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Offline EdinCT

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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber?
« on: February 24, 2004, 01:22:23 PM »
I have just bought a Kimber custum 2 and the owners manual says not to carry it with a round in the chamber.
 I thought cocked and locked was the way it was supposed to be carried. Is this a safety net for the company to protect themselves from those bent on suicide?
  I have wanted to get a 1911 for twenty years and I am not disappointed!
                                                             
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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2004, 02:24:17 PM »
Yes! That is except for bad guys.  I would assume that Kimber is trying to avoid liability problems. :roll:  I am thinking of buying a Kimber Custom 2 or Pro carry as soon as I can figure out which one I wan't. Having trouble deciding. How much did you have to pay for your KC2?

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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2004, 05:41:41 PM »
very safe
odds are with the prepared.....

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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2004, 10:56:55 PM »
John Browning designed this pistol to be carried cocked and locked.

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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2004, 04:21:25 AM »
tranders - it's a liability thing and the absolute wrongest thing to advocate.  If you carry your 1911 with an empty chamber the bad guy is gonna get it, period.  The 1911 was made to be carried cocked.  You can apply the slide safety if you want, but the grip safety is just that, a safety, and it is only for liability purposes that manufacturers and training schools do not advertise the fact that the 1911 can be carried loaded,  and chambered without the slide safety on.  When you carry the 1911 chambered, cocked and locked, you actually have two safeties on at the same time.  

Most schools teach getting a good grip on the pistol first, before you move to operate the slide safety.  But don't be misled into thinking that the grip safety will always deactivate when you grip the gun - you have to grip it properly to deactivate that grip safety.  With those two design safeties, you have to be assured that you have a proper grip on the piece to deactivate that grip safety before you deactivate the slide safety or the pistol will not fire.

During the war it was not uncommon for many to carry their 1911s chambered with the slide safety on and the grip safety taped down.  I saw that quite a bit and never heard of anyone shooting themselves or someone the didn't want to.  

Just please try to remember that all the warning labels are there only for the liability of the manufacturer.  Most have little practical relationship to the need for the use of the piece.  Just my 2 cents worth.  Mikey.

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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2004, 12:28:40 PM »
Quote from: tranders
John Browning designed this pistol to be carried cocked and locked.


Mikey,
I agree with you whole heartedly.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2004, 04:04:43 PM »
Thank you all for your replies. I thought My Dads friends used to say cocked and locked was/is the only way to carry.
   I paid 619.00 for it and am very pleased with it.
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Is it save to carry a 1911 with a round in
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2004, 10:24:27 PM »
Virtually all hunters carry their bolt action rifles "cocked n locked".

I think the vusual effect of seeing the 1911 pistol's hammer all the way back, has a psychological effect on those who aren't accustomed to it. To some, it just looks unsafe......kind of like the scarey "assault rifle" effect on those who just don't know any better!

To those who own and use a 1911 style pistol, the manual and grip safeties add up to one of the safest handgun designs ever.

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