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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Why some churches defy the ban on gathering.
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 11:34:19 AM »
   A tough one Charlie, we are so far from where He would have us be in relationship, few know how to pray, live a life that will enable firm and effectual prayer, or have the hunger and thirst for things of G-d that we are to have that He has made medicine effective too.
 Few Christians I know live in a manner where the wicked one touches them not, so we "doctor", but many think "dr" before they think Jesus, He still requires, deserves, is worthy of.
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Re: Why some churches defy the ban on gathering.
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 12:20:37 AM »
same nut cases that refuse to vaccinate kids. Same mindset that helped spread the plague and small pox. Same nut cases that refuse Cemo and try to pray cancer away. they forget that God gave us the intelligence to realize that gathering today is not only stupid but risks harming his chrildren. Enough sense to know that a prayer said at home has the same power as one said in some building you designated your church. He doesn't need us proving were so stupid that we think we can do anything just by saying were doing it for him. So one of you gets exposed (its inevitable if you don't have the sense to follow the rules) you infect another church member. I guess so what, you asked for it by being that stupid. But that member goes home and maybe infects someone in the grocery store because if your stupid enough to gather at church your sure stupid enough to go in the grocery store without a mask. Now a couple 80 year old ladys get infected and maybe one of them passes it on to a grandchild. How (censored word) stupid can you be. ALL TO PUT ON SOME KIND OF SHOW TO IMPRESS SOMEONE ELSE HOW CHRISTIAN YOU ARE!!! Sometimes I think marshal law might be the answer. At least it would take the people to stupid that would risk others and lock them up. I hope when you show up to church tomorrow you go there knowing that some old lady or child may be killed so that you can prove how brave and Christian you are!!!


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Re: Why some churches defy the ban on gathering.
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 03:36:46 AM »
GOODSHOT. Please don't take the bait. CHARLIE.  ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Re: Why some churches defy the ban on gathering.
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 04:41:13 AM »
   What bait?    ;) ;D
 
Heard a teaching on the Moravians who chose to work in the leprosariums  , they would make their own coffin and that was their luggage for they  believed it to be a one way trip in and they would fill their coffin when their work was done, such dedication and love to those they didn't even know, much like Christ did for all those who will accept Him and walk with him.

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Re: Why some churches defy the ban on gathering.
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 09:08:47 AM »

To defy or not to defy: For most houses of worship, it’s not even a question to consider, as they shutter their doors and switch to online services to thwart spreading the coronavirus.
But not all have complied.
On Friday The River at Tampa Bay Church in Florida was still planning to hold public church services for its thousands of members on Sunday.
As the COVID-19 virus has become a plague of seemingly biblical proportions around the world, the Tampa church’s founding pastor, Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne, has openly defied the state’s gathering ban on groups of 10 or more people and forced the closing of non-essential operations.
A lengthy legal article on the church’s website asks, “By what authority does the government declare the church non-essential?”
The River Church is not alone.


Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge, La., has also defied the state's gathering ban. Its pastor, the Reverend Tony Spell calls the ban “politically motivated.”
In a phone interview with Fox News, he says his church had been hated long before the gathering ban because it serves the poor and needy with its multi-racial congregation in a community that is 88 percent white.
He also says that his church offers the only hope for many who suffer. “I have seen members healed of HIV and cancer -- diseases [that are] bigger than COVID-19.”
The fundamental right to freedom of religion in the United States is sacrosanct. And there are strict legal guidelines as to when the government can impose its authority. Most importantly, there has to be a compelling state interest.


Dr. Russell Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission for the Southern Baptist Convention says protecting citizens from the COVID-19 pandemic is a clear case. ---- THE VERY TYPE OF MORON that brings about Hitlers and Stalins.



Moore asserts, “Governments are not specifically singling in on churches in a way that they're not with other people. And there's a compelling government interest here, which is public health and making sure that the most vulnerable among us aren't sacrificed. And so I think in that situation, this is perfectly constitutional.”
But The River Church’s legal analyst begs to differ. Attorney KrisAnne Hall writes, “When politicians assign an ‘acceptable’ number of people allowed in a private church, they are reducing our right to Freedom of Religion to a first-come, first-served privilege.”
Brad Dacus, founder of the conservative legal group Pacific Justice Institute says, “this is a new ballgame.”
Dacus says he would never recommend any church violate local laws, but that PJI has vowed to defend and give legal counsel to any church that does.
He says, “it's very possible that there could be a church out there that may not be complying with a mandate but yet also may have a bona fide defense, based on the way that the mandate is being applied to other parties and other entities.”
Spell wholeheartedly agrees. He points out that less than a mile from his church “there’s a Walmart with 200 cars in the parking lot, and nobody blinks an eye.”
While no one in Spell’s church has contracted the virus so far, other congregants at churches and houses of worship in other states have not been so fortunate.


Three members of churches in California and Georgia are dead after contracting COVID-19. It is believed that they caught the virus in their respective houses of worship. And nearly three dozen people connected to the 80 member Greers Ferry First Assembly of God in Arkansas have also tested positive for the new coronavirus including its pastor and his wife. And in Brooklyn, New York the Catholic diocese is reporting that members in several parishes have tested positive for COVID- 19 positive cases. All public masses are canceled there.
The Walmart is open in Baton Rouge near Spell’s church because it has a grocery store inside it which is considered essential. But Spell and Howard-Browne say feeding our souls and our spirits are also essential.
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As has been said but most famously by Churchill, those who give up freedom for safety DESERVE NEITHER.While I do not agree with Good Shot's mysticism , on this I would defy the law and stand with him if I had a choice.