Author Topic: 25/06 or .280 (Read 1632 times)

speedrackin99 · « **on:** February 13, 2014, 10:07:00 AM »

gettin the itch ......which one mostly hunt whitetails . i know the 06 makes a sweet varmint rifle as well but already have a .243 that doubles as whitetails and varmints. leaning on the walip of yhe .280 but a little shy of the recoil .....

petemi · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:15:21 AM »

7mm-08

Pete

speedrackin99 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:42:46 AM »

ROFL i new ud chime in with that ...... my o8 is goin back to factory . got some head space issues loose when closed . it actually .... broke open today when shootin ....... staterd having some misfire issues . I think i got them goin alittle on the warm side and was tryin to cheat some with COL and built a little to much ....Press. so back it goes . was thinkin bout have frame fit for another cal but i sort of like the dedicated frame idea ...... as in whats the attraction thread . lol

twoshooter · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2014, 11:20:44 AM »

You can always load the 280 DOWN

to 7/08 levels. It really is not that much of a kicker, plus the little bit of extra weight helps compensate. If you feel the need to push it, it can be up for elk with a good load and bullet. If you did not have a 243 it would be different, I would go 25/06 then.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2014, 12:03:59 PM »

While i LOVE the .280, properly loaded, the 25/06 kills deer just as quick as the .280 and with "slightly" less recoil.

DM

watsisname · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2014, 12:32:35 PM »

I love my .280 espescially after having 3" chopped off the barrel. The 26" barrel wasn't very "handi" in the woods but now it is perfect. It is just slightly shorter than a Marlin 336 with a 20" barrel.

spruce · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2014, 12:59:50 PM »

Pick the one you WANT the most - the deer won't know the difference.

HWB13 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2014, 01:37:07 PM »

Spruce has the only answer when it comes down to brass tacks. I personally like the 06 family, but again it's what you want.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2014, 01:52:00 PM »

They are both 06 cases, One is .257 the other is .280 That is .023 difference, Not much. The recoil isn't going to be very much different. The 7mm has a lot better bullet choice, That gives you more options than the .25 cal. Both are great rounds.

You already have a .243 and it overlaps the .25 on one end, the .280 overlaps on the other end and gets close to 7mm mag on the top. That is why .25s have kinda faded out in the shooting world.

.280 all the way in my book. I have a .257 Roberts and a 7mm mauser and a 7mm Remington express AKA .280 rem. The Bob is a bolt gun thou.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2014, 02:23:42 PM »

split the difference and get a 270

but you might have trouble finding ammo for an exotic round like the 270

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2014, 02:39:53 PM »

There's considerable difference between the 25-06 and 280, the heaviest .257" bullet is about 120gr, .284" bullets run up to 160gr and 175gr, that makes a big difference to me! 280 is an elk round, 25-06 not so much.

Tim

speedrackin99 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2014, 02:40:21 PM »

Same thought my gun smith says 25/06 is fading .......as far as the 26 " barrel thats one thing that has me attracted to these in the handis , im a food plot sitter , i have a 300 sav in a 760 game master if im hittin the woods . The 243 kills em good with good bullet placement (87 gr vmax ) so no shoulders . &mm08 works well also i guess im look for that reach out and touch them with a little more wallop. Im probably gonna go the .280 route .... and keep the bullet loading supply in the .284 class , son has a #1 in 7mm mag . So many choices ....

cwlongshot · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2014, 07:17:37 PM »

Choosing one over the other I'll take the 280 hands down.

BUT BOTH are completely capable and do work perfectly for many people. I doubt you would really see allot of difference on deer sized game at any range. The 280 will be slightly better on bigger and the 25 on smaller animals.

Roger, up in Alaska uses his 25/06 handi for longer ranges than most seem possible. Both are ENTIRELY up to any task for deer sized game.

CW

Swampman · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2014, 07:31:47 PM »

The .30-06 is much cheaper to shoot and easier to find ammo for. As for the 7mm-08, a short action cartridge makes no sense in a single shot. Of the two choices you gave us I guess I'd get a .280 but you may have to order ammo.

superd · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:20:10 PM »

I am an absolute fan of the 280. However I had one on a Handi Rifle and must say that if you are a little recoil shy do not get a Handi. I have had 280s on the Ruger boat paddle stock(brutal) then got a laminate stocked Handi (a little better) now have a Rem 7600(acceptable).
If you are comfortable shooting the 30-06 on a Handi then you will be fine with the 280.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:37:58 PM »

Personally, I do not find any calibers recoil excessive from a H&R/NEF. But recoil is very subjective and personal. BUT If your worried, weight and a good recoil pad will be your best friend.

ALL my bigger calibers wear either a Kick-EEZ, Limbsaver or Pachmayer DE-Cellorator recoil pad. Lam stocks, are a bit heavier and will help tone down snappy kickers.

CW

mechanic · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2014, 10:14:16 PM »

280.

Ben

BBF · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2014, 12:41:58 AM »

Neither.

Westbound · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:35:40 AM »

For what it's worth, I own a Handis in 25.06 and 270. The 280 and the 270 are dang near identical. The 270 with 140 grain bullets kicks a little more than the 25, but it's not brutal by any means. Since you already have a 243, you might consider the 270 or 280 to get access to a little better choice in heavier bullets.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:54:28 AM »

Quote from: Westbound on February 20, 2014, 07:35:40 AM

For what it's worth, I own a Handis in 25.06 and 270. The 280 and the 270 are dang near identical. The 270 with 140 grain bullets kicks a little more than the 25, but it's not brutal by any means. Since you already have a 243, you might consider the 270 or 280 to get access to a little better choice in heavier bullets.

Thing is, for whitetails, in .257" diameter, you don't need any heavier bullets than is already offered, as in...there's NO advantage to a heavier bullet in .257"...

DM

Spanky · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2014, 11:43:19 AM »

I've got Handi's in 25-06, 270, 280 and 30-06 and I've killed deer with all of them. There's not a single bit of difference when it comes to whitetails... any of them will flatten one on the spot. I shoot 120gr. bullets in the 25, 130's in the 270, 150's in the 280 and 150's in the 30. Recoil isn't an issue with any of them while hunting but the 280 and 30 might beat you up a little if you spend a long time at the bench. Since you already have a 243 the 25 is sort of redundant. The 270 is a great do it all cartridge for deer and varmints. The 280 and especially the 30 will let you shoot much heavier bullets than the other two if you ever plan on hunting larger game.
So to answer your question... 25 or 280... I'll say 280.

Spanky

cudatruck · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2014, 04:41:23 PM »

Hey CW, I did find excessive recoil in a handi rifle! Just keep putting powder in that .45-70 under a 405 and recoil gets damned intolerable for me! Found out I need to keep mine down to trapdoor levels. Now I know. Oh don't want any turkey loads finding there way into the 12 ga handi either.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2014, 06:45:21 PM »

Quote from: cudatruck on February 20, 2014, 04:41:23 PM

Hey CW, I did find excessive recoil in a handi rifle! Just keep putting powder in that .45-70 under a 405 and recoil gets damned intolerable for me! Found out I need to keep mine down to trapdoor levels. Now I know. Oh don't want any turkey loads finding there way into the 12 ga handi either.

I limit my 45-70 handi loads to about 16-1700 for a 400g bullet. (My long standing 400g@2000 that I use in my Marlins and Browning, smarts a bit too. ) 12Ga I don't notice it being excessive. I shoot quite a few 12g sluggers in my 5# shorty.

The one that I thought did ''kick'' was my 500S&W with a 500g slug at 1700 fps...

CW

twentynine · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:28:01 PM »

25-06

Couger · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:53:42 AM »

If I ever get my Encore equipped the way I want,

top two user-barrels will be the 26-inch .280
and 26-inch (or 24?) .257 Roberts!

In the Handi-Rifle, the .280 I had was a sweet, sweet shooter! Would like to replace it.

Have never liked the 25-06.

If I couldn't have a .257 Rbts, would then strongly consider a .250 Sav - for deer and pronghorns.

Ol BW · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2014, 06:13:02 AM »

I have always been fascinated with both, but never owned either. I believe they both come with the longer barrel so you cannot use that criteria to eliminate one. I tend to agree that the deer won't know the difference.

Personally, if I had to choose one and already had the 243 I would pick the 280.

I believe if its all the same to you, buy the one you can find ammo or components for and stock up!

BW

spikehorn · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2014, 07:39:40 AM »

There was less felt recoil from my 280 than my 308. Just a mild shove I was surprised the first time I shot it. go with the 7MM-06 AKA the 280

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2014, 07:55:50 AM »

Also known as the 7mm rem express, It's original name.

Just curious fellers.....How hard is it to find .25-06 ammo where you live?

Around here where I live you don't see a lot of it, .280 is much more common.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:58:16 AM »

Quote from: Badnews Bob on February 21, 2014, 07:55:50 AM

Also known as the 7mm rem express, It's original name.

It's "original" name WAS .280 Remington...

DM

quickdtoo · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2014, 01:42:14 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.280_Remington