Author Topic: Freeze dried barrel? (Read 1774 times)

Groo · « **on:** June 30, 2013, 10:04:49 AM »

Groo here
Has anyone tried to do a cold temper job on a Handie barrel?
That should relieve the stress risers nicely.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2013, 10:14:07 AM »

Waste of money IMO, the only relieving is the money from your pocket!

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,267033.msg1099595557.html#msg1099595557

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:56:45 PM »

It was a big fad a few years ago. It does have some effect, I consider it to be minimal.

trotterlg · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2013, 03:39:03 PM »

A costly urban mith. Plus, who cares if there are stresses in a H&R barrel? Larry

Bugflipper · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2013, 03:47:55 PM »

Some folks on a knife forum did a test. They treated some knives and did the rockwell test on em. Sent them off for cryo then tested again and got the same numbers.

HWB13 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2013, 04:49:37 PM »

I remember when it was the craze I had one done and didn't see a bit of difference before and after

Ranger99 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2013, 05:15:44 PM »

lot of controversy about cryo-treatment.
benelli does it to the barrels of their
newer guns. i don't think i'd spend the extra money
to have it done to any of my barrels or
blades. mine do ok now.

craigster · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2013, 05:55:25 PM »

Quote from: trotterlg on June 30, 2013, 03:39:03 PM

A costly urban mith. Plus, who cares if there are stresses in a H&R barrel? Larry

Money down a rat hole. Same goes for moly.

twoshooter · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2013, 06:14:42 PM »

I put a barrel in the fridge for a week, shot the same when it came out. $:-\$ Then I took a couple cold ones out of the fridge to relieve my stress.

The group size was still the same but it did not bother me nearly as much. In fact, it lead me to the discovery that if you use MUCH larger bullets the groups look much smaller. I found that an 1.5 " group with a 17 cal really sucks, but with a 50 cal it looks pretty good. I sold my 17 and bought a 500 S&W. My stress levels are way down

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2014, 03:21:57 AM »

I know this is an old topic but............. There might be something to the freeze procedure after all Pete's Handi's shoot very well

George

petemi · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2014, 03:28:53 AM »

Very seriously, I often wonder about the powders I'm using and temperature extremes on the low end. I try to do my sighting in and load work in the Spring or Fall with temps between 40 and 60 or so. I surely ain't shooting today.....about 8 below...it's hell when your finger sticks to the trigger

Pete

a4beltfed2000 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2014, 03:42:08 AM »

8 Below

must be nice to be that warm. -15 here with 10 mile a hour winds. Last week, temps were -25 with wind chills at minus -50....

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:17:20 AM »

San Angelo Texas was a balmy 85 degrees yesterday,no wind, clear blue skies Set a new record and was the high for the nation!Only supposed to get to mid 70's today though

George

Dinny · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:42:22 AM »

My fingers once froze to my trigger when it was cold. I stopped warming them in my mouth (sucking on them) and it never happened again.

Thanks, Dinny

HWB13 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:51:07 AM »

Quote from: -Dinny on February 01, 2014, 04:42:22 AM

My fingers once froze to my trigger when it was cold. I stopped warming them in my mouth (sucking on them) and it never happened again.

Thanks, Dinny

So how many of us have convinced someone or been convinced to stick your tongue to a cold barrel. Dinny's comment made me think of that.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:54:35 AM »

And after you finish a cold stress relief from the fridge, They make good shim stock.

thejanitor · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:03:25 AM »

Pete - there is something to be said about powder ignition at our mid winter temps... For the boys .223 we bought a special powder that was supposed to be much more even tempered since he had planned to coyote and fox hunt in the coldest times. (IMR 8208 xbr) But otherwise I just use the old reliable powders and I dont usually hunt in extreme cold. thejanitor

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:33:15 AM »

I leave the windows up when I am hunting in weather colder than 50 degrees

George

petemi · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:40:17 AM »

Quote from: thejanitor on February 01, 2014, 05:03:25 AM

But otherwise I just use the old reliable powders and I dont usually hunt in extreme cold. thejanitor

Brent, I think we grow wiser with age

George, you're just spoiled.

Pete

tacklebury · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2014, 06:02:21 AM »

Quote from: jeepmann1948 on February 01, 2014, 05:33:15 AM

I leave the windows up when I am hunting in weather colder than 50 degrees
George

Yah, Yah. It's not the winters in TX I cannot take though, it's the summers. 105+ too much for me... lol

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2014, 12:58:35 PM »

For you guys up north it is 65 degrees here in Sunny West Texas

revbc · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:03:23 PM »

72 here in cloudy Louisiana................just after the ice over

Just wait a few minutes, it'll change here! I guess we need the extreme powders with the snow and ice one day, warm and toasty the next

Don't have one of them fancy barrels though.

a4beltfed2000 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2014, 05:53:47 PM »

well temps right now are a lovely -18 with windchills of -35. So lets talk about cold, so far this year coldest is -28 with a wind chills temp of -50 to -60. Here the digital thermometers quiet working at -38 (actual temp) at those temps our face masks actually start to ice up and frost over. You will start to develope frost bite in 15 minutes on any exposed skin at those temps.... coldest temps remembered is -55 (actual) temp with wind chills hitting -80. My car froze and had to be towed to a indoor shop to defrost during this time.....

Dinny · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2014, 03:54:02 AM »

Quote from: jeepmann1948 on February 01, 2014, 12:58:35 PM

For you guys up north it is 65 degrees here in Sunny West Texas

How about today George?

http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/US/TX/San_Angelo.html

Thanks, Dinny

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:25:01 AM »

Well I will quit bragging on warm weather it is nasty even compared to the frozen north standards. Ice pellets and snow! Plus I get to drive 235 miles in it today................. What fun!
As they say payback is hell !

George

PS
Dinny your weather ain't so great today either
and THANK You for the weather forcast

George

Dinny · « **Reply #25 on:** February 02, 2014, 10:13:52 AM »

Lest you forget, I'm a Michigan Yankee too, born in Plainwell. These 6" of snow are nothing. I was in MI in 1978.

Thanks, Dinny

gcrank1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 02, 2014, 11:29:39 AM »

Ive seen some terrible prices for cryo, I have a guy here that gets it done by the pound in the batch with industrial stuff and pretty cheap so anybody charging a lot is laughing all the way to the bank.
On the muzzleloader barrels we have done it 'seems' to make 'em slicker; ie, they dont seem to hold onto the fouling so bad and Paul did some group testing with one of his before and after and said it was better. Sure is hard to be more than subjective about all that, though.......Im still the weakest link in the accuracy chain.

mechanic · « **Reply #27 on:** February 02, 2014, 11:35:40 AM »

We've had some below 0 wind chills here this year, and I can tell you it didn't affect my Handi's that much. I looked in the safe once, and there they were, all snug and warm.

It did affect me a little though. I noticed my body parts began to feel funny and stiff and even painful after just a few minutes.

Conclusion, I need to climb in the safe with the Handi's and wait for a thaw....like today.

Ben

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 02, 2014, 12:22:55 PM »

I hate to post a reply directly applying to the topic but the cyro can be applied by putting the barrel in a metal pipe capped on one end,stand the pipe on end and then filling the pipe with liquid nitrogen and loosely screwing the other cap back on.We use this little trick to shrink liners and valve seats at the machine shop. It gets colder than an ex-wife's heart very quick

NO idea as to what you will gain other than froze fingers if you are not careful though!
George

petemi · « **Reply #29 on:** February 02, 2014, 12:42:27 PM »

Yeah George. 85 yesterday. You need to can that one and drag it out when ya need it....like now. That's what we do

Ya see what braggin' gets ya? There's another nasty one coming in Tuesday or so. It's gonna...thankfully....miss us, go south and get our Ohio guys and go on to clobber the east coast. In the meantime, we're gonna have clear and warmer. It might even make the 20s. I can't knock it. It's about a forty degree improvement.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot the topic...If anyone wants to freeze dry a barrel, just send it up to me and I'll lay it out on the reloading bench overnight.

Pete