Author Topic: Eric Holder wants felons to vote.. (Read 747 times)

ironglow · « **on:** February 12, 2014, 03:37:32 AM »

Holder wants felons to vote:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/02/holder-wants-felons-to-vote/

Coincidence.... Surveys show that felons tend to vote for Democrats..

Oh well..." Birds of a feather flock together".

gypsyman · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:11:36 AM »

I read somewhere that the DNC wants to hold the next national convention in one of the area prisons around Chicago. Less travel time and expense for the people who attend!!

gypsyman

garbhead · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:11:43 AM »

Like to see reference to the "surveys" you are referring to.

I took it to mean, if you have served your sentence and paid your debt to society, then all of your rights should be restored, because you are at "square 1"

nw_hunter · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:14:25 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on February 12, 2014, 03:37:32 AM

Holder wants felons to vote:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/02/holder-wants-felons-to-vote/

Coincidence.... Surveys show that felons tend to vote for Democrats..

Oh well..." Birds of a feather flock together".

Personally I think all Felons while incarcerated should lose privileges,with them being restored after time served. "Debt to society paid" Be they Republicans, Democrats, Independents or what ever their political affiliations.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:31:17 AM »

statistically a felon is most likely to vote democraat

garbhead · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2014, 05:13:44 AM »

Again, lets see the statistics

Plus, just guessing I would conclude that nearly 100% of all criminals don't care one way or the other about voting

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2014, 05:17:12 AM »

so he is saying felons should vote . And to think I figured the democrats didn't want anyone to vote , they just wanted to take over .

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:12:27 AM »

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Eric Holder wants felons to vote

So? If a man has served his time, give him his rights back - voting, and 2nd Amendment.

FPH · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:17:21 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on February 12, 2014, 06:12:27 AM

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Eric Holder wants felons to vote

So? If a man has served his time, give him his rights back - voting, and 2nd Amendment.

He lost those as part of his punishment.

garbhead · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:37:15 AM »

Nothing in the US Constitution has anything to say about felons losing their rights. These laws have come about thru the individual states..So if changes are made its going to be up to the individual states to make the changes.

FPH · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:46:20 AM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 12, 2014, 06:37:15 AM

Nothing in the US Constitution has anything to say about felons losing their rights. These laws have come about thru the individual states..So if changes are made its going to be up to the individual states to make the changes.

It must be deemed constitutional for states to take away rights, as the laws are considered constitutional.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:00:52 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on February 12, 2014, 06:12:27 AM

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Eric Holder wants felons to vote

So? If a man has served his time, give him his rights back - voting, and 2nd Amendment.

That is a good point . Here many felons get their rights back. Sometimes it includes gun rights other times it does not. Maybe a lawyer will explain , they get their rights but are still felons. One I know has to carry a paper stating he can buy a gun. But he marks the form as a felon.

ironglow · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:07:01 AM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 12, 2014, 04:11:43 AM

Like to see reference to the "surveys" you are referring to.

I took it to mean, if you have served your sentence and paid your debt to society, then all of your rights should be restored, because you are at "square 1"

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Here's a survey done by the University of Pennsylvania and Stanford University which says 7 of 10 felons register Democrat..
http://washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-7-in-10-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

OK, Not too late... let's hear it.. "Yup, Ironglow, I guess you were correct!"

45-70.gov · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:24:52 AM »

he just wants RAY NAYGEN not to loose his right to vote

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:25:42 AM »

So often we hear folks say.."since the felon has paid his debt"..
If for instance it were a crime like theft or fraud and the felon has gotten forgiveness, done his time , and paid everything back which he cost the victim and the state..perhaps..

However; if that crime was rape, murder, molesting children, hook someone on dope, or intentionally cause serious and permanent injury to another.. the felon may serve time, but there is no way on God's green earth he can "pay his debt"!!
How in the world can one "un-rape" a woman or child ? How can he bring back a life once taken? How can he restore the physical and mental health of somebody destroyed by dope/ and how can he make a parapalegic or Quadrapalegic to walk and function at 100% again?

garbhead · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:33:47 AM »

I can say I guess you were correct, but sure took you long enough to find something. You're supposed to start with a fact when making a statement, rather than making a "factual" statement first, then digging trying to find something to back it up.

But as always you must consider the source of your facts and their motives.

On February 1, 2005 a free daily tabloid arrived on newsstands and in mailboxes in the Washington, DC area: the Washington Examiner. The new paper is owned by Denver billionaire Philip F. Anschutz, an Evangelical Presbyterian who has bankrolled numerous ultra-conservative causes .

m-g Willy · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:48:53 AM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 12, 2014, 04:11:43 AM

Like to see reference to the "surveys" you are referring to.

I took it to mean, if you have served your sentence and paid your debt to society, then all of your rights should be restored, because you are at "square 1"

Does that mean Holder is wanting to restore their right to bear arms again?

magooch · « **Reply #17 on:** February 13, 2014, 04:01:33 AM »

In my view, all Dumycrats are felons, so of course Holder wants them to vote.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2014, 04:18:33 AM »

Quote from: magooch on February 13, 2014, 04:01:33 AM

In my view, all Dumycrats are felons, so of course Holder wants them to vote.

LOL! What a view

ironglow · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:26:54 PM »

Quote from: garbhead on February 12, 2014, 10:33:47 AM

I can say I guess you were correct, but sure took you long enough to find something. You're supposed to start with a fact when making a statement, rather than making a "factual" statement first, then digging trying to find something to back it up.
Frankly, I long have supported my statements with links etc. However, when I did post links A) They were usually disregarded B) I was chided for adding unnecessary linkage.. I'll give you credit though, you did accept the link.

But as always you must consider the source of your facts and their motives.

On February 1, 2005 a free daily tabloid arrived on newsstands and in mailboxes in the Washington, DC area: the Washington Examiner. The new paper is owned by Denver billionaire Philip F. Anschutz, an Evangelical Presbyterian who has bankrolled numerous ultra-conservative causes .
Yes we should consider the source. For instance the Daily Kos , Huff Post, The NY Times, MSNBC, and The Washington Post are run/sponsored by the far Left, does that mean everything they say is untrue? ..And yes, the first two plus MSNBC, are essentially free to the reader/viewer.