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Buck shot in a 20ga?
« on: February 01, 2014, 03:12:17 PM »
  As I understand it 00 and 000 buck shot doesn't stack nicely in a 20ga hull, so that's why you don't see 00 or 000 20ga shells for sale anywhere.  How big of a pellet can you load effectively in 20ga?
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 03:18:20 PM »
i have  some 20ga...the pellet is so big....they only load one


#2 and  #3  are all i ever head of.........until i found some #1 [9 pellets]


rio i think makes them......i have some but not tested them yet
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 03:24:29 PM »
Same with me, #3 is all I have seen. Someone mentioned others but I haven't seen them.

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 03:55:46 PM »
I have 2-3 boxes of the 3" magnum Federal #2 buck, so I know it's made..Cheaten dirt list it..
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 03:13:12 AM »
If you want to shoot buckshot I'd stick with 16 or 12 ga. #1 or 00.

20 ga I can find is usually #4.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2014, 01:31:00 AM »
Quote from: pastorp on February 02, 2014, 03:13:12 AM
20 ga I can find is usually #4.

Never seen #4 in a 20 gauge.  I keep some in 12 gauge (27 pellets in 2 3/4") for coyotes.  All I've seen in 20 is #3 buck with 20 pellets per 2 3/4" shell.  Keep some of them for coyotes too.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2014, 01:51:49 AM »
#1 shoots REAL nice in my 16ga Savage 311 shorty!  ::) I haven't shot much #3 20ga in recent years. But I will as soon as I finish my 20g shorty build. ;)

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2014, 03:18:01 AM »
Here #2 and #3 are all we see. Years ago I could get #0 buck in 20 ga. but not any more. I think the number of pellets is important with buck shot and in a small hull they stick to smaller shot size.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2014, 07:31:01 PM »
Quote from: jlwilliams on February 01, 2014, 03:12:17 PM
  As I understand it 00 and 000 buck shot doesn't stack nicely in a 20ga hull, so that's why you don't see 00 or 000 20ga shells for sale anywhere.  How big of a pellet can you load effectively in 20ga?
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Number 3 buckshot in 20ga 3'' is nothing to laugh about. Each shot is equal to a 25 caliber ball, 20 of these should be all you need. If I were to go to 12 gauge I would use 2-3/4 number 1 buck, 16 pellets, 30 caliber.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 01:30:40 AM »
One trait that is least understood is when you lengthen the shell in a bore you cause shot stringing and often more deformation of the shot .That's why the 10 ga has had a come back , better patterns over the 3.5 12 ga. with larger payloads  When you increase shot number you increase the weight of the payload thus. causing a lower shot speed . This is necessary to lower pressure. So often times a standard shell with a few less shot can be more effective or deadly. With buckshot it is better to have a close pattern that hits at the same time or very close to the same time than a long pattern . Maybe not as important on a standing deer but with a running deer it is.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 01:35:13 AM »
I would add that in most cases the shot has less velocity than most bullets the same size so a #1 buck may be .30 cal. it does not have either the weight or speed of a rifle bullet and cannot deliver the energy to the target a rifle does at like ranges. Most buckshot starts out at 1350 fps or under . So in effect buck shot is dependent on multiple hits at the same time to deliver enough energy to do the job. And yes I have taken several deer with one pellet and consider them all lucky shots. 
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 06:46:01 AM »
Bought a box of Sparten 20ga 2 2/4", 00 buck loads last night at Academy Sports for $12.99 for 25. Haven't tried these yet but should be fun
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 06:55:26 AM »
Not saying your wrong, but I would be greatly surprised if you got 25 00 buck for $13.00.  If you are correct, I'm going to Academy.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 07:21:25 AM »
I WISH I COULD FIND SOME!!!!!!!

Good price too!!!

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 10:37:56 AM »
Some of the guys in my hunt club had some shells that were of lesser known manufactures and they did not work very well. Don't think it was that brand. But then I once got a box of Remington buckshot that one shell was folded /crushed and the shot was laying the box on top of it and the one next to it was almost that bad. Then there was the rem 3 inch #1's that rolled out the barrel so slow you could see it and stuck in a deer's hide . My dad killed the deer.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 04:33:43 AM »
@ FPH...So I guess I'm wrong  >:(   And guess your going to Academy... Not even sure why I comment if someone is going to call you a liar....


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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 04:42:07 AM »
Quote from: jimwill48 on February 06, 2014, 04:33:43 AM
@ FPH...So I guess I'm wrong  >:(   And guess your going to Academy... Not even sure why I comment if someone is going to call you a liar....


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Cool your jets brother!!  NO ONE called you anything!!  You MUST admit this is a very good price and with ammo prices as they are seems as if the quantity purchased might have been in error if not price itself.

Your new here so may not know how to READ INTO some posts. We are friendly around here. No flaming or calling names.

That IS a great price. I wish I had that store near me so I too could get some.

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 05:07:27 AM »
Not to keep this going, but I have been a member of this site since 2005, so not anywhere near new. But just never have posted much here.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 05:11:30 AM »
Quote from: jimwill48 on February 06, 2014, 05:07:27 AM
Not to keep this going, but I have been a member of this site since 2005, so not anywhere near new. But just never have posted much here.

My apologies. I looked at you thread count and assumed. My bad.

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 04:40:35 PM »
Quote from: jimwill48 on February 06, 2014, 04:33:43 AM
@ FPH...So I guess I'm wrong  >:(   And guess your going to Academy... Not even sure why I comment if someone is going to call you a liar....


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                Sorry if I offended you.......just very surprised at the price.   And yes I'm going to Academy.....thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2014, 03:39:17 AM »
i paid $8 for OO buck...box of 25


picked up 3 boxes.....they rang up $75
i took them over to  the shelf they had labeled wrong


THEY HONORED THE PRICE  OF $8


figured they wouldn't honor the price if i got a cart and cleared the shelf


BTW  this was 12ga
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2014, 03:44:56 AM »
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2014, 04:30:23 AM »
I just picked up a few boxes last week.

410 was 6.99 for FIVE ROUNDS Winchester

12 was 5.99 for FIVE ROUNDS. Remington

12 ga S&B ( that I much prefer) was 3.99 per FIVE

13 & 9 for 25 is AWESOME PRICING!!!! That's just over .3 cents a round for 8$ stuff and .52 for the. 13$ compaired to almost 1.25 PER ROUND FOR 410!!!!!!

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2014, 06:35:27 AM »
That is great pricing. Here the 25 round box of Winchester military grade 2-3/4" ,00 buck is $24.95 a box.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2014, 07:31:49 AM »
Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 07, 2014, 06:35:27 AM
That is great pricing. Here the 25 round box of Winchester military grade 2-3/4" ,00 buck is $24.95 a box.

This is what I would expect. A bit cheaper than my five round boxes or a buck a round...

The lower prices (8$/25)are upwards of 70% cheaper!! That's twice retail markup!! Reall WOW pricing.

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2014, 12:41:01 PM »
Well I found some Spartan brand 00 buck in 20 gauge at Academy......clearance priced at $7.49/25.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2014, 01:19:12 PM »
Three stores today... not a single 20g shell.  :( :( :( :(

BUT I picked up 50 Win OO Buck shot shells AND 5 ''breecher'' rounds for 11$!!!!!  It was ''used'' ammo unboxed loose. What do I care?? I store mine in MTM Plastic 25 round boxes anyhow!!  MUCH better if thrown in a back seat or pack!!

Tomorrow hopefully I can stop at one more shop I haven't been to in 9 months. MAYBE they have something...

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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2014, 01:24:44 PM »
I have a life time supply of 20 ga so I left them on the self for someone that needs them, but at that price ,I'll go back the middle of next week and if they are still there.......at that price they are mine.  I wouldn't trust them for HD, but they might be fun just to blast with.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2014, 02:33:27 PM »
FYI CW.........it took quite a bit of searching before I( found the 20 ga shells......they were mixed in with the 12 ga buckshot shells.
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Re: Buck shot in a 20ga?
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2014, 02:49:26 PM »
Quote from: FPH on February 08, 2014, 02:33:27 PM
FYI CW.........it took quite a bit of searching before I( found the 20 ga shells......they were mixed in with the 12 ga buckshot shells.

Thanks for the TIP!!  ;D ;D ;D

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