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Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« on: June 12, 2013, 05:39:28 AM »
Obamacare Rate Shock: Premiums to Skyrocket 88% in Ohio         Obamacare Rate Shock: Premiums to Skyrocket 88% in Ohio    Kyle Becker   Obamacare is barely implemented and it’s already bleeding Americans dry. Let’s forget about the trillions long-term it’s now forecast to add to the debt (no moon yogurt accounting here), let’s talk about the pain and havoc it’s creating now.
The Washington Times reports, people with calculators and fifth-grade math skills decide:
 
The
Ohio Department of Insurance predicts premiums in 2014 will rise by 88 percent, a direct result of President Obama’s Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
The average cost of insurance premiums will stand about $420, “representing an increase of 88 percent” compared to 2013, the department reported, Forbes said.
 
“We have warned of these increases,” said Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor, in a statement reported by Forbes. “Consumers will have fewer choices and pay much higher premiums for their health insurance starting in 2014.”
Rates in August 2011 for Ohio residents were projected to increase between 55 percent and 85 percent. By March of 2013, those cost hikes had whittled to an 81 percent prediction. [...]
The Department of Insurance still has to approve the proposed rate hike, Forbes said. I might already be getting senile in my thirties, but I don’t recall the Dems promising skyrocketing premium rates when they pitched that economy-killing bill known as Obamacare. In fact, the fools who dubiously acted like they read it said it will lower the deficit and even improve your golf swing.
 
Oh sure, the Democrats will promise you the moon sliced up like pieces of Camembert cheese with soda crackers on the side if you’ll only vote for them. But even my three year old knows that astronomically tall tales are just that; he suspends his disbelief on purpose, not because he’s an adult who refuses to grow up and get a clue.
So why should Democrats be surprised when insurance premiums and healthcare costs go into upper orbit? Because they are worse than childlike when it comes to trusting the U.S. government.
 
The only thing that may salve the pain of standing in line to get a prostate exam from the icy clawed Kathleen Sebelius will be the schadenfreude of witnessing the dumbfounded look on Democrat voters’ faces as their treatment gets rationed or they have to wait months for a simple procedure. Hey, the truth hurts; and if you’re an idiotic voter, it’s gonna hurt even more soon.
   
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 08:41:53 AM »
 At first i wanted to say "Good", that'll teach em and everyone else,, why this ISN'T gonna work. Then i remembered that about 50% of the populace will get their care for free, or signifigantly subsidized.(By those who pay) and i realized how screwed we(who care) are.  :-X
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 09:41:07 AM »
What part of Affordable healthcare and redistribution of wealth did "you" not understand? The simple answer is DUHHHH!  ::)
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 11:18:42 AM »
I wonder if some of these dummycrat voters will finally see the light when they're dying (because there are no doctors left) in debtor's prison (because they couldn't afford to buy health insirance)?

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 11:33:57 AM »
I wonder if some of these dummycrat voters will finally see the light when they're dying (because there are no doctors left) in debtor's prison (because they couldn't afford to buy health insirance)?

No need to worry about "debtors prison.
When they need medical care they can't afford ,,I'm sure the government panel that decides who is worthy of care will see that they are not one of the "worthy " ones.
So they just won't get the care.
No cost no worry!

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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 02:12:34 PM »
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-health-insurance-premiums.php

The existing parts of the law already in effect forbid the companies from raising their rates more than 10%. And, the projected dollar costs  (about $420) per month are less than what I pay now--- and I work for a self-insured hospital. The whole point of the law is to force for profit insurance companies out of the health care business.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 02:27:46 PM »
Pattys former heart dr locked his doors several mo ago because of obummercare, many more to follow I'm afraid. All part of husseins plan to destroy us. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
Some docs with overblown egos would rather let people die than take a smaller piece of the pie...   The "greatest healthcare system in the world" (And by that, I mean the most expensive--- you can get BETTER healthcare than in the US, but you certainly can NOT pay more!) at work.  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 02:40:17 PM »
It's okay.  It's what America wanted.  So many deadbeats can vote.  Hispanic, black, Muslims, they all need health care.  It's the way it is.  And unless you be fooled, it's only going to get worse.  Socialism is here to stay.  It's not even the first step we've taken into destruction.  Very few items are left for the conservative.  Gay pride, abortion, acceptance of any broadcast that has filth as it's basis, the election of a Muslim, the lies from every corner of government, the condemnation of Christianity, all are part of what the nation currently is. 
 
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 02:43:17 PM »
Like Bill Maher says: the rightys could absolutely STEAL the next election--- run on legalizing pot!
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 04:48:48 AM »
suddenly it looks as though "Affordable" health care ain't gonna be so affordable.


anyone ever check into what "Affordable" means under the AHCA?


one source said: "Every month, this guy will cut a check for $143.00...sounds great...but it has $5000.00 deductible attached to it so he;s going to have to spend $5000.00 from out of his pocket on health care before the insurance kicks in."


good grief...almost 8 years ago, my premiums were nearly $600.00 per month...what would they be now? i shutter to think about it...


affordable? to those who make megabucks...yeah...


i suspect that the AHCA will soon be negated or at least so weakened it will be not effective.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2013, 04:52:34 AM »
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The whole point of the law is to force for profit insurance companies out of the health care business.


Thanx to Chung for this admission of the truth! It's not about health care it's about socialism, plain and simple!
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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2013, 04:52:35 AM »
Didn't Obama carry Ohio in the election? Hooray for them! They got what the asked for.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 05:02:26 AM »
     The mere fact that the POTUS sold this law on the 2 statements of if you like your Dr. you can keep him/her and it will reduce the cost of Insurance were and are both LIES should be reason to not let it go thru.  Jim

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 05:11:26 AM »
To the low information voter this debacle was about free healthcare. To the liberal it was about feeling good about everyone getting healthcare. To the taxpayer who is going to foot the bill for this scam its about paying for it! To no one including the clowns that wrote it was it ever about healthcare, Notice they didn't include themselves in it! Its about loosing liberty and Quality healthcare for those who used to have it! Welcome to barrycare ! Brought to you by your Democrat controlled Senate!
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 05:59:17 AM »
To the low information voter this debacle was about free healthcare. To the liberal it was about feeling good about everyone getting healthcare. To the taxpayer who is going to foot the bill for this scam its about paying for it! To no one including the clowns that wrote it was it ever about healthcare, Notice they didn't include themselves in it! Its about loosing liberty and Quality healthcare for those who used to have it! Welcome to barrycare ! Brought to you by your Democrat controlled Senate!

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Re: Obummercare will raise Ohio premiums by 88 %.
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2013, 07:11:50 AM »
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-health-insurance-premiums.php

The existing parts of the law already in effect forbid the companies from raising their rates more than 10%. And, the projected dollar costs  (about $420) per month are less than what I pay now--- and I work for a self-insured hospital. The whole point of the law is to force for profit insurance companies out of the health care business.


there has to some profit doesn't there? what's the purpose of ANY business? there has to be profit or else they couldn't remain in business. it's called "Capitalism". when profit is NOT permitted you have what is called "Socialism, Marxism, fascism, communism"


if health care, or any other social "need" is taken over by taxpayer funded entities...it's called "Socialism" is it not? and IIRC, there's never been a lasting socialistic program that is/was successful without becoming dictatorial.


capping the rate increases are one thing...but taking the industry over is another and we're seeing the results: a highly inefficient government sponsored/ran, extremely expensive operation...and guess who will foot the bill?


a community hospital nearby where i live went bankrupt because of the high population of illegal immigrants could not pay their medical bills...should the taxpayers be required to pick up the tab?
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 08:07:39 AM »
Then you DON'T remember correctly--- socialized medicine programs are successful all over the world.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 08:35:50 AM »
Two clarifications:  1) The Congress is made up of two bodies--the House of Representatives and the Senate.  2)  Congress is not exempt from the provisions of the "Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare).


Part of the act demands that insurance companies pay at least 80% of their premiums in benefit reimbursements.  Now, if that cuts into the expenses, salaries and profits of the insurance company, what would be the natural result.  That's right, premiums will go up.  Insurance companies are in business to make money.  Of course there are HMOs which are supposedly non-profit.  Will they be disproportionately unaffected by this moronic legislation?  Since I belong to an HMO, I sure hope that is the case.


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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 10:29:19 AM »
I stand corrected magooch I was laboring under the misconcepttion that they had exempted themselves. Well at least they can share the in the socialized medicine debacle!
 
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/congressional/Factcheck_Congress_exempt_from_Obamacare.html
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 10:55:52 AM »
I see the local Obamacare disinformation officer is hard at work again in this thread. Ironically he said he was leaving in another thread and yet here he is!. Funny how my healthcare premiums went up by about 25% recently when they were only allowed to raise them 10%.
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 12:04:00 PM »
I see the local Obamacare disinformation officer is hard at work again in this thread. Ironically he said he was leaving in another thread and yet here he is!. Funny how my healthcare premiums went up by about 25% recently when they were only allowed to raise them 10%.

 
YEP. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 01:24:17 PM »
I just can't stand by and let ignorance take over. Read the first line of my sig. I know I'm not going to change many minds here--- but maybe I can make a few uncomfortable enough with their beliefs that they will start to look for facts...


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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2013, 01:37:50 PM »
It's okay.  It's what America wanted.  So many deadbeats can vote.  Hispanic, black, Muslims, they all need health care.  It's the way it is.  And unless you be fooled, it's only going to get worse.  Socialism is here to stay.  It's not even the first step we've taken into destruction.  Very few items are left for the conservative.  Gay pride, abortion, acceptance of any broadcast that has filth as it's basis, the election of a Muslim, the lies from every corner of government, the condemnation of Christianity, all are part of what the nation currently is. 
 
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 04:31:07 PM »
Then you DON'T remember correctly--- socialized medicine programs are successful all over the world.
"Successful" is only a matter of opinion.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 05:12:45 PM »
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And y'all KNOW you'd miss me!  ;D ;D ;D

 
Speaking only for myself, NO, I wouldn't anymore than a migraine. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 12:47:41 AM »


And y'all KNOW you'd miss me!  ;D ;D ;D

Miss you?
Why would we "miss you"?
You said in a temper tantrum back on 6/4/2013 that you were out of here.
And yet here you are!
Who was it that asked you to come back? ???
 

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 01:10:59 AM »
There were some. My "temper tantrum" was actually disgust at the universal experts on here trying to tell me how things work in an area that has been my profession (ONE of them) for 18 years. But, I decided it was unfair to the few open minds here to desert them just because so many others have lost their humanity. If you are one of those: Chaos, Consternation, and Confusion--- if you're feeling that, my work here is going well!  ;)
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 04:24:20 AM »
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If you are one of those: Chaos, Consternation, and Confusion--- if you're feeling that, my work here is going well!  ;)

That is just what is needed to get you outta here! I'll look into that!
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 06:19:05 AM »
. My "temper tantrum" was actually disgust

So then it wasn't just a childish tantrum where you said something you didn't mean.
It was "disgust" and you saying something as to "cut your nose off to spite your face ' thing?
Don't worry about it.
I've done that a few times ,,,the only difference is that I followed through with my remarks.
I was taught if I shot off my mouth,, I better back it up.
I see you had a different up bringing.
Oh well. it takes all kinds ...eh?