Ive been using No Excuses 495 gr,in my .50 Knight Elite,with Great result's.They are not the fastest offering around,but they usually (Game) wont take a second one.Im in the process of trying out their 460 grainers,but have not had much time at the range lately,due to weather.The 495's,will print Sub 1" groups,at 100yds.Im using 85 grs,of T-7 ffg,and a Winchester Primer.I like it !