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Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« on: January 03, 2003, 05:06:15 AM »
Anybody care to share their opinion of Cold Steel's Trail Master Bowie?  Hype or fact?  I'm gonna plunk down some cash for a serious Bowie, and I want the best.  I'm a Texan and I got traditions to uphold.  Opinions appreciated!
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2003, 09:13:55 AM »
Venator, I kinda like it. I have a CS Recon Tanto which is nearly but not quite as large but uses the same steel. That's the sharpest knife I've ever seen from the maker. Tough to resharpen but it sure holds an edge. Don't think you'll find a better choice from a factory.

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2003, 03:39:33 PM »
Really you will not go wrong with Cold Steel.  The trail master  I have is a real performer.  I did the chop test on a poplar tree and all that, it kept its edge and has never failed me. You could go along way for a better self defense knife too.  The rubber grip rides up under clothing, if you're  going to carry this knife, you may want to consider a stag handle.  This company specialzes in concealing big knives for daily carry.  Keep it legal, though.   :D

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2003, 01:38:02 PM »
Appreciate the feedback!  Good it hear that ya'll like it, cause I wanted one real bad and needed a push to buy it.  Now if only the danged Laredo model wasn't so expensive...
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2003, 11:26:58 AM »
The very same steel, it's great! :D
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 10:11:28 AM »
I've got a Trail Master I bought years ago. I thought they discontinued them. I like mine alot but would be happier if I could think of a legitimate use for it :lol:. Nothing like a $ 125.00 machete! I had a friend of mine make a leather sheath for it because mine came with a fairly cheesy nylon one.  What do they sell for these days?

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2003, 10:53:21 AM »
Was at a knife site the other day, and they had the Carbon V bladed ones for $129.50.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2003, 05:50:44 AM »
Before I trash the TRAILMASTER, I must report I own four TwistMasters, three CarbonV Master Hunters, and two reground SRKs. I appreciate the Kraton grips (they aren't on TwistMasters), edge holding of CarbonV, and its surprising corrosion resistance. These are wonderful knives.

As an object of beauty, the TRAILMASTER is comparable with the better commercial knives. As a knife, it is useless -- I owned one for about three weeks.

Blade thickness is such that using the knife to do any job traditionally done by knives is essentially impossible. The blade is a very sharp chisel, but so what?

It may be a useful chopping device, but machetes and axes do a better job.

If this is intended to be a "Hey, guys, come see this bitchin' knife," the TRAILMASTER will serve you well.


If you want to field dress an elk, or slice a tomato . . .

If you are willing to invest the time to regind the SRK from a chisel/pry bar to something closer in edge profile to a Kabar, it becomes a superior heavy-duty knife. It may not pound through car doors, but it does "knife stuff" well.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2003, 03:31:13 PM »
I have carried the Trailmaster for about twelve years. Besides using the knife for every correct and incorrect use possible for a knife, like chopping through ice, chopping kindling, pry bar, digging etc., I have used it to gut, skin, and butcher elk and deer. The knife is great. It is well balanced and keeps it's edge. There is a reason for the 1/4"  "chisel" edged blade. In camp I have Hatchets, axes and machetes. I don't lug them on the trail. I have owned and used many large knives over the years. I have found the Trailmaster to be the best overall for backpacking expeditions. :grin:
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2003, 04:12:31 AM »
Good luck Venator. I think you'll need it.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 10:04:47 AM »
I work solo as a prospector in extremely remote wilderness areas here in British Columbia/Alberta, Canada and just purchased a VG-1 Trail Master San Mai last week.

I haven't had a chance to get out in the bush with it yet so can't comment on its performance yet.

The reason I picked this knife is because I need a tool that does several jobs example clearing trail. prying rocks apart, defense, survival as well as I wanted one that was of a material that was almost impervious to the weather that I am exposed too...

Are there better knives out there possibly but for the money I couldn't find one locally.

While in camp I have the tools needed for camping but needed a tool that would be my jack of all trades for when I was out in the bush.





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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 02:19:29 AM »
While it looks like a knife, I don't think it's much of one.  A friend who I hike/backpack with carried that beast for a while(he got rid of it); he was one of those one-knife-does-it-all types also.  Trouble was, it didn't do too much very well, or perhaps the more accurate term is efficiently.  I normally carry a light 4" knife with either a 3/32" or 1/8" diameter blade and either a Gerber folding saw or a light hatchet. The knife cuts, slices, whittles much, much better than his Cold Steel did.  The saw would cut through a thick branch or a small tree while he was still whaling away at some such. The saw and the knife weighed probably about as much as the bowie, never thought to weigh them, and between the two made his 1/4" prybar look pretty useless overall.  I could probably skin out a deer with a machete if I needed to, and that's all I had, but large clumsy blades make an easy job just that...clumsy.  There's a set of pictures at another site of one of my friends using a 3 3/4" blade that's 3/32"  thick to skin/butcher out half a moose.  His buddy did the other half with his repro of an old Alaskan design that has a forged 3" blade.  Knives are for cutting...period. For one to cut well, it needs to be able to hold a thin, sharp edge for a good while; something 1/4" prybars don't do. I know 'cause I've tried them.  I've a Ontario SP-5 that's about like that that I bought off a friend who needed money badly, and after trying it for a while, it now sits in my drawer.  No matter how I tried to convex the edge, plus I got rid of that ludicrous "bowie" point and turned it into a straight clip, it was  just too durned big and clumsy to do knife things  efficiently(and comfortably)....and it wan't as good as a saw or axe. The thought of wearing that monstrosity while hiking more than a mile or so left me feeling a trifle faint....ain't no way. Any time you try to compromise that ability you end up with something that just doesn't do it's designed job well. The old mountain men mostly carried thin bladed knives such as the Green Rivers ,as did the Indians, because they were light and sharp and made quick work of any knife chores that needed to be done; such as skinning out God knows how many Buffalo......they used other tools, such as axes, tomahawks etc, to do what THEY did best. The spent their whole lives outdoors and knew what worked for what job, and what didn't.   They may have owned a large fighting knife, but that's what it was used for...fighting for the most part.  I've no desire to fight with a stick, or branch or tomato, squirrel, deer etc. If for some reason I need a digging tool, I make one using my knife or axe or saw.  Works a heck of a lot better than my knife, plus I don't have to re-sharpen the thing. Same with pounding...a chunk of wood or rock makes a better hammer than any knife.  I just, after a lot of years of messing with, and making, knives don't see much use for something like the Trail Master....except maybe fantasizing. 

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 09:14:05 AM »
I love my Cold Steel Trailmaster, however for my purposes it serves the function of an all around bush tool.  It will chop forever before needing to be sharpened.   It can clean a large animal, but very diffucult to use on small game.  Most of the time I use a Master Hunter for cleaning.   The Trailmaster does excell in one area though, it will go from behind a pigs shoulder through his lungs and into the heart very easily.   I carry mine when I am hunting wiht my bow.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 07:41:25 AM »
If you want a more traditional Bowie, look at their Natchez knife.  The Trail Master is fine and I have had a couple but they were just to big to tote around. 
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2008, 12:13:59 AM »
I LOVE mine!!

 Its done everything I have asked of it and never let me down. Cold Steel is one of my favorite factory knife makers. I think it will do the same for you.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 01:17:49 AM »
I think if you want the best, a knife made in China might not make the grade.  I have one, but it was free.  My friend constantly buys knives and after a week or 2 decides he doesn't like them and gives them to me.  It's not a bad knife.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 01:32:52 AM »
I've seen those knives and they do look cool, but I think they fall more into the machette, hatchet, defensive knife.  I like using a small knife when field dressing a deer, but you mentioned needing to move rocks and pry on things so it'd probably be a great knife for you.  It's like any tool, only you know the job you're going to use it for so it's your $$ and your call.  I'm interested in hearing how it works out for you.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 02:09:20 AM »
http://www.coldsteel.com/trailmaster.html

 Say what you want, its one tough knife.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 05:59:18 AM »
The only Cold Steel knife that I've owned (so far) was a large Voyager clip point, and I loved that knife.  It was so sharp out of the box, it was scary.  I carried it religiously when outdoors, and I lost the darn thing last year and just don't know what happened to it.  I actually think that someone stole it out of my pack while in camp.  It was in an inner pocket, so there's no way it could have fallen out.  I'd love to have a Trailmaster, but I can't talk myself into paying that $$ for a knife.

If you have the money, I don't think you can beat a Trailmaster for a strong, sharp, knife that you an use and abuse.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 08:09:32 AM »
I didn't pay that either!!  ;D

 I picked it up used 6 or so years back in as new condition for about 100 $.. I have seen them go reasonable on fleabay so keep your eyes open and you will find one as well!!

 I have many CS knives, never once bought one form the factory. (Thats FULL RETAIL, and no one who knows ever pays full retail!!!) If you look on-line you can save 20+% easily.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 09:04:46 AM »
Has anyone tried the Cold steel bushmaster, the one peice design with the hollow
round handle about 14"?
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 11:06:42 AM »
Rex - I think you are referring to the "Bushman" knife.    Yes I own two of them.  I keep one at the hunting camp for kitchen duties and my other one is in my field pack.   

Because of the smooth round handle and no hilt the Bushman can be problematic with its grip.   I solved that on both knives with some camo wrap.   On the one in my field pack I attach an antler button for the pommel and a boars tooth for a single hilt.   

That steel (SK5) is one tough steel.  I had to drill pilot holes for the brass screws to attach the tooth and it was no easy task.   On the other hand the blade will take and keep an edge for a long time.

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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2009, 05:06:18 AM »
Yea the Bushman that is it.
I can not imagine skinning anything with this 1/4" thick 12" long Bowie
i am hearing about, maybe an elephant.
I use a 3 1/2" blade skinning knife to skin and field dress  deer, elk, and one
buffalo.  I carry a small Hatchet in my pack
I have never been in a position to skin an elephant but don't think i would
reach for a machete to do it. I have for years wonder what these huge knives
were good for, if they can take the place of a machete or small hatchet,
i might use one for say $35 range.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2009, 05:51:49 AM »
Rex - the one I use in the kitchen is a do-all knife...takes the place of several others that I would normally use at home.

The one I keep in my field pack is a utility knife that i use instead of a machete, or hatchet.   I can use it efficiently for taking the hide and heads off of large (250+ lb) boar hogs, but I use a 3-4 " blade for most of the dressing.

It gets so sharp it is very good at clearing light brush with little effort.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2009, 07:53:05 AM »
I tried one back in the late 80's for a while. I had it on several hikes/backpacking trips and other woods exursions. I got rid of it about the time I got rid of my other large heavy knives. It wasn't a bad chopper, but didn't chop as good as a small hatchet. It was almost usless for slicing work around camp, which is what I carry a knife for. It seemed to do a good job at soothing a Walter Mity fantacy thing.

I eventually got rid of most of the knives I had accumulated, and settled for a 4 inch Finnish puuko by I. Jarvenpaa, and a small hatchet. The combo actually weights a few onces less than the monstrosity the trail master was, and does alot more things competently. The Jarvenpaa puuko cuts like a lazer, and my Plumb hatchet, or my Fiskars hatchet, or my GB hatchet goes through wood like a crazed beaver.

In summer the hatchet gets replaced sometimes by a foldiing saw from Silky, Fiskars, or Opinel.

I finally figured out there was a good reason the old mountain men and other frontiersmen carried a Green river butcher knife and a tomahawk.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2009, 08:34:13 AM »
cbl51,
    You're right about the puukko knives.  I just bought one of them and wow!  I got it for just over $10 on ebay.  I've read great things about puukko knives and hold well they hold an edge and resharpen.  I bought this knife here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MORA-OF-SWEDEN-KNIFE-521-HIGH-CARBON-BUSHCRAFT_W0QQitemZ310108046529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKnives?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

I plan on using it for deer hunting with field dressing in mind.  Pretty hard to loose a knife with an orange handle.

I would have bought one from these guys, but I like having some kind of a finger guard on a working knife.

http://www.kellamknives.com/


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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 10:31:57 AM »
I am ordering a puukko knife off of ebay.  I never heard of them before, so thanks for mentioning them.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2009, 10:49:31 AM »
cbl51,
    You're right about the puukko knives.  I just bought one of them and wow!  I got it for just over $10 on ebay.  I've read great things about puukko knives and hold well they hold an edge and resharpen.  I bought this knife here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MORA-OF-SWEDEN-KNIFE-521-HIGH-CARBON-BUSHCRAFT_W0QQitemZ310108046529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKnives?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

I plan on using it for deer hunting with field dressing in mind.  Pretty hard to loose a knife with an orange handle.

I would have bought one from these guys, but I like having some kind of a finger guard on a working knife.

http://www.kellamknives.com/



Those Swedish mora knives are some of the most underestimated knives on the planet. Very tough dependable knives. But don't be afraid of ordering from Kellum, the people of scandinavia have been using those knives for over a thousand years in the puuko form. In real world use, you won't cut yourself with them because of a lack of a guard. Look at it this way, do you see any guards on fillet knives or the knives the old mountain men used? The Russell's green river knife was basicly just a wood handle butcher knife. If it can skin beaver or buffalo, it must have been a very effective blade. On a more modern note, the Buck knife that took the world by storm when it was brought out in 1963 didn't have a guard either.

Check out Kellum, and look at some of the Finish Puuko knivs by Jarvenpaa, Roselli, and Tommi. Top notch knives.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 10:53:04 AM »
I am ordering a puukko knife off of ebay.  I never heard of them before, so thanks for mentioning them.

Be very carefull of the e-bay knives. Puuko is just a style of knife from Finland and Sweden and Norway, and there are many different makers and sub styles. Also alot of knock off rip offs. Go to Ragnars Ragweed Forge for a good selection of real puuko style knives from Finland and Sweden and Norway. Kellum is good too.
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Re: Opinions on Cold Steel's Trail Master
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 11:18:45 AM »
I was looking at:

VINTAGE FINNISH PUUKKO HUNTING SKINNING KNIFE KNIVES GC Item number: 270332476677

It has 3 days to go, current bid is at 10.95
Would you mind taking a look at it for me?
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