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Offline ironglow

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22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« on: June 16, 2013, 02:26:16 AM »
  We see on the news a fellow who boasts of being a sperm donor to 22 children..more or less..he can't be sure.
    http://main.aol.com/2013/06/06/orlando-shaw-nashville-fa_n_3399159.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000058
 
   I recall just a few years ago when the federal govt got after a fellow who was involved in a Mormon offshoot group.  The feds were trying to jail him because he had sonething like 5 wives & 10-12 kids and did apply and get some govt assistance for a short time..
  While I don't agree with his religion or lifestyle, there are some mitigating circumstances (IMO). 
    A) He did at least marry the women..  B) He was doing a decent job raising his kids  C) He and his wives did work to support the children  D) The taking of food stamps or other govt help wa s only temporary.
 
  Naturally; the obvious question:  Why is this Nashville fellow allowed to run free..still doing his dirty work..while governments (we) are still footing the bills?
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 05:47:34 AM »
If he can't be sure, then there Is nothing virtuous about what he is doing. He should have gotten cut
long ago if he can't be all that he can be as a dad to his children.
Be fruitful and multiply didnt mean go out and act like fruit flies. Good stewardship is also a requirement in being a parent not how many kids your able to crank out.
At his age with that many kids it has to mean this man was impregnating more than one woman
per year. The medical bills for that alone had to be staggering and someone had to pick up that tab.
Wanna bet who that was? And I'm sure most of those women didnt know about all this or they
wouldn't have had anything to do with him. So that names him a cheat and a lier unless they were
some very homely and desperate women. In this state if it comes up that you have been married
repetitively over a period of time they make you get counsuling before you can do it again.
Internet marriages from dating sites caused this law to come into effect the judges were getting
sick of it. There is no way that this guy could pay child support and I'm surprised the state of
Tennessee didnt catch up with him long ago.

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 05:55:29 AM »
just because he impregnated several women does not make him a father/parent.  Being a father/parent has things attached to it like, financial support, being a role model by his behavior towards the mother and the children.

It takes more than being a sperm donor to be a dad.
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 06:04:43 AM »
just because he impregnated several women does not make him a father/parent.  Being a father/parent has things attached to it like, financial support, being a role model by his behavior towards the mother and the children.

It takes more than being a sperm donor to be a dad.


+1. A real heartwarming story here on Father's Day. But also a good argument for forced sterilization
due to irresponsible behavior.

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 06:24:53 AM »
just because he impregnated several women........
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+1. A real heartwarming story here on Father's Day. But also a good argument for forced sterilization
due to irresponsible behavior.

I'm all for it as long as it done to   b o t h !
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 06:43:06 AM »
just because he impregnated several women........
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+1. A real heartwarming story here on Father's Day. But also a good argument for forced sterilization
due to irresponsible behavior.

I'm all for it as long as it done to   b o t h !
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As it should be, somewhere along the line in this the taxpayer had to pick up some very hefty bills.

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 01:39:20 AM »
        "Man was created to spread his seed where he will, the woman was created to limit it to one farmer", Frank Barone

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2013, 06:00:18 PM »
       So sad, kids not responsible for their birth.
    If some folks eschatology is right we share our world with
  people whose lives will condemn them and soon.
 

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2013, 01:53:29 PM »
       So sad, kids not responsible for their birth.
    If some folks eschatology is right we share our world with
  people whose lives will condemn them and soon.
 


It has to be really hard on the kids. A few of them will become independent and make it but a lot
of them won't. Some may even end up behind bars because this guy was such a wonderful dad.

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2013, 05:42:18 AM »
      TBN had a great show the other night about how the sins of the father can be visited upon the sons.
      That is the corrupted world we live in.
      There will be no peace until the Prince of Peace returns.
      In the meantime let us all pray that we wear well, to the end.
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2013, 06:17:59 AM »
If he was providing support for them and being a father, I guess the libertarian in me says let it go.  HOWEVER, if he wants my tax money to support them, then forced sterilization is in order after the first two kids if he wasn't going to support them.  Same goes for the woman, if she has over two and is on the government dole, then she also needs snipping.  Enough is enough.  I had 7 kids and didn't get any government dole and was a father to them.  Spent time with a different kid each weekend alone.  Girls drove me crazy talking and wanting to go shopping.  I took the boys hunting or fishing.  Sometimes as a group.  Took all of them to the mountains camping, and to zoo's, etc.  One girl is now a teacher, one girl is studying to be an RN, one girl manages an appartment complex.  One girl married a guy who has a building degree just short of an archetect and travels around the country managing large building projects.  They are in San Antonio now.  Was in Washington DC.  One boy just works at a factory but hunts and shoots all the time.  One boy manages a Verison store.  One just finished two years aquaculture but is also in the national guard and is going to Afganistan in August.  He is the one who fishes all the time.  So, I didn't do too bad.  Mother left them with me while the older ones were teenagers for another man.  So I had to finish raising them, WITHOUT government help.  I made enough money as an engineer, just couldn't buy everything.  So, it is possible to raise a lot of kids without government assistance, just takes hard work, education, and faith.  Oh, between mine and my new wife of 8 years, we have 12 grandkids.   

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2013, 06:42:55 AM »
        "Man was created to spread his seed where he will, the woman was created to limit it to one farmer", Frank Barone
These days it is more like "one farmer at a time". 
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2013, 06:48:20 AM »
        "Man was created to spread his seed where he will, the woman was created to limit it to one farmer", Frank Barone
These days it is more like "one farmer at a time".

 
more like a commune .
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2013, 06:54:36 AM »
        I know of a case where the live in lizard's woman tried to shoot him in the groin and missed, HE STAYED WITH HER, she got him the second time, he left the gene pool.
        Heard a preacher speak of there being people on earth today whose only purpose is to be destroyed, sounds a little too strong, but i am starting to consider that as possible.
      We weren't created for it, but through our free will we can end up "earning" it.
     We all gotta serve somebody.
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2013, 07:07:05 AM »
At some point the host has to pull the leeches off or die , Are we near that point yet ?
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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2013, 01:18:15 PM »
At some point the host has to pull the leeches off or die , Are we near that point yet ?

no, i dont think so. what usually happens is the parasites keep gettin fatter and then the host dies. but then again the english have proved that the host can stumble on almost forever bearing the weight of the parasites.
 
americans however,i hope, are more well known for rising up , once pushed beyond a certain point. and kicking the opressors butt.i give us 8 to 10 years before that happens, if ever.

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2013, 02:04:15 PM »
The way things are going we are eventually going to hit a brick wall. Then we may not have any
choise but to do something. And it may not be a Pearl Harbor it could be from something simple
that was overlooked as insignificant. In the hopes we would overlook it like we do so many other
things. Rommel warned Hitler to not be so quick in declaring war on the US.
It takes us a lot to get going but once we do we finish the job and it has never been a pretty sight.
Churchill at the time was elated to hear about Pearl Harbor, he knew what our response would be
to that entire Axis mess. I guess it would take a red coat to know this.
 

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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2013, 04:05:48 AM »
Do we finish the job ?
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: 22 kids and not a dime to feed them..
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2013, 05:17:47 AM »
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Be fruitful and multiply didnt mean go out and act like fruit flies........

  Indeed.  It says "Be fruitful and multiply." It doesn't say spread like weeds.

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2013, 08:34:30 AM »
when that was written , we were still existing under the concept of only the strong and smart survive. It kept the gene pool clean . Now it's hard to tell the difference between the gene pool and holding tank at the sewer plant.
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