Jan Brewer will capitulate- you heard it here first :)

[two-blocked]

Big Business to Arizona: Gay Discrimination Bill Bad for Economy

Apple, American Airlines and Marriott delivered a message to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Monday: State legislation allowing companies to discriminate against gays on religious grounds would be bad for business.

The conservative Republican governor is facing growing pressure over the bill, which the statehouse passed last Thursday. Opponents have called it "state-sanctioned discrimination" and an embarrassment.

Apple and a slew of big-name firms issued letters and made phone calls to Brewer on Monday telling her the state would take a financial hit if the law passed, according to CNBC.

Apple is just about to open large new glass manufacturing plant in Mesa, Arizona.

Marriott, meanwhile, noted that their bottom-line could suffer as a result of the bill.

This measure "would have profound negative impacts on the hospitality industry on the Arizona and on the state's overall economic climate for years to come," the hotel chain said in a statement.

American Airlines noted how deeply Arizona suffered during the recession and said: "Our economy thrives best when the doors of commerce are open to all. This bill sends the wrong message."

The state's to U.S. Senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake, both Republican, also weighed in on Twitter, asking for a veto, and the Arizona Super Bowl Host Committee — the state will host football's premier event next year — said it didn't support the legislation.

A trio of Republican Arizona state lawmakers even urged a veto on Monday, despite earlier supporting it.

The three state senators, who initially voted in favor of the measure, said in a letter to Brewer that the proposal had been mistakenly approved in haste and had already caused "immeasurable harm" to Arizona's national image.

"While our sincere intent in voting for this bill was to create a shield for all citizens' religious liberties, the bill has instead been mischaracterized by its opponents as a sword for religious intolerance," read the letter by state Senators Adam Driggs, Steve Pierce and Bob Worsley.

The measure, which passed the state Senate 17-13 in a party line vote, would have failed in the Senate had those three voted against it.

Brewer said over the weekend that she's "got plenty of time," to make a decision on whether or not to sign or veto the bill. She has until Friday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/big-business-arizona-gay-discrimination-bill-bad-economy-n37711

[ironglow]

TB ;

  You really ought to read the whole truth;
        http://www.christianpost.com/news/issue-analysis-arizona-bill-does-not-give-businesses-license-to-discriminate-against-gays-115093/

   Two Blocked;   
  Do you really appreciate these strong-arm tactics being practiced by these corps?  Do you believe it is a worthwhile goal to force somebody to go against their firmly held convictions? 
     Most of us I believe, would say a person should be allowed to serve or not serve whoever they wish..

   For instance

  Would you be in favor of a black merchant being forced to sell sheets or ropes to a rowdy klan gang?

  On cold winter days, should abortion clinics be forced to give pro-life demonstrators a place in their office to warm up?

  Should a muslim or Jewish run restaurant, be forced to serve demanding customers roast pork?

  Should the "gay pride" parades in various cities be forced to allow anti-gay groups along with their signs in their parades?

  Think a bit about that!

[Dee]

Ironglow, I "think" that, "THINK", is a "key word". Ya "THINK"?

[two-blocked]

No kidding, those are lame analogies.
Think H think!

[Dee]

Ironglow's analogy is a good one, and when applied to his examples as well as others show the truth of the matter, unless one is a "one size fits all" socialist. Then no example will satisfy the liberal socialist. UNTIL, the law falls into the socialist's lap. Then they scream like a woman.
Free enteprize isn't free any more. The liberal socialist wont have it.

[lgm270]

The goal of the Orwellian, mis-named "Civil Rights" movement, at every level, is  to destroy the right of freedom of association and freedom of contract.

Brown v. Bd. kind of led the way by vesting blacks with property rights in captive white children.

The Civil Rights Act of '64 destroyed the rights of freedom of association and freedom of contract and elevated the privileged "non-white" species to superior legal status and lowered whites to a subordinate legal status. 

None of these "civil rights" laws are ever enforced against non-whites for their racial discrimination.  Civil Rights laws are only enforced against white people. All other groups can have their own  racially separate "communities", newspapers, schools, churches, professional organizations, businesses, etc.  Only whites are sued for "discriminating" in favor of other white people and trying to separate themselves from harmful associations with outsiders. 

[guzzijohn]

Quote from igm270:
"The goal of the Orwellian, mis-named "Civil Rights" movement, at every level, is  to destroy the right of freedom of association and freedom of contract.


Brown v. Bd. kind of led the way by vesting blacks with property rights in captive white children.


The Civil Rights Act of '64 destroyed the rights of freedom of association and freedom of contract and elevated the privileged "non-white" species to superior legal status and lowered whites to a subordinate legal status. 


None of these "civil rights" laws are ever enforced against non-whites for their racial discrimination.  Civil Rights laws are only enforced against white people. All other groups can have their own  racially separate "communities", newspapers, schools, churches, professional organizations, businesses, etc.  Only whites are sued for "discriminating" in favor of other white people and trying to separate themselves from harmful associations with outsiders."


Yawn.
GuzziJohn

[powderman]

I emailed Jan Brewer. I see another post was deleted. POWDERMAN. 

[mcbammer]

Going  to  be  interesting  to see  if  Jan  caves  in  to  special  interest  . 

[guzzijohn]

She better be careful. The Kansas house passed a like bill recently but it got shot down in the Senate. If one goes by street interviews and editorials by many Kansas newspapers including some very conservative Western Kansas newspapers is that the house conservatives better start packing their bags because THEY WILL BE OUT OF THERE COME NEXT ELECTION.
GuzziJohn

[RPRNY]

I believe that the whole of the Constitution, including the 14 Amendment, Section 1, is the law of the land, not just the parts that I like. I find that Liberals seem to have a problem with the concept that laws may not be passed that violate the Constitution. It appears that many posters above suffer from the same affliction.

No law can be passed requiring business owners to have sex with gays patronizing their establishments. No law can require business owners to play show tunes or broadcast the Ellen show on their entertainment systems. The Constitution says that no State shall pass a law that denies any person within its jurisdiction equal protection under the laws. The Arizona law would do that. You can dance around that all day but you can't change that fact.

And how would Arizona's legislature have business owners identify the offending homos. Would it be a "don't ask, don't tell" policy? Would any man showing insufficient interest in a sports broadcast in the bar be shown the door? Perhaps women showing an insufficient interest in their male admirers would be ejected as Lesbians?  Or maybe the legislature would also pass a law establishing means to identify the gays. They could be forced to wear pink triangles sewn to the outside of their clothes...

And why stop at gays? Why should Muslim business owners be forced to serve Jews? Again, there must be a way that the law could require them to be identified...

This law is hypocrisy incarnate. It is as objectionable and unconstitutional as New York's so called SAFE Act. Either you accept the whole Constitution or you are no different than the Liberals that don't.

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[lgm270]

Has anybody else noticed that every time some new "civil rights" law is passed we have less freedom? 

What's the deal with queers who can't keep from forcing themselves on normal people who want nothing to do with them?  What's the deal with Mexicans who come to the US to steal a "better life" from Americans instead of creating a better life in their own land?  Mexicans have had their own country for 500 years.  Mexico was colonized 100 years before North America and should be hundred years ahead of us instead of 250 years behind us.

What's the deal with blacks who  run away from Haiti and  Somalia  and flee to a  white neighborhood for a "better life?" 

Where will they go when there are no more whites to pursue, loot and exploit?   

[powderman]

She better be careful. The Kansas house passed a like bill recently but it got shot down in the Senate. If one goes by street interviews and editorials by many Kansas newspapers including some very conservative Western Kansas newspapers is that the house conservatives better start packing their bags because THEY WILL BE OUT OF THERE COME NEXT ELECTION.
GuzziJohn

 
Better to back God and be out of work than to see God fearing people forced to bake funnybunny cakes, etc. Let em stick candles in twinkies, which would be appropriate. POWDERMAN. 

[Dee]

Has anybody else noticed that every time some new "civil rights" law is passed we have less freedom? 

What's the deal with queers who can't keep from forcing themselves on normal people who want nothing to do with them?  What's the deal with Mexicans who come to the US to steal a "better life" from Americans instead of creating a better life in their own land?  Mexicans have had their own country for 500 years.  Mexico was colonized 100 years before North America and should be hundred years ahead of us instead of 250 years behind us.

What's the deal with blacks who  run away from Haiti and  Somalia  and flee to a  white neighborhood for a "better life?" 

Where will they go when there are no more whites to pursue, loot and exploit?

I'm Cherokee IGM270. We been sayin that about you white boys for over 200 years. Where will you white boys go when there's no more American Indians to pursue, loot, and exploit?

[lgm270]

Has anybody else noticed that every time some new "civil rights" law is passed we have less freedom? 

What's the deal with queers who can't keep from forcing themselves on normal people who want nothing to do with them?  What's the deal with Mexicans who come to the US to steal a "better life" from Americans instead of creating a better life in their own land?  Mexicans have had their own country for 500 years.  Mexico was colonized 100 years before North America and should be hundred years ahead of us instead of 250 years behind us.

What's the deal with blacks who  run away from Haiti and  Somalia  and flee to a  white neighborhood for a "better life?" 

Where will they go when there are no more whites to pursue, loot and exploit?

I'm Cherokee IGM270. We been sayin that about you white boys for over 200 years. Where will you white boys go when there's no more American Indians to pursue, loot, and exploit?

We white boys taught  "people" like you to stop scalping  each other and to use indoor plumbing instead of a hole in the ground.   We mastered shipbuilding and navigation skills and embarked on voyages  of discovery....the signature achievement of  the white race.   Ultimately whites  mastered aeronautics, built space ships and  embarked on voyages of discovery to the moon and the reaches of outer space. 

You would not be on the internet on a computer powered with electricity with out  the contributions of intellectually superior white people who led the way.

Count your blessings and thank people who gave you  a great life you could never have created for yourself.  You need us. We don't need you.

[Dee]

Yea, thanks for all that debt and pollution. You intellectually superior white boys sure did fix us up alright. And the genecide. That was nice too. I think we could have skipped the white invasion, murdering, lies, and thieving, and been better off without y'all. Why don't y'all go back to Europe and finish messin that one up. You've made a hellava mess over here. 

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[powderman]

lgm. You've made it pretty plain ever since you came here that you hate blacks, now apparently that hatred and bigotry includes American Indians too. I'm part Cherokee, you hate me too?? What about those JEWS?? Ya hate them too?? Your colors, or should I say COLOR is showing. POWDERMAN. 

[two-blocked]

Now we have the pot calling the kettle black!


Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood.

Coretta Scott King

[Conan The Librarian]

Arizona business is Arizona business. It's nobody else's business, especially not the federal government's.

[lgm270]

Wrong!  It's only White people don't get to decide who sits at the lunch counter.  All other racial  groups can have their own "communities" and can exclude those who are offensive to them.   One "minority" group, the Jews, actually have their own country to themselves. That country is generously funded by billions of tax dollars extracted from American Christians.   

In the 1992 Rodney King Riots in LA, blacks targeted non-black business for looting and arson.  "Black businesses" were spared.  For whites to even have so called "White businesses" would be illegal.  In LA Blacks have their own "black" newspaper, The Sentinel.  All black owned, all black writers, etc.  No white people would ever  be allowed to have a "white" newspaper."  The whole purpose of Civil Rights Laws is to destroy the rights of freedom of association and freedom of contract for white people.  All other groups are allowed to organize their own race based organizations. Only whites must compete in the racial spoils system as isolated individuals.

 Non-whites have hundreds of racial organizations (NAACP, La Raza,  ADL etc.)  to advance their separate and distinct racial interests.  Whites are not allowed to have any "white" organizations.  Not a single "White" civil rights" organization is allowed to even exist.   

Now we have "gays", another disgusting  deviant group, trying to force themselves on normal people who want nothing to do with them.

Question:    Why don't gays have their own country somewhere  where they can sodomize each other in peace?

Answer:  It's impossible for same-sex  deviants,  who don't reproduce,  to maintain a country of their own.  These parasitic deviants are dependent on normal healthy people to produce children from which new "gays" can be molested and recruited.   Like tapeworms, these  parasites are dependent  on healthy host organisms for survival.

Normal people don't go into bath houses or gay bars  and interfere with gays sodomizing each other.   Gays  should return the favor and respect the rights of normal, healthy people to exercise the right of freedom of association.   

[lgm270]

Yea, thanks for all that debt and pollution. You intellectually superior white boys sure did fix us up alright. And the genecide. That was nice too. I think we could have skipped the white invasion, murdering, lies, and thieving, and been better off without y'all. Why don't y'all go back to Europe and finish messin that one up. You've made a hellava mess over here. 

"genecide"?   

If you hate whites so much, give up your white electricity, white computers, white internet, white telephone, white television, white automobiles,  and white indoor plumbing,  white written language,  etc.

Without white people you would have no computer on which to post hateful, anti-white, racist comments and no written language ....you'd  be using smoke signals.   

[ironglow]

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  TB;
  Are you trying to equate black people with homosexuals ?  Just FYI.. not all of them would agree with you..

   http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/black-pastors-want-eric-holder-impeached/

  You and your pals ought to get accustomed to this idea; surely the black folks I know don't like being used as a pawn in any "gay rights" issue !

[magooch]

I would hope that Governor Brewer grows a pair and signs the bill into law, but that's probably asking for too much in this queer world.

[guzzijohn]

Quote from magooch:
"I would hope that Governor Brewer grows a pair and signs the bill into law, but that's probably asking for too much in this queer world."


If she does grow a pair she will become part of that world she is so scared of.
GuzziJohn

[magooch]

Not showing much respect for hermaphrodites now are we?

[m-g Willy]

This whole bill has been blown out of proportion.
It started out because a baker did not want to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage.
Nothing about not selling baked goods to gays.
Just a Christian man refusing to make a cake celebrating something sinful.
Would it be wrong for the baker to say he isn't going to make a cake celebrating some satanic ritual?
Or should he be made to make pagen offerings to any group that wants one?
This was never about not serving any group because you don't agree with them.
It was about NOT having to give up your rights because a group thinks you should cater to their views!
btw- to everyone talking about their own kind ,,like black , indian, gay ,straight.....
There is only (((2)))) groups in this world that matters.
BELIEVERS  and NON-BELIEVERS 

[powderman]

I would hope that Governor Brewer grows a pair and signs the bill into law, but that's probably asking for too much in this queer world.

 
MAGOOCH. Agreed Sir. I've sent several emails urging her  to sign the bill. Lift up God and Christians, instead of perverts and other libby dems. POWDERMAN. 

[Hairy Chest]

Lgm270 is only stating the old conservative view that lets people decide how to run their affairs, not have a big Marxist bureaucracy trying to impose it's social order on us.  Pat Buchanan addressed this topic and is saying the same things as Lgm270. RPNRY also sounded OK.   

The rest, you need to quit fooling us.  We know the deceptive liberals that you are.  Nobody's fooled by your antics pretending to be this or that type of a Republican anymore.     

http://buchanan.org/blog/freedom-dies-6255

[two-blocked]

Once again the greatest country on earth shows why it's the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Rock on America!

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Vetoes Anti-Gay Bill
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/arizona-bill-controversy/arizona-governor-jan-brewer-vetoes-anti-gay-bill-n39666