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He won't do this again!
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:40:59 PM »
"Suicide Bomb Instructor Accidentally Kills Iraqi Pupils"

"The militant who was conducting the training was not identified by name, but he was described by an Iraqi Army officer as a prolific recruiter who was “able to kill the bad guys for once.” "

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/wo...qi-pupils.html

Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!  ;D

Those guys got a lucky break! Yesterday, they were just a handful of jihadist radicals, but today, they are the "Honored Dead".   ::)

Ya gotta love happy endings!   ;)
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2014, 11:37:12 PM »
 Hi UM44 it comes up page not found. I guess his teaching skills were not up to par, or maybe a little too good.
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2014, 12:27:51 AM »
double post!
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2014, 12:28:43 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on February 16, 2014, 12:10:20 AM
Probably was actually drone botted....TM7

Proof?
Or just another opinion pulled from thin air? :o
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2014, 12:56:00 AM »
Willy!
Did you not understand "probably" ?
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2014, 04:51:17 AM »
Quote from: BBF on February 16, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
Willy!
Did you not understand "probably" ?

I guess not.
Not when it is used with "actually"
Why don't YOU explain what   "probably was actually" means?
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 11:14:21 PM »
Well if suicide bombers are a myth how come they kill so many people ? Why do you defend Islam when the sinners harm others but when Christians sin it is the fault of the church ?
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 10:22:22 AM »
 
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The people that create and maintain the suicide bomber myth false construct do all the killing, and blame suicide bombers....pretty neat, huh!?

 
 
 
 
Well, as a conspiracy theory or fantasy, then yes I guess that is "pretty neat".    ::)
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 05:40:28 AM »
Yeahhhhhh, that's the ticket.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 10:52:35 AM »
TM, you are rapidly unraveling. Suicide bombers are a fantasy? Tell that to the families of their victims and see how your "false construct" theory plays out. You deny the 9/11 attacks. Now you deny that suicide attacks are being made in the name of Islam? Such thinking requires a complete break with reality. Sitting in the Bat Cave with the knobs on the tinfoil helmet turned to 11, this insanity may please you, but it is deeply insulting to those who have lost friends  and family to chaps in exploding vests screaming Allahu Akbar. That the theology isn't there doesn't change the killing done in its name. The Bible didn't justify the Crusades. Do you deny the sack of Constantinople or the Christian kingdoms of the Levant as well?
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 10:54:06 AM »
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So you buy, believe and resell that story line, riiiight casull?

 
 
 
I believe the version that seems most sensical.  Furthermore, I have actually spoken to, and know, a man who witnessed it firsthand.  He was a Marine sergeant that was involved in the "push" in Fallujah (actually served a number of tours in Iraq) as a demolitions man.  During the "push", he personally shot an insurgent that was charging his platoon's position.  That insurgent was wearing a vest containing explosives and in his hand was the detonator.  Not only did this Marine shoot the individual, he then had to "defuse" the suicide vest (his expertise).  This is a man that I know, and consider a friend.  This is a man who's word I trust.  This is a man who has been written of (along with others) in the book "We Were One" by Patrick O'Donnell, describing the Marines who took Fallujah.  So, when you speak of the myth of the suicide bomber, I say BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 05:11:54 AM »
So you think it is a myth about suicide bombing even though it is carried out quite often around the middle east along with other places in the world. We in fact are talking about an instructor making a mistake in a class teaching such in this subject. We can disagree.
 Now you ask if  or under what conditions I would commit suicide. I would never plan to commit suicide. I might find myself in a situation where survival would be bleak if I engaged in saving a wife , child or other family member. And to be quite honest it would be a decision I would have to make at the time. Or another way to put it is my christen teachings tell me to protect life not destroy it. Or let others destroy it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 01:38:37 AM »
 Is it important when the Muslims started using suicide bombers ? The fact is they do. As for the Isralies   are they not supposed to tell how they are attacked ? Myth , really your post reek of myth. If it is hard to p[rove it is not a suicide bomb then it surely is just as hard to prove it is not  ;) but when so many bombers blow up with the bomb they are down right stupid or committing suicide.  Guess it is as hard to prove Mossad actions as it is suicide bombers .
 So is it ok to bomb as many targets as they do if it isn't a suicide bomber ? Are you just defending the suicide part  or the bombing in general ?
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 01:54:09 AM »
Who cares what they do in the Middle East?  That's Middle Eastern news for Middle Easterners!  I'm an American. Give me American news.

As for our troops, bring them home and put them on the border!  We have our own borders to police.  Not Iraq's, Not Syria's and Not Iran's.   :o 8)
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 03:29:56 AM »
TM's anti-semitism is so strong that he can't accept the idea that either Israelis are the victims of well documented suicide attacks by fools acting on the name of Islam or that the avowed enemies of the Jews could possibly be capable of brainwashing young idiots, like the 19 who signed up for 9/11, to sacrifice themselves for the idea of Islam that the fascist fundamentalists fabricate. It's pathetic. And as someone who lost friends and family in the 9/11 attacks, this terrorism denial is extremely offensive.

Having lived and worked in the Middle East, I know it is not some gobbledygook "Straussian" plot that drives stupid young kids to commit acts of terror against Western civilization, it is hate; hatred of tolerance, hatred of wealth, hatred of secular morality, and hatred of those who have built something based largely on social consensus rather than dictatorial fiat.

And while Hairy seems only marginally less incomprehensible than TM7 most of the time, he is consistently correct on one thing: illegal immigrants bear that same hate for our society and its destruction as their goal, much the same as it appears to me does our resident seasonal baked good, TM7.
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2014, 07:28:32 AM »
Quote from: RPRNY on February 20, 2014, 03:29:56 AM
TM's anti-semitism is so strong that he can't accept the idea that either Israelis are the victims of well documented suicide attacks by fools acting on the name of Islam or that the avowed enemies of the Jews could possibly be capable of brainwashing young idiots, like the 19 who signed up for 9/11, to sacrifice themselves for the idea of Islam that the fascist fundamentalists fabricate. It's pathetic. And as someone who lost friends and family in the 9/11 attacks, this terrorism denial is extremely offensive.

Having lived and worked in the Middle East, I know it is not some gobbledygook "Straussian" plot that drives stupid young kids to commit acts of terror against Western civilization, it is hate; hatred of tolerance, hatred of wealth, hatred of secular morality, and hatred of those who have built something based largely on social consensus rather than dictatorial fiat.

And while Hairy seems only marginally less incomprehensible than TM7 most of the time, he is consistently correct on one thing: illegal immigrants bear that same hate for our society and its destruction as their goal, much the same as it appears to me does our resident seasonal baked good, TM7.

What's there to deny in a suicide bomber?  The real question is why are there suicide bombers?  When we turn our backs away from the root cause of the event, our immorality for not doing so taints our moral judgement in formulating an answer to the second question.  Who did it?  If we can't have a reasonable discussion about the first question, than how can any rational observer accept the conclusion of the second question?  Therefore, it begs the question that either side could have been the suicide bomber.  Plus, there are two motives.  One is a grievance, the other is an opportunity to further one group's goals.  As far as insulting victim's families, the biggest insult is when one finds out the answer to the second question, who did it, was stated otherwise for one group's benefit. 

As far as immigrants bearing some perceived 'hate', I would have to disagree there also.  The reason these groups conflict with Americans is due to political and economic competition.  Plus these groups typically are collectivist by nature and don't assimilate easily.  That is how they evolved over thousands of years.  They don't originally have 'hate' in their minds.   But by coming here, they do have a destructive effect on the society.  If they have hatred, it is generated by a hostile media whose group itself benefits when living in a society that is multicultural and divided.  Perhaps, I should say that we white Anglo's, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, Native Americans and Asian Americans are victims of hate.  We've become divided by a hateful media who desires us to conflict with one another.  We need to look at the true sources of hate.  Those who yell the loudest, Hate, are likewise proven time and again to be the biggest haters of all.  Keep that on in mind anytime you hear the word Hate.  Who are the real haters? You're looking at 'em.     
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Re: He won't do this again!
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2014, 07:38:08 AM »
Quote from: SHOOTALL on February 16, 2014, 11:14:21 PM
Well if suicide bombers are a myth how come they kill so many people ? Why do you defend Islam when the sinners harm others but when Christians sin it is the fault of the church ?
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  Come on; it's not muslims who are doing the suicide bombing.. it's the Methodists, Lutherans and Episcopalians who do it..except for the ones George Bush does by himself..over & over.. ;) ;D
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2014, 05:22:50 AM »
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Just because casull personally knows so and so doesn't mean much...could be the fighter was carrying explosives for an IED or some other task, certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate.

 
 
 
tm7, are you really that dim?  He "certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate".  I'll guess we'll have to call him an "attempted suicide bomber".  I guess you missed the part where I stated he was charging on their position with detonator in hand.  Sheeesh, if you can't come up with better than that, you should just ignore the post.     ::)
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2014, 10:06:47 PM »
Quote from: Casull on February 22, 2014, 05:22:50 AM
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Just because casull personally knows so and so doesn't mean much...could be the fighter was carrying explosives for an IED or some other task, certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate.

 
 
 
tm7, are you really that dim?  He "certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate".  I'll guess we'll have to call him an "attempted suicide bomber".  I guess you missed the part where I stated he was charging on their position with detonator in hand.  Sheeesh, if you can't come up with better than that, you should just ignore the post.     ::)




Or maybe we should just say he was an instructor with less knowledge of his subject than necessary to teach effectively . But of course from our side he was very effective .
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2014, 11:06:41 PM »
  Here's a recent event of barbarism..nearly 3 score children in a boarding school... murdered by muslim terrorists:

  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/02/muslim-terrorists-murder-59-children-in-nigeria.php

   I am still waiting for any Muslim cleric, head of state or CAIR denounce this clear act of unspeakable barbarity!  Has anyone else heard an out pouring of disgust from influential muslims?

    They caught the kids while they were sleeping...  A bit more less danger for the terrorist "heroes", I guess..
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2014, 04:17:31 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on February 27, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: Casull on February 22, 2014, 05:22:50 AM
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Just because casull personally knows so and so doesn't mean much...could be the fighter was carrying explosives for an IED or some other task, certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate.

 
 
 
tm7, are you really that dim?  He "certainly wasn't a suicide bomber because he didn't detonate".  I'll guess we'll have to call him an "attempted suicide bomber".  I guess you missed the part where I stated he was charging on their position with detonator in hand.  Sheeesh, if you can't come up with better than that, you should just ignore the post.     ::)
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Sounds like ridiculous war story,,,some guy shot carrying explosives... ::).  Unnecessary when these guys are crackerjack experts with RPGs....Ever hear of entire Osama hit team, Seal Team 6, wiped out by a 'terrorist' firing a RPG into their heliocopter?
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Agent RPRNY...poppycock, utter pablum for the gullible....Just try to recruit 19 up and coming airline pilots, that like cocaine, hookers, steak, and Stoli to all commit suicide in one firey day....Ridiculous hate peddling on your part, not to mention several still reported alive and working.  Name one event in Israel where key personnel or locations, politicos, or radical hate spieling rabbis were suicide bombed. You are as Straussian School, Machiavellian neoconic as they get....and represent what is wrong with this country, now reverting to 3rd world and feudalism....very sad.
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Or just make the plane drivers an offer they can't refuse like if you don't we will torture your families.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2014, 05:20:44 AM »
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Sounds like ridiculous war story,,,some guy shot carrying explosives... ::).  Unnecessary when these guys are crackerjack experts with RPGs....Ever hear of entire Osama hit team, Seal Team 6, wiped out by a 'terrorist' firing a RPG into their heliocopter?

 
 
 
 
Sounds much more believable than the stuff you come up with.  Additionally, unlike your conspiracies, this Marine showed ME pictures of the individual (both before and after the bomb had been detonated).  He was not "carrying explosives", but wearing a vest packed with explosives.  I'll certainly believe my eyes and the statements of this Marine over your stories.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2014, 05:42:37 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on February 16, 2014, 10:53:13 PM

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They never speak out against their radical brothers blowing stuff up, killing innocent women and children, or flying planes into tall building full of people. That kind of tells me they condone it, or really don't care enough about to to disagree with it. 

Ok there was one Muslim they rounded up that spoke out against 9/11 and they made a video of it.     
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2014, 12:25:46 PM »
TM - the tinfoil isn't blocking out the bad rays.

The two Nigerian Muslims who chopped up Fusilier Lee Rigby in Woolwich last summer were captured on camera seeking suicide by cop (sentenced 2 days ago) and joyous martyrdom contradict your 9/11 denial madness.

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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2014, 12:16:46 AM »
From TM;
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Sounds like ridiculous war story,,,some guy shot carrying explosives... ::).  Unnecessary when these guys are crackerjack experts with RPGs....Ever hear of entire Osama hit team, Seal Team 6, wiped out by a 'terrorist' firing a RPG into their heliocopter?"
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  I'm pleased you brought that up TM, because the families of the murdered Seal team 6, are right now seeking justice.

   http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/seal-team-vi-families-seek-justice/

  They believe that their loved ones were sacrificed to placate the Taliban.. and they may have a reason to suspect such an ugly betrayal;



  Perhaps you ought to try this story in your "conspiracy" forum..
 
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