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Offline Bob Riebe

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Actual severity
« on: March 26, 2020, 06:00:14 AM »
ON a local/regional radio talk show just a short time ago, a first responder to health calls told the simple truth
.He said it is only because this is being tracked live daily, on broadcast networks,  that the supposed nasty numbers are being USED to put fear in people.He said if the same system was being used to track flu deaths this virus scam would seem minor or normal.

He slated many of the people dying were going to DIE ANY WAY, their deaths are just being used to the purpose here to make this seem worse than it is.
He said he has been a first responder for a long time and people are just ignorant , because they have no reason to check the actual numbers, of how many people die in hospitals every month due to disease.
He and the radio host agreed it is also asinine the  Minnesota Gov. wants to lock every one in their houses but has not shut down the airport that is bringing people in from supposed disease ridden NY City.

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 06:31:22 AM »
That does make a lot of sense Bob. I've been hearing the same thing from doctors and nurses.
My big sister is a doctor in upstate NY. My nephew is a doctor in Boston. They both are saying these
numbers are very misinterpreted by the media.


Meaning, they really don't know, or they are lying to the public.

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 08:04:21 AM »
  So, China, the Media, the dems, pretty much the whole world fighting the G-d raised up President of the United States.-

"He stated many of the people dying were going to DIE ANY WAY, their deaths are just being used to the purpose here to make this seem worse than it is.He said he has been a first responder for a long time and people are just ignorant ,"

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 04:39:49 AM »
There is definitely something wrong with these numbers.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2020, 06:19:07 PM »
I just found out from Fox TV that the only people who ever said that the virus was weaponized virus was U.S.A. main stream media that created this load of b.s.
No other paper from any other source , ever, made even a hint of that.It seems that the bats blamed for this do not have a colony with 500 miles of the city of Wuhan but they did say that the science place there was using some other bats for experiments and the careless waste disposal may have sent virus contamination into the general public.

The two Chinese scientists that warned of this release of possible dangerous waste have suddenly ---- disappeared.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2020, 01:02:05 AM »
sure don't believe its was a weapon. But I don't have my head in the sand. The figure 100s of thousands of china citizens are dead and over a 100000 will die here in the next week or two. Just over publicized??? Look at the bodys stacked up in NY right now at ever morge and the refriderated trucks outside hospitals with bodys in them. Tell me when you've seen that before!!!  Maybe its plastered all over the news. So be it. Many are stupid blockheads that think they cant die. Many are to stupid to understand that even if there a tough sob they could easily spread it to others. When I see an nuke air craft carrier brought to its knees buy a virus im not stupid enough to make light of it. This is real. Either respect that or die. Your choice. Personal I could care less where it came from, whos fault it was or who made it worse here. That's the past and it fixes nothing. Frick___ democrats are so crazy they want to waste time with committees looking to place blame. Want a committee? How about one that helps organize this country or feed this country or save lives. Schiff should be escorted out of the house by police!! Nancy and shummer along with him. They too are a disease  we suffer with. My God even the liberals have to be getting sick of those three. Me?  I want to here every word and every opinion by my president and doctors EVERY day. My head is straight up and im paying attention. If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend this is less then it is then send me your address so I can send flowers!
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2020, 05:27:40 AM »
Lloyd, all Navy and Marine leaves are canceled until further notice. We know a young couple whose son is a
Marine out in CA and he was due,and approved for a leave. But it was canceled. His parents said he can't even
leave the Base.

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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 08:21:59 AM »
People better pull their heads out, and they better do it quickly.This nightmare is real, and it looks like it's just getting started.
I'm living on borrowed time anyway with my copd. The common cold kicks my azz. It's doing it right now. During these spells I live on my nebulizer. It keeps me breathing. I know that if I get this virus,it's over for me. There are people all over this country with lung and heart problems. Like me,they  cannot afford to get this Chinese monster. The best we can do at this time is to quarantine ourselves as best we can, and wait it out. And it's not just us old,worn out codgers! It's killing our young as well. I thought I had seen it all! Not even close.
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Re: Actual severity
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2020, 08:42:21 AM »
  •    covid 19 mortality rate by age chart          Shayanne Gal/Business Insider   Notably, the research showed that patients ages 10 to 19 had the same chance of dying from COVID-19 as patients in their 20s and 30s, but the disease appeared to be much more fatal in people ages 50 and over.
Some people are susceptible to this, at any age, but the Flu is far, far, far more dangerous to the very young.

The 2017–2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths. This is the highest number of patient claims since the 2009 flu season. While 186 pediatric deaths were reported to the CDC, it is estimated that there were in reality more than 600 total pediatric deaths nationwide related to influenza. This estimation of three times the reported pediatric deaths was arrived at based on the observation that only about every third child who died with a suspicion of a viral background was tested for influenza

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Re: Actual severity
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 12:13:33 PM »
NW Hunter:Do not think I think you should just roll over and die, despite my hard arse tone.

My sig's. brother-in-law dies a few years back of COPD, her sister died less than two years after that for simply not doing what the doctors said; she did not trust them and thought they should do as she said.
Both went from amazingly healthy to dead within a year of diagnosis so you are in my prayers and I cannot fathom what it is like to have a health problem that, short of a miracle will never go away.

I have been in the hospital multiple times for some thing that should have killed me; the last time that thought meant nothing to me but being couped up in hospital for over a month with no sighn of getting out go to my head in a bad way for a short bit.People who work for God eliminated that problem through communion and just coming to see me.
Godspeed Hunter and I mean that.

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Re: Actual severity
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2020, 01:55:04 PM »
Folks are buying up UV lights. Amazon is sold out.


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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 03:22:53 AM »
I appreciate the kind words. Were all going to experience a physical death. We all hope to live as long as we can, and  enjoy it as best we can.
I've been blessed with a wonderful wife for 50 plus years, and many grand and even great grand children to enjoy the company of.
If I go tomorrow, I'm not afraid,but I'm a stubborn, hard headed old fart, and will keep on plugging away. Stay safe Bob!
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 04:45:08 AM »

I found this very interesting interview by Joe Rogan on his podcast with Michael Osterholm, The Director of Infectious Disease Research And Policy. They discus this Corona virus and other infectious diseases. This guy makes more sense to me than anyone I've watched so far. Well worth the watch folks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2020, 05:55:39 AM »
Here's the Joe Rogan interview  on Mar 10th.

Tim

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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2020, 06:12:37 AM »
The government is warning people about using UVC for long periods of time.It can also be deadly to humans.
And A&B really aren't all that effective. Folks are messing around with radiation. Light crews use C, but they
are trained and wear protective gear. That's why they close off streets and keep people out of a building or an area that's being cleared.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2020, 06:20:08 AM »
Good shot mentioned a machine that hospitals are useing to sterilize a room. Its C, and some chemicals they put into the air,no one is allowed in that room. Thailand is using C on there own people. They walk through a tunnel
with the lights all along the walls. The BBC is saying they are basically frying people, and there is a good
chance they will end up with skin cancer.


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200327-can-you-kill-coronavirus-with-uv-light

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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2020, 10:52:20 PM »
Bob if these facts are true why didn't the health workers run out of ventilators? Why didn't they scream for protective gear, why werent police, firefighers and first responders panicing or even wearing masks. Why weren't the morgues overflowing. Why weren't refrigerated trucks parked outside hospitals. Why didn't the news even bother talking about it. Why did our president invoke orders to FORCE GM to make medical gear.  Sorry im not buying. Theres reasons that this is different. Its much more contagious and much stronger. Our president will tell you that as will the surgeon general and the most qualified doctors in the world. Do you really think president Trump wanted the economy of our nation to crash just months before his reelection. there is absolutely nothing our government can gain by telling you to stay at home faking a pandemic. Just the thought of that conspiracy theory is almost hysterical. Don't know about where you live but ive never seen any flu in my lifetime take out hundreds of people in Michigan in one day and the number of deaths doubling about every day and we are not even the worse state. I guess I just don't get it. Why would anyone want to take a chance. One month of staying at home is no big deal even if it just saves one life!!! Especially if its mine. Im 64 now. Yup getting up there but id like to think ive got 10 or 15 more good years to shoot, hunt, fish, play with my cars and trucks. If sitting in the house for a month insures that then its a no brainer.
  •    covid 19 mortality rate by age chart          Shayanne Gal/Business Insider   Notably, the research showed that patients ages 10 to 19 had the same chance of dying from COVID-19 as patients in their 20s and 30s, but the disease appeared to be much more fatal in people ages 50 and over.
Some people are susceptible to this, at any age, but the Flu is far, far, far more dangerous to the very young.

The 2017–2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths. This is the highest number of patient claims since the 2009 flu season. While 186 pediatric deaths were reported to the CDC, it is estimated that there were in reality more than 600 total pediatric deaths nationwide related to influenza. This estimation of three times the reported pediatric deaths was arrived at based on the observation that only about every third child who died with a suspicion of a viral background was tested for influenza
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