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« on: February 23, 2004, 06:08:35 AM »
Some folks here know of my interest in Sasquatch from another board, so I thought it might be interesting to see what the general feeling is on this board. If anyone has experienced odd circumstance while out in the field and cannot contribute such to human or known animal behavior, I would be interested in hearing about it.

I have a bit of history concerning this animal myself and am more than happy to share my own experiences.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2004, 07:01:27 AM »
I have always had one question about this "animal"....if it is as big as the lore says.....and has been spotted from Arkansas to the pacific coast...and considering we find deer carcassas, sheds, etc etc , years after they die.....why is it , that there have been no archeological information to support this animal.  ( Bones , teeth, skull..etc...I mean....the skull should be huge, dense bone, that would take years to decay)
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2004, 07:08:14 AM »
Hi Buckskinner-Hope this one doesn't get turned around like the other.I just posted a responce including what I was told about Big Foot on Marlin Talk.

We were working in a remote region of Idaho on the breaks of the Salmon River at the end of the road,basically a roadless area.Our Wood's Boss who was a Religeous man,and his partner were coming back to camp after sunset one night and reported they had seen what they thought was an eight foot Bear walking on it's hind legs at the edge of our clear-cut.But,it was walking all the time and they questioned  just what they saw.They watched it for only about 3-4 minutes as it stopped and watched back untill it disapeared.

Now I know these guy's and they wern't drinking and I know they saw something.Both haveing hunted all there lives and worked in the woods also all there lives,I know they know what a Bear looks like as I do,and have seen lot's in the woods going to and from work.

I can't say for sure because I never saw it,but I believe them as there was know reason to lie about it,especially after seeing there faces when they got back to camp.

I have mixed opinion's on it,but anything is possible.

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2004, 09:48:11 AM »
Gratman & jaycocreek,

First, I have no plausable explaination for the apparent lack of finding remains as physical evidence. Surely, there must be some out there, but for reasons that no one has yet concluded, the location(s) of such evidence has not been determined so far. It has been suggested over the years that they may hide thier dead, which would account for at least some of the lack of remains being found. Bones and antler sheds can last for quite some time, but most are generally reduced in a few years depending on climate and the types of animals that inhabit a given region. Personally, I have made numerous attempts to determine the whereabouts of remains that might have been "stashed" by still living animals of this type, but have not even managed to stumble onto anything substantial in my efforts. I continue to look each year and it may be that if there are any pieces out there, I could come across something of interest, time will tell.

Jayco, I recall that account from your previous post of it on another board. It is interesting to note that it is ver batum to the first account on this second telling.

There are many unanswered questions where this animal is concerned, and they may never be answered. However, the first hand accounts of encounters and the tangible physical evidence associated with them continues to be reported each year.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2004, 09:48:34 AM »
Buckskinner,

Feel free to post your experiences that pertain to Sasquatch or any other of your outdoor experiences.  They are finding new species and supposedly extinct species (not infrequently) of fish, insects and animals all over this world.  I have never seen an angel or God but I believe.  

If I don't believe I won't tell you.  Nuff said!

I would like to ask all concerned to try and keep opinions down whether yea or nay and to relate experiences.  If we can do that this should be a very interesting set of experiences.

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2004, 11:01:08 AM »
Buckskinner-If you have an Idaho Map,find McCall come towards New Meadows just a hair and head for Goose Lake past the ski hill and continue on that road past Hazard Lake to the end.It goes from 1800 ft at the Salmon River to over 8,000 ft in a hurry and it's really unsceen and very remote country.If there around,that's aplace know one would find them.

Another one I never mentioned before at Pilot's Peak just North of the South Fork of the Salmon below Warren on the way to Big Creek.There have been many including the Forest Service that have walked out from the Look-out because of things they can't identify that appear on the edge of the timber below the look-out.My wife has testimony to that also.Wild country.Even someone I logged with said he would never go back after he killed an Elk late and had to spend the night right there.

Sometimes things happen that you don't talk about because of the flack you might get.

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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2004, 11:51:54 AM »
Buckskinner...

I meant no disrespect in my comments.....I was educated as a Geologist, and have , over the years , learned to appreciate what the fossil record tells us...and DOES NOT tell us.   Sometimes lack of evidence or fact , can be as powerful as anything else.   I have always kept, and will continue to keep, an open mind about these creatures.    Like it was stated earlier, new species are found each year.  Most because of their remote habitat, some out of oversight.   Perhaps this animal is so elusive, and private, it has indeed found a way , and is smart enough to hide remains of their kind , to ensure their survival.   Hopefully one day , we will know.

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2004, 12:39:05 PM »
Buckskinner,

Good to see you,  I look forward to reading of your continuing adventures
as you look for Bigfoot.  Personally, I consider myself a pretty much down to earth guy.  I do however believe that something must be out there, as too many reports, some containing recordings that seem authentic, come to light for me to think otherwise. Makes me wonder how many of these go unreported because people are afraid of ridicule.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2004, 01:26:53 PM »
Gratman,
Your post was businesslike and to the point, no disrespect could be had in it. I appreciate your thoughts.

Jayco,
I have all of my maps packed up at this time in preparation for moving this weekend, but as soon as I can, I will take a look at the location that you mentioned.

By the way, did any of you folks here about the sighting at Spaulding, not far from Lewiston Idaho in 92? Observed by several witnesses for around 30 minutes, but no body was brave enough to try to get close enough for a positive I.D. (can't blame them for that, but a well armed man should be confident enough to try)

Hopefully things this year here in eastern Washington will be productive. I am anxious to get out and start looking around again.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2004, 03:35:43 PM »
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I have always had one question about this "animal"....if it is as big as the lore says.....and has been spotted from Arkansas to the pacific coast...and considering we find deer carcassas, sheds, etc etc , years after they die.....why is it , that there have been no archeological information to support this animal.  ( Bones , teeth, skull..etc...I mean....the skull should be huge, dense bone, that would take years to decay)


I saw a documentary a few years back and they talked about this. They talked to one man who said there were numerous small airplanes that had crashed in the pacific northwest that have never been found. There are also hundreds of thousands of acres of forest that man has never set foot in because of no trails or access roads. He also went on to say something about it being rare to find a carcass of a bear and we know how many of them are out there. If you ever see this on tv or video make sure you watch it. I believe Leonard Nimoy(Spock) did the narrative in it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2004, 07:12:52 PM »
10 ga.

As I read your post , I can see exactly what you mean.  I have walked over hundreds of acres of Shannandoah national Forest, and all through the Smokies, and you are correct in your analogy, I have never seen a large carnivour carcass.  Highway kills only.  No natural deaths. No big cougars, or black bears.  Just another reason to keep my mind open to suggestion.  Thanks for the post.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2004, 07:21:58 AM »
This is my first post to this "forum" I may make a few errors, apologise in advance, don't know most letter combination short forms. As for the evidence of "bones" how many carcasses of dear and bears and other critters do we come accross in the bushvery few and around here they'res alot of bears and such. Saquatch may hide dead "read bury" this would make it hard to find unless by accident.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2004, 08:36:18 PM »
I'll have to agree with the lack of finding the remains of bear and lions.  I'm in the mountains more than anyone I know of, and I have never found one of either that died of natural causes.
I've packed for over 30 years all over the west, I not only have my horses to tell me what is around me, but at least one dog as well.  I never really thought about it before, but I have never found a single one.
As far as the mountains aof the north west.  Some of them are very nasty, steeper than the Rockies.  I'v had a few discussions with folks from the east that have never seen the Trinity Alps.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2004, 01:22:15 PM »
I can share a story but can't say it was big foot..!! It's funny that after 25 years there are things in life that you just don't forget! I was in the 6th grade in wv and my friend and I use to ride bikes in the woods all day long. I remember riding and ramping on some old logging roads and I got a strange feeling that I was being watched and occasionally, I would just stop riding and look around, then ride some more. I didn't hunt much but liked to play in woods and creeks, never had a reason to be scared,  I rode down a path and heard something behind me. I stopped and looked over my shoulder and 50-75 yards away (the woods were hard woods, not alot of brush or pines) I saw a dark fury head/torso peak around a tree at me. I looked at it, or we looked at each other and I wondered what it was because I never saw an animal look like that! I was 6-7 ft tall and I actually thought it might be someone in a costume or suite! I yelled for my friend to get the hell out dodge!! I pedaled hard and fast, never looked back!! Was it a bear? NO..! What was it?? I don't know to this day but I will never forget it!!  :eek:

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2004, 01:12:19 PM »
Have you ever been in the woods and got the feeling you were being "watched". You know you get that funny little itch that goes up your back? There is a spot on the sabine River that I hunt and everytime I went there I had that feeling.  It it posted under Strange things in the woods. sub heading "How I got into this big foot thing . Take a look and tell me what ya think?
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2004, 01:33:27 PM »
Look at any map of Sasquatch sightings and you'll likely see the area of central British Columbia noted. The area west of Williams Lake, in the Chilcotin Region.
I remember about 1971, when my parents and I vacationed up there, and we stopped at Nimpo Lake. This small gas station/restaurant had its share of old loggers and woodsmen.
One day, we heard them laughing at some writer who had come there in search of Sasquatch. They pumped him full of Sasquatch stories --- none of them true --- and let him go away satisfied.
To this day, I still see sightings marked on that area of British Columbia. Dad had a cabin built near Nimpo Lake in 1972 and we were up there nearly every year. Never heard ONE Sasquatch story from the locals, but the books are full of them.
Do I believe in Sasquatch? I used to, when I was more impressionable. Now I have serious doubts.
After all, if Sasquatch really existed the Democrats would have signed him as a voter, especially since he has no permanent address, can't speak English or know enough to punch a hole in a paper card without leaving the little tab (chad) hanging!  :-D
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2004, 07:57:05 AM »
I for one, will not ridicule Buckskinner....just because I haven't seen one, that doesn't mean they don't exist.
   It is possible that I may have done some good natured kidding on the subject, but I won't ridicule.
 
   The jury is out for me!
 
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  This "close encounter" was at about 75 yards and the craft was larger than a locomotive...
   That's all I'm saying...just take it or leave it...

  I have related the whole story to perhaps 2 or 3 close friends.....folks who KNOW I don't lie...

    Beyond that, I don't want a ration of ridicule, so I won't relate...

  I can understand where Buckskinner is coming from
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2004, 01:23:01 PM »
I can tell ya about Siskwatch.  Ugly as sin, about 6' 12" tall and skinny as a rail.  She (its a she) runs thru the woods nekkid as a jaybird and whooping like a big bird all through the night.  I ain't never seen her myself, you understand, but my uncle Bernie has and I know he'd never lie to me.  I'm gonna git me some of them there "night binocewlers" and go out look'n fer her  right after deer season.  Deer season ain't a good time, word is (uncle Bernie sez anyway) that she hunkers down during the deer season cuz of all the shoot'n and don't really start to move around again until about a week after the season ends.  That's why they ain't too many hunters that've seen'er.  I'm also gonna git me a dijitul camera and bring home some photoes.  Keep look'n here fer more updayts.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2004, 04:26:15 PM »
GATOFEO. If the dumcraps thought they could sign em up they'd find bigfoot.
BUCKSKINNER. I remember your posts on this elsewhere and believe in your sincerity. I've read that elephants hide their dead, and hiding the bodies may be a plausible explaination as to the lack of a body or bones of a bigfoot. The only evidence of dead deer I've ever seen was where 2 bucks died with their antlers locked together. A couple of years ago I was fishing at my pond when I heard a squall of some kind not far behind me. I've spent much of my life in one woods or another in ILL and KY and never heard a sound like it. The sound sent a chill through me and made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I slowly turned around and unholstered my pistol, that sgl six NEVER felt so small. I saw nothing. I hope you find him. POWDERMAN. :D  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2004, 09:23:38 PM »
It gets hard to separate fact from fiction when it comes to bigfoot, especially since hoaxing is a full-time hobby for some folks in the Pacific Northwest.  My high school chemistry teacher would spend his weekends and evenings coming up with new ways to create "evidence" of bigfoot.  With his science background, he knew how to show investigators what they wanted to see.  Biological supply houses that furnish specimens to labs were a favorite source for difficult to identify hairs and fecal material.  His faux-feces were often a combination of scat from several different animals, mixed in his kitchen and baked dry in his oven after carefully forming convincing little poop-patties.  His wife is a shining example of tolerance in marriage, that's for sure.

After a full weekend of hiking into the boonies to plant "sign" in remote areas (but not so remote that nobody would see his handiwork), he would check the papers for news of the latest Sasquatch evidence.

Heck, it's actually against the law to kill a Sasquatch in at least one Washington county, but I suspect that the law exists for the same reason as the hoaxers.  It draws attention (and tourists).  I'm not saying that the Bigfoot legend isn't rooted in fact, I'm just saying that it takes an awful lot of checking before I'll accept any new "evidence".  

One of these days, somebody needs to find some bones, hopefully at least one complete skull, or catch a live one, if they're out there.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2004, 05:21:46 AM »
im pretty sure it wasnt bigfoot but ive had some weird experiences with 4-legged creatures in a canyon not far from my bud's house....the thing is everytime i see it he does too so something is there for sure

i live in western Nebraska so theres not much talk of forest creatures around here but i still believe bigfoot could exist....reading your stuff about finding the remains would definately help prove he does exist but i bet the reason we find sheds and other animal remains is because their population is alot greater than the bigfoot(s)

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2004, 04:06:21 AM »
Quote from: Buckskinner
Some folks here know of my interest in Sasquatch from another board, so I thought it might be interesting to see what the general feeling is on this board. If anyone has experienced odd circumstance while out in the field and cannot contribute such to human or known animal behavior, I would be interested in hearing about it.

I have a bit of history concerning this animal myself and am more than happy to share my own experiences.

HI buckskinner :D

  go to strange things seen while in the outdoors. this site on down towards the bottom of the forum page. We have a very lively, and some of us has seen him to (Bigfoot, Sasquatch, ) what ever one wants to call him. I think all of the questions posted on this site, we have discussed on our site.

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2004, 09:14:49 AM »
I don't know if Bigfoot is real or not (I kinda doubt it though), but I do know that the thought of him scared the !@#* out of me as a kid in the late 60's and 70's.  All the movies and shows that came out on Bigfoot in the early 70s had an impact on me especially because we were living in Wisconsin's north woods at the time and I had a vivid imagination.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2004, 04:13:00 AM »
I personally think there is no such creature. The complete lack of physical evidence is compelling enough for me to put the Bigfoot thing in the hoax and or wild imagination category.

Yes, new species are found everyday and creatures thought to be extinct somehow reappear. But lets put this into perspective. The new species being found by scientists are in the vast majority of cases, insects. These insects are usually found in very remote areas. A creature the size of an insect that has been able to keep hidden from science in a remote area is hardly a compelling reason to belive in Bigfoot. And species once thought to be extinct that reappear, well so what. This has no baring on the issue of Bigfoot since Bigfoot has never been known to be a real.

Come on, we can find bones and fossil records for creatures that have been extinct for thousands of years, but we can't find a single bone on a Bigfoot !! With all the modern listening and tracking devices offered by modern technology, and we still can't find one of these creatures !!
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2004, 03:27:59 AM »
I must disagree with you Sir, This anamal IS out there in the world. Like you I thought it was a fairytale myself. I have hunted and fished up and down the Sabine River, all my life and never seen anything like a bigfoot. Heck not even so much as a bear, eventhough they are out in the river bottem's here. But I have seen something that can only be described as a  6-7ft primate, stalk and kill a hog with it's bare hands.  There has to be something to this thing. Way to many good stable people have seen something they can't explane. And this bigfoot thing is not a new find, people have been seeing it for the past 500 years, long before the Gimlin film was made.  I don't know of any hoax that could be maintained that long.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2004, 03:56:47 AM »
You are right Cabin,all land Mammals of that size are known.Where is Bucky,anybody hear from him.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2004, 12:30:47 AM »
We haven't heard from ole BuckSkinner for a while.  I hope is is OK.

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« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2004, 07:18:14 PM »
Hi gang :D
   To all of you that dont believe but do have an open mind, I would like to recommend an excellent documentar called ( when legend meets science). It usually comes on the Discovery channel. Just check your listings, and the next time it comes on I`ll try to let you know.
   But basically it took the patterson film, and run it through the ringer, trying to disprove it. and it totally proved that the animal was real and a Bigfoot. Excellent docu.

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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2004, 07:57:57 AM »
Hi, guys
I'm kinda new here.  I registered a long time ago but don't know if I ever posted.

I saw a bigfoot about a year ago as I was towing a trailer full of junk to the dump.  It was standing in some scrub pines about 200 feet off the road.  It looked to be about 7 or 8 feet tall judging by the height of the pine trees.  I stopped my truck and watched it for about three minutes.  It didn't seem to see me.  I blew the horn and it looked at me then disappeared.  Now I don't mean it ran off it just plain friggin disappeared.  It seemed to disappear into itself like when you used to turn off the old tube type televisions.  It just shrunk into itself.  No animal can do that.  Me and a friend came back that afternoon with guns but all we saw was a trampled down area.  No footprints.  This happened last july a year ago.
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Bigfoot evidence
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2004, 03:54:46 PM »
Quote from: cabin4
I personally think there is no such creature. The complete lack of physical evidence is compelling enough for me to put the Bigfoot thing in the hoax and or wild imagination category.

Yes, new species are found everyday and creatures thought to be extinct somehow reappear. But lets put this into perspective. The new species being found by scientists are in the vast majority of cases, insects. These insects are usually found in very remote areas. A creature the size of an insect that has been able to keep hidden from science in a remote area is hardly a compelling reason to belive in Bigfoot. And species once thought to be extinct that reappear, well so what. This has no baring on the issue of Bigfoot since Bigfoot has never been known to be a real.

Come on, we can find bones and fossil records for creatures that have been extinct for thousands of years, but we can't find a single bone on a Bigfoot !! With all the modern listening and tracking devices offered by modern technology, and we still can't find one of these creatures !!



Cabin4 take a look at (Norka of Akron) http://www.geocities.com/saqatchr/index3.html

Then go to the bottom of the page to (Giants and bones)

this web site has a lot of what you want to see as in evidence and pictures. I believe that he is out there and some day there will be the evidence to prove it. My son saw a baby one  when he was delivering news papers early one morning in central IL. in Cumberland Co. He said it was about 3' tall and walked just like a human. I think you will enjoy reading what is on this site + he has a picture of him standing with a femur that was dug up during road construction in Eastern Turkey. Also there was a guy who like to hike a lot out in Oregan and he said he had been hiking for about 5hrs and he was in creek and he heard the sound of rocks clicking and as he aproached the sound he stoped at about 75yrds and there was 4 Bigfeet two adults and two young ones burying a dead bigfoot by piling rocks on top of the dead one to cover it up.