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Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« on: June 12, 2013, 08:10:51 AM »
Dear Guys,


   I am about to start coyote hunting in a pretty dog rich area.  There are 60 acres of hardwoods, with a one acre field cleared right in the middle of it.  (Intentionally, for deer hunting).  The field is in knee high clover and alfafla. Very small pond from a levee nearby.   Lots of turkey and deer also.  All of this is surrounded by farmland and mixed woods.


   I have a stand at one end of the field.  The field is about 120 yards long, by 80 yards wide.


   My strategy is to overload that one acre with multiple lures, and then to start sounding a wounded rabbit call.


   I'm thinking, a robot wiggling rabbit machine, plus rabbit scent poured all over it,  and maybe 10 yards from that, a fake fawn, and maybe ten yards from that, a fake turkey, and maybe 10 yards from that, some hot chicken grease poured over a furry lure.   These would be in a random pattern, not spaced out in any sort of line.


  I'm hunting Eastern coyote, in an area where I don't think they've been hunted much.  Appear to be alot of fox in the area as well.




  Any predictions of what might happen if a coyote or fox comes to the call?  Will the overload drive him crazy and make him plunge out into the field, or will it scare him off?   I've been around domestic dogs my entire life, and I've noticed that when they get worked up into a frenzy, they simply cannot control themselves.  They get hyperactive and reckless.




  Thanks for all opinions.




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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 09:04:58 AM »
Wow you're mad at em huh?
 
Seriously, any one of those "lures" will do the job. How many shooters are you gonna have? my concern is overkill. One thing I have noticed is that you have to change presentation and position, unless you kill all that show up. They catch on quick and if one shows and gets shot at , it wont likely fall for "the banana in the tailpipe trick" as easily the next time. Their prime defense is "winding" and running, keep that in mind.
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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 05:50:40 AM »
  Worse than that, the State game department has estimated that during the month of June every year, more than 50% of newborn fawns in Rockingham County, VA, are eaten by black bears!  There is one that roams this property, always showing up on the game cameras.  Too bad I will have to just let him go.


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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 09:44:15 AM »
Wow that is an amazing statistic!  :o  50% jeeez. I'm sorry, but I would have to S.S.S. that bear! I have nothing against bears, dont even wanna hunt one, but a bear on my place causing damage like that would have to be eliminated. If bears are getting 50 % and coyotes some too, you have a problem friend. At least clear out the song dogs. Get that decoy and caller going, and they will come! Elevate and call and dont let one walk. A closed blind will help with the winding.
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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 12:58:32 PM »
My concern with a lot of decoys would be stinking up the field while you putting them out.


I did have some luck with a wiggle rabbit and a few crow decoys off to the side.
I figured the crows would offer a "nope, no hunters here" atmosphere.


Consider a can of cheap dog food in a single knee-high woman's hose hanging from a limb so the breeze can carry the scent.
Hasn't worked for me yet, but I have only tried it a couple of times; not very legal in some places, like here.


This time last year I would put a wiggle rabbit, but also do a turkey assembly call. Assembly means the young poults are scattered, easy pickings. My logic was that turkey poults can get scattered every so often, but a rabbit can really only die once. I'd be there right now, but we gave up the lease.
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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 06:38:03 AM »
  Thanks for the advice.  My purpose of putting out the fake turkey and fawn was, that it does kinda create an atmosphere of "this is natural", "no hunters here,  "look, not even the turkey or fawn cares."   I know that a coyote would love to eat a turkey or fawn, but I don't know if they ever try to stalk up on one, or run one down in an open field.  Maybe not.




   I guess another thought was, that once the coyote comes into the field, I want him to be distracted by the fawn and turkey decoys, looking at them, and not looking up in the tree stand for me.  So, they are not really "lures" per se, but just distractors.




   As for the black bears, apparently when the doe gives birth, the smell of the blood and afterbirth tissue really carries on the wind, and a bear can smell it a mile away and just comes running!


    Thanks, Mannyrock

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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 12:09:32 AM »
IMO I'd just start out with one. If they are in fact under little to no pressure you'll be surprised at what kind of action you're in for. But like previously mentioned they will more often than not try to wind you. Usually hear your call, get a rough idea of where you're at then circle to get down wind and find high ground if they can. Prob 75% of the dogs I call in come from down wind and uphill. No matter how good the setup "looks" or where I "know" they'll come from. Depending on your method of take and range of reach the smelly stuff might be a wasted effort. Go minimal first then step up the game.
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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2013, 06:20:00 AM »
I don't think I would put that much effort into  one location unless you have a can on that rifle.  I know a couple guys using cans and they have taken up to 4 coyotes from a single set-up - without the can, it's rare to get a coyote into your set-up after firing a shot or two at the 1st coyote - it happens but it's sure not very common, as the sound of firing your rifle will carry further than your caller.

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Re: Coyote hunting: multiple lures, same field?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2013, 06:48:13 AM »
I would worry about the scent too Manny. A predator is already on high alert coming in. Whoever is tearing up that bunny may tear him up as well so he's on guard. Sight, sound and smell. He winds you and he's not sticking around for a split second. I electric callers are legal I would buy that instead of a quiver rabbit. Being able to get the ruckus away from you so you have a little more freedom of movement to line up a shot is great. For visual I just use a feather tied on a low tree limb and a weasel ball on the ground or in a tree. A weasel ball is a cheap kids toy at cracker barrel. It's a quiver ball with a raccoon tail on it. I paint them brown and leave them on the porch for a good while to get the paint scent off of them. Sometimes I'ss wrap them in fur but they don't flail around as good. I'll pick up a few when I go to crackerbarrel because hawks steal them every now and then.
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