definitely came early here this year. About 8 inches in my front yard. Good thing is I haven't even bow hunted because ive got a bunch of bear coming in to my feed and bear poop so thick you can hardly walk in there. One deer on the camera in the last month and that was a doe at 3am. The snow and cold should send them to there dens. Going out there today to pull the chip out of the camera. Im hoping!