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Advice from a yankee!!
« on: February 12, 2014, 02:20:11 AM »
To all my friends in the south, be careful!! Take it from a northern Ohio guy, that has lived thru 58 winters. Slow down, and stay inside if possible. As I type this, it's -12 outside, kids have a 2 hour delay, and I'm guessing school will be cancelled today, usually the bus's have a hard time warming up for the kids. You fella's usually only see this once every 20-30 years, we get them about every 4-5. All though the blizzard of '78 still sticks out pretty good in the memory banks. Good luck!! gypsyman
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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 03:12:30 AM »
I was listening to the news for a few minutes this morning and it sounded like they were taking it a little more serious this time.

You guys out east be safe.
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Catastrophic storm slams the South.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 03:15:15 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2014/02/12/millions-in-south-brace-for-potentially-catastrophic-winter-storm/
 
 Thousands of flights canceled as 'catastrophic' storm slams into South Published February 12, 2014 FoxNews.com      A massive storm that has already brought wintry weather to parts of the South slammed into the Atlanta area Wednesday, creating icy conditions on roadways and forcing airlines to cancel thousands of flights.
By 5 a.m. local time, freezing rain began falling in Atlanta, covering cars and road signs with ice, according to MyFoxAtlanta.com. The National Weather service is predicting 3 to 5 inches of snow Wednesday in cities including Atlanta, Marietta, Lawrenceville and Decatur, and heavier snow in portions of northern Georgia.
 
Georgia Power reported that more than 57,000 customers were without power early Wednesday, many of them in the Atlanta area.
The icy conditions have forced the cancellations of thousands of flights across the country, including nearly 70 percent of flights heading in and out of Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International airport, the busiest in the nation.
By Wednesday morning, more than 2,800 flights had been canceled, according to the tracking website FlightAware.com.
Delta canceled nearly 2,200 flights on Tuesday and Wednesday, most of them in Atlanta.
 
Southwest Airlines spokesman Brad Hawkins says Southwest and AirTran have canceled all flights departing from Atlanta on Wednesday, and added that the airlines are hoping to resume normal operations on Thursday morning.
Amtrak is suspending trains between New York and several destinations in the South and the auto train between Washington's northern Virginia suburbs and Orlando, Fla.
Atlanta’s bus service is also canceled for the day and local area trains are operating on reduced schedules.
In an early Wednesday memo, the National Weather Service called the storm "an event of historical proportions."
It continued: "Catastrophic ... crippling ... paralyzing ... choose your adjective."
 
From Texas to the Carolinas, roads Wednesday are slick with ice across other parts of the South as a wintry mix is falling in many areas. The Mid-Atlantic region also is expected to be hit as the storm crawls east.
Around the Deep South, slick roads were causing problems. In North Texas, at least four people died in traffic accidents on icy roads, including a Dallas firefighter who was knocked from an Interstate 20 ramp and fell 50 feet, according to a police report.
 
In northeastern Alabama, two National Guard wreckers were dispatched to help clear jackknifed 18-wheelers on Interstate 65. Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley said one lesson learned from the storm two weeks ago was to get those wreckers organized earlier.
Parts of northeast Mississippi could see up to 4 inches of snow. South Carolina, which hasn't seen a major ice storm in nearly a decade, could get a quarter to three-quarters of an inch of ice and as much as 8 inches of snow in some areas.
Prior to the storm, elected leaders and emergency management officials began warning people to stay off the roads, especially after two inches of snowfall caused an icy gridlock two weeks ago that left thousands stranded in their vehicles overnight in areas like Atlanta. It appeared many in the region around the state's capital obliged as the streets and highways of metro Atlanta were uncharacteristically unclogged Tuesday.
 
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed in a news conference at the Georgia Emergency Management Agency's special operations center Tuesday evening implored people to get somewhere safe and stay there.
"The message I really want to share is, as of midnight tonight, wherever you are, you need to plan on staying there for a while," Reed said. "The bottom line is that all of the information that we have right now suggests that we are facing an icing event that is very unusual for the metropolitan region and the state of Georgia."
 
The forecast drew comparisons to an ice storm in the Atlanta area in 2000 that left more than 500,000 homes and businesses without power and an epic storm in 1973 that caused an estimated 200,000 outages for several days. In 2000, damage estimates topped $35 million.
But the Atlanta area and other parts of the South are particularly vulnerable because there are so many trees and limbs hanging over power lines. When the ice builds up on them, limbs snap and fall, knocking out power.
"There is no doubt that this is one of Mother Nature's worst kinds of storms that can be inflicted on the South, and that is ice. It is our biggest enemy," Gov. Deal said.
 
More than 200 utility vehicles from Florida, North Carolina and other Southern states gathered in a parking lot near one of the grandstands at Atlanta Motor Speedway. The state had more than 22,000 tons of salt, 70,000 gallons of brine 45,000 tons of gravel and brought in 180 tons of additional salt and sand. The goal was to make sure at least two interstate lanes were available in each direction. Then material would be used on the most heavily used roads off the highways. Officials were also considering re-routing traffic in extreme circumstances.
Hundreds of Georgia National Guard troops were on standby in case evacuations were needed at hospitals or nursing homes, and more than 70 shelters were set to open. President Obama declared a state of emergency in Georgia, ordering federal agencies to help the state and local response during the storm. Deal said a priority for that request was generators.
 
State and local officials, chastened by tough criticism for their slow response to the Jan. 28 storm, were eager to prove they could handle winter storms.
Atlanta has a painful past of being ill-equipped to deal with snowy weather. Despite officials' promises after a crippling ice storm in 2011, the Jan. 28 storm proved they still had many kinks to work out.
As was the case in that storm, the hazardous conditions weren't expected to last. Temperatures were forecast to be in the 50s by the weekend.
At a grocery store in Greenville, S.C., Judy Roberts, 37, stocked up on bread, milk, chips and drinks before settling in at home with her children, who she predicted would be off school for several days.
 
"I don't like driving in snow. But it's beautiful," she said. "You have to make the best of it."
In Greenville, auto mechanic Chris Robinson also headed to Home Depot for batteries and other basic supplies. When wintry weather hit two weeks ago, he stocked up on a shovel and rock salt in anticipation of another round.
"Between the cold and the snow, this has been the longest winter," Robinson, 41, said. "We need a break."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Re: Catastrophic storm slams the South.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 04:14:18 AM »
Read my post, advice from a yankee- and be careful out there guys! Moderator, if you want to combine these 2 posts, do so as you please. gypsyman
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Re: Catastrophic storm slams the South.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 04:36:20 AM »
Read my post, advice from a yankee- and be careful out there guys! Moderator, if you want to combine these 2 posts, do so as you please. gypsyman
Done.

I have a hard time with these "catastrophic" storms.  I've had black ice on my driveway for 10 days and I've cleared 12 inches of snow off of that ice over the course of 2 storms.  Most of those "catastrophic" storms have already passed through here and we just drive a bit slower for a few days.  It also doesn't melt here the next day... Of course what I deal with is nothing compared to what guys in North Dakota or Michigan or whatever have to deal with.

In short, the "catastrophic" nature of these storms is significantly generated by the media and a population who doesn't know what to do with a bit of snow. 

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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 05:42:02 AM »
Well, it's an ill wind that blows no good!  ;D  I was off work yesterday and today and probably will be tomorrow... with pay!   ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 06:28:42 AM »
Here in Mn I prefer the cold. You don't have to do anything with it. Snow has to be moved and sometimes it moves back to where it was.


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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 06:53:26 AM »
A few weeks ago we were forecast to have ice.  That morning my wife took the dog for a walk and saw ice on the trees and streets.  She went into the house and called her boss.  She told him she was using common sense and staying home that day.  Too bad her boss did not do the same thing, he crunched his car on the way back home.

Problems with you southern boys and this winter weather.  You use hard compound tires designed to give long life.  They give good traction on warm pavement, and high mileage.  Those so called "All Terrain" also have a hard compound as well, and will not grip on ice, and poorly on snow.  There is little to no sipping on them.

A good winter tire is made from a soft compound, and has lots of sipping along the outer edge.  Example the Goodyear Blizzak.  Now these tires will not last long if used on dry pavement, during the summer.  They wear out fast.  Here in Alaska we have two sets of tires for each vehicle.  I have a set of tires for summer use, then a set for winter use.  Sure makes a difference in the way we get around.  I use All Terrain tires during the summer, and soft compound studded tires during the winters.  Yes I have a set of winter and summer wheels as well.

Now since it does not make sense for you boys to have a different set of wheels and tires like we do in Alaska.  It's best that you do like my wife and call in when the ice comes, and stay home.   
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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 06:55:59 AM »
 We are expecting a double Whammy later this week with high to very high winds.
 I can hardly wait. ::)
 
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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 06:59:29 AM »
Most of those southern States do not allow studded tires and in what Store would you get snow chains down South?
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Re: Advice from a yankee!!
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 07:00:31 AM »
One of my German friends says it is mandatory for tires to be switched during different seasons in Germany.  She gets a kick out of folks trying to drive in the rain, snow and ice around here.