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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2013, 12:19:14 PM »
CDQ;
  You just described the "fly by night" outfits that nobody should deal woith..they are the ones which would use the lowest grade materials and charge going rate foe them...and their "guarantee" is good until they pull out of the driveway. if the customer is naive enough to pay ahead... they may not see their "crew" again..
  The professional crew will come with recomendations, a history of satisfied customers and a contract ready in his hand.
  You're talking about small scale home construction, but there are other types.  The construction I worked on was generally on tall structures, ranging up to hundreds of feet.  Rigging, ropes and knotselectrical connections and ground composition as well as knoiwledge of concrete bases is of premium importance..or somebody is going to die!  I sure don't need any dope puffer on the job.  Have you ever "cooned" a verticle I-beam, without ropes, belts or rigging?..Dope wouldn't help..
  I had a friend in the business who kept one on his job for a time..probably because he was a brother-in-law.  However, he had to run him off one day, because the doper dropped a 16" Stillson and laughed because he thought it was funny.  It may have been funny, had he not been 200 ft up..and very narrowly missed a ground man!
  Can you calculate a foundation and have it come out within a quarter yard ..on a 30 yard form?  Can you configure and build special tools for special situations?  Can you tune and keep all engines, compressors and generators runniong at peak performance?  Are you fully aware of the Hazmat and EPA rules involved in construction?
  Have you used both 2 and 3 part epoxy finishes?  How about the carbo-zincs..and etching a surface to prep it?  Are you accomplished with PEX?  Are you familiar with shoring trenches so they will pass inspection (and preserve lives).  Hwve you applied rip-rap ?  Arer you quite capable with ac-DC, MIG, TIG and Oxy-acetylene welding?  We don't need dopers messing with that stuff..

   So you see, by "construction", we aren't talking some fly-by-night with a few hammers, saws and a paint roller or two..packed into an old rusty van!
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2013, 02:30:42 PM »
You are probably right, in that venue. However, once you and your guys are done with the more critical parts of the job, and it's down to hanging drywall, gutters, stucco, walkways, landscaping, and siding, even companies like yours are subcontracting to the "fly by night"  people I'm talking about. If they aren't they're going out of business. And, if your guys' way is so great, why are all the bridges falling down? I don't do construction work, other than most of my own home repairs, though I did build my own 30x22 ft garage--- on an existing slab, from my own plans, certified by a state licensed engineer. Mainly, because after talking to my uncle and brother about home "construction crews," I didn't trust them to build it.
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM »
You are probably right, in that venue. However, once you and your guys are done with the more critical parts of the job, and it's down to hanging drywall, gutters, stucco, walkways, landscaping, and siding, even companies like yours are subcontracting to the "fly by night"  people I'm talking about. If they aren't they're going out of business. And, if your guys' way is so great, why are all the bridges falling down? I don't do construction work, other than most of my own home repairs, though I did build my own 30x22 ft garage--- on an existing slab, from my own plans, certified by a state licensed engineer. Mainly, because after talking to my uncle and brother about home "construction crews," I didn't trust them to build it.


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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2013, 02:53:55 PM »
I once knew of a P-3C pilot (PIC, nonetheless) who occasionally indulged. Not while flying, of course... but to some peeps, there's no diff in occasionally indulging in a little pot, and... being a stoner.


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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2013, 03:03:07 PM »
I once knew of a P-3C pilot (PIC, nonetheless) who occasionally indulged. Not while flying, of course... but to some peeps, there's no diff in occasionally indulging in a little pot, and... being a stoner.


wassupwithdat?


OMG he's back! Attention on deck! I wouldn't fly with him he might have a flash back and freak out
or something and try to kill everyone on the plane!  ::)  SIR!!
Psst, hay guys did he bring his white glove this time?   
Or is he talking about a square needle in the left nut during the AFEES exam?






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« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2013, 03:25:52 PM »
I wouldn't fly with him he might have a flash back and freak out
or something and try to kill everyone on the plane!
MJ causes... flashbacks? I wasn't aware. I think someone here is suffering menopausal hot flashes, or something...
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »
I wouldn't fly with him he might have a flash back and freak out
or something and try to kill everyone on the plane!
MJ causes... flashbacks? I wasn't aware.


Sir,wasn't that what the ill informed once said Sir! RCPO Anna M Rice at your disposal Sir!
Sir, that is not what the recruit believes Sir. The recruit was only making a point about how
ridiculous this thread has become thanks to you Sir!
But you did fall for it, you have the sense of humor of a garden slug and the understanding of
a ventriloquist dummy. Did you get a square needle in the left nut Mr.Kerry?
Oh lol, they must have hit your head instead.




 

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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2013, 04:20:46 PM »
CDQ your wanting to close the top and bottom is worthy of the nobel prize. But how do you do it without taking from the man that worked all his life and saved to have the yacht?
I will also say from experence with such people, those that live under bridges will always live under bridges requardless of who you force into the same poor house or steal from to give them more than most working people make.
The gov now is forcing many under the bridge by taken what little they make.
Back on topic.
I have seen what drugs and alcohol will do to people. They leave an unmistakeable trail of distruction in the lives of those on them and those that love them.
Nobody here will deny that. I saw it first hand within my own family and within the families of many friends.
On the job it is a scurge of the worst sort. Many years ago as supervisor on a job I entered a building and saw a man trying to close the back of a high voltage swithgear that he had the panel off of. the swithgear was hot. As he would hold the panel up it would slide sideways and he would fall forward bang off the side of the panel without going through the opening. I grabbed him and got him out of the building, he was so drunk he could just stand. I did not fire him but sent him to a place he could sleep it off. Not right but that was the way then.
A few years later on occasion I would stop by a prison in eastern nc and pick this man up so he could work during the day and go back to prison at night. He hit a car one night on a curvy road in western nc and killed a man. He was driving drunk.
A young man ask me one Christmas if he could leave early. He had been drinking and most on the job had. I let him go, he pick up a friend on another crew and on the way home or where ever he was headed he hit a car with two engineers. All four were killed. That bothers me to this day. Again that was the culture years ago.
With that said. A man that wants to do his thing at home or away is his business. I do not agree with random testing on the job.
If a man is using or drinking on the job, remove him by what means are established. He knows the rules.
If he is driving drunk, the same.
As far as it being legal, billions and billions of dollars later what has the drug war done except make politicians and drug runners rich. Pesonally I dont know what to do.

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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2013, 04:27:43 PM »
Another point you're missing. MOST repetitive, soul killing jobs today require no where near the complete ability of the workers to do them. Some people are never going to give you 100%, no matter what you do, no matter if they are stone cold ,sober. Ask yourselves, does your job take 100% of your ability? If the answer is, "No." then those workers are you.  Foodservice work is that way. Assembly line work is that way. Most construction work is that way. To the point that places where the workers get tested a lot go out of business. It's a new world.
Very good with the false generalizations, I doubt your job requires 100% of your ability.
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2013, 01:36:20 AM »
I should have said "unregulated capitalism." A basically capitalist economy is probably the best--- for individuals. For someone to be on top, in capitalism, somebody has to be on the bottom. All I want is to narrow the middle--- make the top lower and the bottom higher.Well then you can , it's called hard work and making wise choices. Each person has the opportunity to do so. What you fail to realize is in free capitalism you also are free to fail. What you want is no way to fail and restrict those willing to work and produce. What your way will do is stifle and economy. Why do people have to live under the bridge, especially when the top 1% has to decide which yacht they are going to take out?Because one group won't get off their azz and go to work and the other did or at least someone in their family did at some point. It's (and I NEVER say this) sinful.Sinful , yes it is sinful to waste and not produce . However, if you are not familiar with the practices I've described, you don't know how 90% of the work gets done here.I am very educated on how work gets done I have worked more weeks with overtime than with out. I have worked for others and owned a company , You are the one posting things that leads others to believe you have not got a clue.
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2013, 01:48:33 AM »
I completely agree. But the ones who never got off their butts and worked and produced anything are the ones on top, and they are the wasting non-producers, while the workers always end up on the bottom. Stifle the economy? You mean not like it is now?
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« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2013, 02:13:25 AM »
CDQ,Your analogy of Obama being a non producer making it to the top is spot on. However, in the business world, unless a person inherited the business, like the Kennedy's, hard work, a good work ethic will get a person to the top. Thats the way it is. And workers will always be at the bottom. Kinda like the military, private's at the bottom, generals/admirals at the top. If a worker screws up, like the pot smoking operator, punishment should be dealt out. Should we give this guy a medal?gypsyman
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2013, 02:43:01 AM »
What you're not acknowledging is that Almost ALL of the 1% ers inherited the money. Virtually NONE of them started even in the middle class. Oh, and where are those jobs they create?  Even pot heads gotta do something!
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2013, 03:21:45 AM »
CDQ,Your analogy of Obama being a non producer making it to the top is spot on. However, in the business world, unless a person inherited the business, like the Kennedy's, hard work, a good work ethic will get a person to the top. Thats the way it is. And workers will always be at the bottom. Kinda like the military, private's at the bottom, generals/admirals at the top. If a worker screws up, like the pot smoking operator, punishment should be dealt out. Should we give this guy a medal?gypsyman


Its sad that we see a lot of people who worked hard climbing the ladder of succesd. And finally after
years of doing this and taking chanches they finally got to the top.
Then for some reason became involved with drugs and lose it all in a matter of a few weeks.
If they were not like that before much of that explains how they finally made it.
Then it always seems to be a guilt by association thing, someone new came into the picture.


Single people or the more recently divorced with a little money are always the targets.
Both male and female with cocaine or meth being always the common denominator.
They all tell me that they once had smoked pot, but by their early thirtys it became a kid thing that
most people end up growing out of. At first they thought the meth or coke made them feel younger
and more energetic and may have contributed to a somewhat better performance.
But not for long and they fail to see the damages the drugs are starting to cause.


More money less work time, neglect, and mistakes they explained away as someone else's faults.
Even if they hadn't smoked pot in decades, they still remember all the hype attached to the reefer
madness lies they heard as a kid. So based on that they think well why not give this a try they were
wrong about pot. Besides my new girlfriend or boyfriend seems normal enough.
Misinformation in this arena has always been the root problem and it still is. We have taken a
relatively harmless drug no worse than cigarettes and vilified its effects. We always target it first
in drug screening. That these other drugs produce more bang for the buck and are harder to detect
over a shorter period of time. They are smaller in quantity,easier to conceal,and can be taken in
any number of ways without the smell that smoking pot produces.


Even the DEA has come out and admitted that pot has to be taken out of the equation. Along with
an admittance of years of misinformation and paranoia before they can ever be effective in
combating these harder drugs. We always hear about weed, from the media right down to when we
buy a firearm or apply for a job. But use it or not most people know all of that is BS.
So why not try something else or become an alcoholic, those who are supposed to know are wrong
about it and everything else they claim they know about. Why should anyone listen to them?
My friends who just started smoking meth tell me its great, so am I being lied too again like they
did with pot? This mindset is very common among many formerly successful professionals and business owners who then have nothing left. Possibly even arrested , no family, no home anymore,
and a credit score that is totally in collections now. Where 90 days ago they were five star.


And it darn sure wasn't smoking pot that landed them there even if they are smoking it. Or they once wouldn't have made it to the top in the first place.


     




   




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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2013, 03:24:45 AM »
What you're not acknowledging is that Almost ALL of the 1% ers inherited the money. Virtually NONE of them started even in the middle class. Oh, and where are those jobs they create?  Even pot heads gotta do something!

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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2013, 03:41:06 AM »
What you're not acknowledging is that Almost ALL of the 1% ers inherited the money. Virtually NONE of them started even in the middle class. Oh, and where are those jobs they create?  Even pot heads gotta do something!
I know a few 1%.   One started with absolutly nothing.  He worked his butt off and got a college degree, worked his butt and with a combination of his smarts and his hard work became a 1%er.   
The Jobs he created directly were Service jobs.  He owned a few adult toys, He paid a boat captain, and a company to clean the boat.
He was an avid golfer and built a house that included a 9 hole course.  He hired someone to design and build the course, he has a couple people to maintain his course.  As well as a cleaning lady, and a house hold assistant.  (after the kids left home the assistant did the little chores the kids normally did liek takeing the cars to be serviced and washed, house sitting when they were away).  Add to that all the other people to service the equipment for the care of the course as well as sell it. 
Now I know you are going to belittle these jobs as only a few, but these are direct jobs.  He also invested in local companies and believed in it.  So many of the local business that were expanding and were incorperating he invested in so they could expand.  So he was a share holder in many local restaraunts, markets, and stores in the four towns main streets.  So then start looking at all the things the people want that creates jobs from that, 
ANd now comes the well that is only one.  I have been fortunate to know many 1% and most are very nice people that have worked their way up and saved and invested rather than getting instant gradification with a toy  or new something.
Of the 1%'s I have met only one seemed to fit your description of a self important inherited person.  He has a lot of views like you.
A few of the kids of the 1% are driven and do very well a few others think everything should be handed to them and think of the government as a benevolent parent that should take care of the stupid people that can not take care of themselfs.  Not understanding that if you strat giving things away it will have the opposite effect and start making more people not willing to take care of them self and wanting government to feed and cloth them so they can do what ever they want during the day. 
And what you do not see is that while you have contempt for someone that has worked hard and made it or was a lucky sperm and inherited it and you feel they are not deserving of it, there are others out there that see what you have and hold you in contempt for what you have and think you have too much and that you should share it.  At if you get your wish and we get rid of all of the top 10% what you do not realize is at some point you will be a target being one of the top and anyone below you will be willing to steal what you have and we have the Killing fields of Cambodia.  You need to look at history.  Oh and many of the ones that idealized communism and the various forms of socialism were the ones that caught the bullets from the ones that saw communism and socialism  as a way to steal what they wanted. 
 

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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2013, 04:43:40 AM »
Great! I had an uncle that was a chain smoker and alcoholic all his life who lived to be 94, but the vast majority of chain smoking alcoholics don't live nearly that long. Just because you know of one that did it does not alter the fact that most of them inherited their money and power. And when did 1% become 10%? If you'd pay attention, I keep saying that regulated  capitalism is good, in general, for individuals. That's why there are people like the one you know. The top 1% are by and large corpo-communist companies--- the rightys MADE them people, not me. Anyway, I'd think you corpo-communist supporters would WANT people to smoke pot--- the resultant lack of motivation would eliminate part of your competition.
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2013, 05:11:31 AM »
Most of the 1% don't run anything they either pay some else to run their business or to invest their money either way they put others to work.
 I guess you have missed the last 90 years in world economics where capitalism has rebounded to every crisis and communism has failed in every place it has been tried. 
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« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2013, 01:30:24 PM »
It rebounded for the 1%, yes. The rest of us, not so much.
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

"'Cause what they do in Washington, they just take care of number 1. And number 1 ain't you. $__t, you ain't even number 2!" Frank Zappa

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« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2013, 05:19:42 PM »
I continually see a straw man being set up by the potheads. which goes something like this:  " Smoking pot is no worse than drinking alcohol"..
  All I can say is "big deal"..  That's rather like saying.."I hit myself in the head with a brass hammer, surely, that's better for me than using a much harder steel hammer!"
  Why hit yourself with either one?  They are both expensive habits as is the smoking of legal weed!  Go clean, better for you and leaves more dinero in your pocket! ;) ;D
 
  ..And perhaps most important...don't support the killer cartels!!
 
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« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2013, 06:34:01 PM »

 
  ..And perhaps most important...don't support the killer cartels!!
Perhaps we shouldn't create killer cartels with prohibition - remember when we created these?


Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2013, 06:41:57 PM »
If you stoners don't care about yourself, think about...........
 

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« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2013, 06:49:12 PM »

 
  ..And perhaps most important...don't support the killer cartels!!
Perhaps we shouldn't create killer cartels with prohibition - remember when we created these?



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  You will please note;  I didn't try to exonerate alcohol either..so quit making straw men..
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« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2013, 06:51:05 PM »
If you stoners don't care about yourself, think about...........
 

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  So you dig up an old poster... another straw man..
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« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2013, 07:00:57 PM »
  You will please note;  I didn't try to exonerate alcohol either..so quit making straw men..
alright Ironglow, real quick, wrap your head around this - do you blame ALCOHOL for the rise of organized crime in the 1920s? IS that what caused it - alcohol?


Or was it due to Prohibition? We had alcohol long before we had Capone. We got Capone with Prohibition. Think about it.

We're got prohibition right now, diff substance. It's just as stoopid as the 20's prohibition was against alcohol, and nearly as futile.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #85 on: June 14, 2013, 12:06:00 AM »
I really don't understand any of this conversation--it is really immature.
We all know that if you are impaired don't use a hammer or any tool---period.
That is to include impaired by sickness, broken limbs, or any medication or alcohol.
Nothing to hard about that---and---if you do, well, you pay the piper.
All this about prevention starts within the individual---the law only has resources for you to pay the piper and---folks----that is not prevention.
 
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« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2013, 01:51:38 AM »
What about being impaired by religion? There are female RNs who refuse to care for male patients due to their religion. There are MDs who won't work in the ER because their fundy beliefs won't let them take care of alcoholics or drug addicts. Others, MDs and RNs, won't take any pediatric patients who have tattoos, substance abuse problems, or are pregnant, because their religion says such things make the kid an adult, even if the kid is 11 or 12. They are far less than 100% effective in the workplace. Pot use is a very minor consideration, as long as they're not impaired at work.
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

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The Founding Fathers had complete access to the Bible, but they came up with the Constitution as our governing document.

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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #87 on: June 14, 2013, 06:19:22 AM »
People live under the bridge for two reasons they have a mental/physical  problem or they are to lazy to seek help and get a job.
 There are people at the top because they or someone in their family worked.
 The biggest problem with you ideas is you do not include RISK in any way shape or form. The guy at the top who invest assumes risk. He can hopefully weather loss. The low wage guy does not assume that type of risk and won't be rewarded as much. Often risk is rewarded more than hard work as it should be.
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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #88 on: June 14, 2013, 09:40:23 AM »
What about being impaired by religion? There are female RNs who refuse to care for male patients due to their religion. There are MDs who won't work in the ER because their fundy beliefs won't let them take care of alcoholics or drug addicts. Others, MDs and RNs, won't take any pediatric patients who have tattoos, substance abuse problems, or are pregnant, because their religion says such things make the kid an adult, even if the kid is 11 or 12. They are far less than 100% effective in the workplace. Pot use is a very minor consideration, as long as they're not impaired at work.
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  I have never heard of any of those things you are charging against medical people..may happen, but I've never seen any who refuse to treat the sick!  Outside of harming a person or taking a life..I haven't witnessed an RN or Dr refusing to help.  Of course, if you are referring to the religion of Islam, I cannot comment on that !
  If you are speaking of Christians, I think your charges are patently ridiculous, you will have to furnish more proof than a simple accusation..
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)

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Re: Pot smoking operator..
« Reply #89 on: June 14, 2013, 09:42:23 AM »
What about being impaired by religion? There are female RNs who refuse to care for male patients due to their religion. There are MDs who won't work in the ER because their fundy beliefs won't let them take care of alcoholics or drug addicts. Others, MDs and RNs, won't take any pediatric patients who have tattoos, substance abuse problems, or are pregnant, because their religion says such things make the kid an adult, even if the kid is 11 or 12. They are far less than 100% effective in the workplace. Pot use is a very minor consideration, as long as they're not impaired at work.

 
 
 
There are Muslim cab drivers that won't transport fairs who carry booze. What's your point ?
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