Maxi is that most 9mm/.357 suppressors are designed for 9mm pressures.  A hot .357 Mag or Maxi could cause damage or void the warranty.  It is always best to find out what the device you are lookin at can handle from the manufacturer.  SilencerTalk is a wealth of information once you filter through some mild language and sometimes blind brand  dogma.  There are other sites as well, but this is where I go to do most of my reading.

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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2013, 07:09:10 AM »
Indiana repealed it's total ban on hunting with suppressors as of July 1.  The thought of cutting my 357 Maxi Handi's to 16-17" and having them  threaded for a suppressor is very appealing. :)  Thing is I don't know anything about suppressors. :(  You gents have a good website or resource to educate myself on suppressors? 

My gut tells me  the reality of a suppressed 357 Maxi won't be as good as desired.  But I do want to explore the idea.

Thanks.

I did exactly that.  Look for posts under my name and there is a pic here of my 16.5" handi 357.  I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2013, 08:06:30 AM »
my   9mm can  is fitted to a 357 rossi


i shoot  ONLY 38s......even a    light weight 38  is supersonic and not what i want


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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2013, 08:15:49 AM »
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Re: Suppressors
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 07:06:01 AM »
Lots of good info here.  http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/
On my suppressed AR, the cycling bolt makes lots of noise.  When used on a Contender, it's much quieter.  Subsonic rounds bring the sound even lower.  I plan to thread my 22 Hornet and 223 Hindi barrels to use the suppressor currently used on the AR and Contender.
On the AR, it sounds noisy when you're shooting.  If I let a buddy shoot, and stand a few feet behind, it's not much louder that a small nail gun.
 
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