pshaw, Might've been, not sure here either. :? Anyhow the .308 seems like the simplest way to go, unless you have an older receiver they won't put a .308 barrel on. In that case the .30-30 is your only choice in .308 diameter. Bumping it up to the 40 degree Ackley version should be a hand reamer project, and get velocities close to the Krag, to boot. :?