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Bitcoin bust.
« on: February 25, 2014, 01:28:19 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/25/major-bitcoin-exchange-website-goes-offline/
 
 Major Bitcoin exchange website goes offline Published February 25, 2014 Associated Press     
  • Japan Bitcoin Mt_Cham640.jpg  February 25, 2014: Bitcoin trader Kolin Burges, right, of London and American Aaron (only his first name was given) hold protest signs as they conduct a sit-in in front of the office tower housing Mt. Gox in Tokyo. The website of major Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox is offline Tuesday amid reports it suffered a debilitating theft, a new setback for efforts to gain legitimacy for the virtual currency. (AP Photo)
  • Japan Bitcoin Mt Gox_Cham640.jpg  FILE - In this Feb. 12, 2014 file photo, attendees of the Inside Bitcoins conference in Berlin examine Bitcoin buttons. (AP Photo)
  Next Slide Previous Slide   TOKYO –  A major bitcoin exchange has gone bust after secretly racking up catastrophic losses, other virtual currency companies said Tuesday — a potentially fatal blow for the exotic new form of money.
The website of Tokyo-based Mt. Gox was returning a blank page Tuesday. The disappearance of the site follows the resignation Sunday of Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles from the board of the Bitcoin Foundation, a group seeking legitimacy for the currency, and a withdrawal ban imposed at the exchange earlier this month.
 
 
'At the risk of appearing hyperbolic, this could be the end of Bitcoin.'
- a statement published on the blog of entrepreneur and Bitcoin enthusiast said. Prominent members of the Bitcoin community — including San Francisco-based wallet service Coinbase and Chinese exchange BTC China — sought to shore up confidence in the currency by saying Mt. Gox's collapse was an isolated case of mismanagement. They said it had abused users' trust, but did not offer details on how.
 
"As with any new industry, there are certain bad actors that need to be weeded out, and that is what we are seeing today," the statement said.
Documents purportedly leaked from the company lay out the scale of the problem. An 11-page "Crisis Strategy Draft" published on the blog of entrepreneur and Bitcoin enthusiast Ryan Selkis says that 740,000 bitcoins are missing from Mt. Gox, which roughly translates to hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of losses, although figures are fuzzy given Bitcoin's extreme volatility.
 
"At the risk of appearing hyperbolic, this could be the end of Bitcoin, at least for most of the public," the draft said.
In a post to his blog, Selkis said that the document was handed to him by a "reliable source" and that several people close to the company had confirmed the figures. Reached by phone, he declined further comment. The Japanese government, meanwhile, has not announced any formal investigation.
The scandal may cost customers dear.
 
At the Tokyo office tower housing Mt. Gox, bitcoin trader Kolin Burges said he had picketed the building since Feb. 14 after flying in from London, hoping to get back $320,000 he has tied up in bitcoins with Mt. Gox.
"I may have lost all of my money," said Burgess, next to placards asking if Mt. Gox is bankrupt. "It hasn't shaken my trust in Bitcoin, but it has shaken my trust in bitcoin exchanges."
Mt. Gox CEO Karpeles did not immediately return several messages seeking comment. A security officer at the office tower said no one from Mt. Gox was in the building. Tibbane, an Internet company that Karpeles is CEO of, still has its name listed on the building's directory.
 
"I have no idea" where they are, said Burges, the trader. "I'm both annoyed and worried."
On bitcoin exchanges, the currency's value has fallen to about $470 from $550 in the past few hours, a figure already down more than 50 percent on the price of $1,200 per bitcoin reached on Mt. Gox three months ago.
The disappearance of Mt. Gox could be fatal for Bitcoin, which was started in 2009 as a currency free from government controls. Bitcoin's boosters say the currency's design make it impossible to counterfeit and difficult to manipulate, and the virtual money has won an eclectic mix of die-hard fans, including libertarians, tech enthusiasts and adventurous investors.
 
But the currency has struggled to shake off its associations with criminality, particularly its role in powering the now-defunct online drug marketplace Silk Road. Only last month another member of the Bitcoin Foundation, Vice Chairman Charlie Shrem, was arrested at New York's Kennedy Airport on charges of money laundering.
Authorities have been taking an increasingly hard look at Bitcoin and related virtual currencies including Litecoin, Namecoin, Ripple, and countless others. Some countries, including Russia, have effectively banned the currency. In other jurisdictions, authorities are weighing whether to try to tame the marketplace through licenses or other mechanisms.
 
Even if Mt. Gox doesn't drag Bitcoin down with it, there's fear that the exchange's demise will push officials to take an even more skeptical stance.
"I think this is disastrous from a (regulatory) standpoint," Selkis, the enthusiast, said in a message posted to Twitter. "The hammer will now come down hard."
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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 04:51:34 AM »
Fools - they should have realized bitcoin was almost as unstable as the U.S. dollar! ::)

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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 06:11:58 AM »
Remember when stocks in computer based companies lost a lot of money for investors ?
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 06:41:38 AM »
Dang I guess that means I've lost another few billion of net worth. Pretty soon I'll be broke. Oh wait I've been that way for years already.  :o


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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 01:00:54 PM »
Make believe money!! Think I'll go in one of the closet's, and dig out the old Monopoly game. Better than hitting the lottery!! gypsyman
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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 07:01:22 PM »
It's funny, I still carry money... :)
 
I'm 58, have 3 grown daughters and they and my wife sometimes give me little
digs about not having a debit card...I prefer to go to the bank, get a couple of hundreds
and keep up with what I spend...For larger purchases I either write a check, put it on the
credit card or save until I have the money...

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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 08:43:43 PM »
It's funny, I still carry money... :)
 
I'm 58, have 3 grown daughters and they and my wife sometimes give me little
digs about not having a debit card...I prefer to go to the bank, get a couple of hundreds
and keep up with what I spend...For larger purchases I either write a check, put it on the
credit card or save until I have the money...






Same here.
It's called conducting your business the old fashion way and it still works.






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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 10:14:54 PM »
Some folks would do well to take a 400 year old tip...


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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 02:53:11 AM »
The old fashion way is barter in chicken, eggs, pigs and cows.
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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 12:06:30 PM »
Spruce,


LOL ROFLMAO! Now that's funny!

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 12:08:04 PM »
Long Tom,


I do the same. People who spend in cash tend to spend less, and that is good!

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Re: Bitcoin bust.
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2014, 12:12:31 PM »
dadgum! i wish i had $320,000.00 spendable
dollars sitting around. i durn sure wouldn't
give it to no snake oil salesman to let him
"make money" with it.


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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2014, 09:14:33 PM »
It just dawned on me, what your seeing here. This generation of kids,( I'll call them since their all probably in their 20's) are living in their computer bubble. Real life has not set in yet, they are so into doing things on a computer, since they were born, that's their entire life. Boy, not sure how many might survive the next decade, boy, are they in for a rude awakening!! Don't know if I'll be around, sure would like to see the look on any of their faces when they finally wake up. gypsyman
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