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Old or New Forums?
« on: June 20, 2020, 01:03:04 AM »
How many guys have come back to the original Graybeard Forum because of the changes soon to come on GBO (The newer version)?


I moved across because of the promised changes, just because when the sister forum went over to it, I had a seriously hard time just figuring out how to post there. Guess I just resist change. Never did get along with computers very well, and I'm not here to learn new computer skills, just to enjoy the company of like minded others.


Soooo.....Who moved across, and what are your reasons?
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2020, 05:47:42 AM »
I never fell in love with the new software they changed to after the bought the site from us. I learned to live with it but never liked it as much as this software we use here. I'm not looking forward to another change there but I'll see how it goes when they do it.


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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2020, 06:19:36 AM »
I never fell in love with the new software they changed to after the bought the site from us. I learned to live with it but never liked it as much as this software we use here. I'm not looking forward to another change there but I'll see how it goes when they do it.


Amen, what's used here is more user friendly.

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2020, 07:56:45 AM »
Although I adapt quickly, I am one who loathes change.
I will grumble for awhile but then I actually forget the old and new becomes accepted; THEN when the new is dumped for newer, I bitch because the new old I got used to is gone. :o

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2020, 10:39:00 AM »
It looks to me like changing purely
for the sake of change, just as they've
done at places I've worked at. Except
it's my opinion that things got changed
at work because someone in the office
got a special envelope from someone
selling software.  It was for sure never
changing to make things better for the
company or the employees
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2020, 09:59:35 PM »
I too like it here better but the users that left the old site don't seem to be showing up here.  At least not yet...

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2020, 11:59:45 PM »
I too like it here better but the users that left the old site don't seem to be showing up here.  At least not yet...

Tony




I guess a lot of us are still watching the other site to see what and when things change over. I agree, when the smoke clears we may see more of us back here.
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2020, 06:30:58 AM »
I use the old site more because some of the forums are still in real time, like the Contender classifieds.
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2020, 07:41:16 AM »
I don't know software from underwear. I like this place because its just more quiet and people are more respectful.
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2020, 03:40:17 AM »
I like this forum..but can't figure how to avoid the  [size]  and [/size][size 78%] when ever I post a link.  I have to come back and modify to take the bracketed stuff away.


  If we want this site to prosper, we need more to post thread starters..[/size][/size]
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2020, 03:48:48 AM »
I like this forum..but can't figure how to avoid the  [size]  and [/size][size 78%] when ever I post a link.  I have to come back and modify to take the bracketed stuff away.


  If we want this site to prosper, we need more to post thread starters..[/size]


At least it doesent hit you with last edited and chopped up paragraphs.

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2020, 09:15:35 AM »
I like this forum..but can't figure how to avoid the  [size]  and [/size][size 78%] when ever I post a link.  I have to come back and modify to take the bracketed stuff away.


  If we want this site to prosper, we need more to post thread starters..[/size]


At least it doesent hit you with last edited and chopped up paragraphs.
  Yeah, at least that much !

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2020, 12:16:05 AM »
Golly. I have a lot of questions.
How did this two site business come yo be? Why?
Who owns what?
Why is my post count not related to reality? As far as I know, i have made four posts, counting this one. Under my name the post count says 604....How could that be other than a glitch. I just found this site yesterday.
Are there advantages to this site that are not available on the other? So far, the two seem pretty much the same aside from a few more fora here.
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[size=78%]How many GBOs are there? Which one is this that I am writing in?[/size]

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2020, 12:34:57 AM »
Well Pete, all I can say is it's here to enjoy.



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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2020, 03:02:08 AM »
GBO is a Field of Dreams.  Change is difficult and inevitable. 

"If You Build It He Will Come"The "old site" is under reconstruction (yesterday, today, and maybe tomorrow - the end date is unknown).  In that, the old site is "down" until further notice.  I suspect that traffic here will increase, if only temporarily, for those that can find "here", as well as I am certain that some members will find "here" to be "better" than "there" after their latest software is implemented. 

I believe they said their new software will be more "user friendly" (from a certain perspective) across a greater percentage of current Interweb accessing platforms (tablets, iPhones, tower computers, etc., and browsers too, Windows, Linux, Mac, etc.).  We shall see.  I primarily use a tower PC, monitor, and keypad.  Ten finger typing is still accepted - for now.

I can't say what change(s) will occur on the old site (for the 2nd and perhaps 3rd time for some of us).  I won't know until you know, so we'll learn together. 

"Ease His Pain".  I know I was not entirely happy with the late 2010's modifications of the old site.  After some grumbling, I got used to the changes, figured it out through some headaches, and wrote tutorials.

"Go The Distance".  After these new changes I will continue to use the old site.  I may not be as pragmatic about writing new tutorials - though that, as a Moderator, is "what I do".  I don't think that change is bad, just confounding and confusing.  It gets easier over time. 

Do you remember the days BEFORE the Internet, before iPhones, before email (when you had NO CLUE what that was or how to use it), before Microsoft, before Macintosh, before Word Processing, before Excel (or Lotus 1-2-3) spreadsheets, or before computers took over ALL human interactions?  Necessity IS the Mother of Invention.

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2020, 03:02:24 AM »
I finally figured out how to navigate the new site fairly well Kind of a PIA to a geezer like me and I think it sucks. This site is still fine.

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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2020, 03:38:14 AM »
 What ever happened to, "If it's not broke, don't fix it "?
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2020, 04:58:13 AM »

Golly. I have a lot of questions.

How did this two site business come yo be? Why?

Who owns what?

Why is my post count not related to reality? As far as I know, i have made four posts, counting this one. Under my name the post count says 604....How could that be other than a glitch. I just found this site yesterday.

Are there advantages to this site that are not available on the other? So far, the two seem pretty much the same aside from a few more fora here.

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How many GBOs are there? Which one is this that I am writing in?
Pete

What is with all these bracketed size notes? Where did they come from and why?

Last, first. Frankly I have no clue why all the size and font types are creeping in on you. It doesn't for me. I just type directly into the text block and get none of that.

How did the two site deal come about.

In March of 2014 me and Matt sold the Graybeard Outdoors and Go2GBO domains to an outfit called Tactical Scope. At some point they sold out to Vertical Scope. Just what the relationship between them is I dunno. The other side is now owned by Vertical scope and they do with it and to it what they please.

Matt had a copy of the GBO site as it was the day we sold it. He has fairly recently set this site up from that early 2014 copy of the old GBO site. So all posts you had made on GBO prior to March 1, 2014 are here in this site in addition to whatever you have made here recently.

This site, GBO Reloaded is owned by Matt. It is running the same software we used back when he and I owned GBO which we founded in 1997.

Your post count is reality but as I said includes your posts on GBO prior to March 1, 2014. This site is that old pre March 2014 site RELOADED to the internet with all posts made since Matt set it up.

Advantages? You'll have to decide that for yourself. For me the big advantage is it still uses the old software we used when we owned the site and which I am familiar with. The new software they now use I may or may never become comfortable with.

This site is owned exclusively by Matt. The other is owned by Vertical scope. They did NOT buy the content from us only the two domains we used back then. So Matt has taken the old content and set up this new site using the GBO reloaded domain.

How many GBO sites?

Technically there are 4 I'm aware of. We originally set up the site in 1997 using the domain www.graybeardoutdoors.com. We shortly bought www.greybeardoutdoors.com but Matt messed up and failed to renew the domain so we lost it. I have no idea who know owns it or what the content there is. He then bought www.go2gbo.com to replace the lost domain.

We sold both those domains to tactical republic in March of 2014. Now Matt has set up this the 4th using www.gboreloaded.com so that's the 4 GBO sites on the internet.

Your post which I am responding to is written on the www.gboreloaded.com site which is solely owned and run by Matt. I am helping him run the site as Administrator same as I still do on the site we sold. I have zero ownership interest in this site.

Matt said he has set it up to honor my idea and effort to establish the original GBO site which Vertical scope now owns and runs.


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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2020, 05:02:18 AM »
This site does not have any advertising on it. Matt has stated that he does not plan to add any. He is footing the bill for the entire cost of running this site from his own pocket as I did the original site for years until we started to sell advertising.

He is hoping folks will buy products from the GBO store or donate money from time to time to help cover the costs. But until and unless that happens he is paying the full cost of running the site from his pocket monthly.

I believe his plan is to eventually move it from a paid server to his own servers. He plans to once again offer hosting service for this and other sites just as we were doing at one time back when we owned the original site before we sold it.


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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2020, 10:35:16 AM »
GBO is a Field of Dreams.  Change is difficult and inevitable. 

"If You Build It He Will Come"The "old site" is under reconstruction (yesterday, today, and maybe tomorrow - the end date is unknown).  In that, the old site is "down" until further notice.  I suspect that traffic here will increase, if only temporarily, for those that can find "here", as well as I am certain that some members will find "here" to be "better" than "there" after their latest software is implemented. 

I believe they said their new software will be more "user friendly" (from a certain perspective) across a greater percentage of current Interweb accessing platforms (tablets, iPhones, tower computers, etc., and browsers too, Windows, Linux, Mac, etc.).  We shall see.  I primarily use a tower PC, monitor, and keypad.  Ten finger typing is still accepted - for now.


Do you remember the days BEFORE the Internet, before iPhones, before email (when you had NO CLUE what that was or how to use it), before Microsoft, before Macintosh, before Word Processing, before Excel (or Lotus 1-2-3) spreadsheets, or before computers took over ALL human interactions?  Necessity IS the Mother of Invention.

   








Saying it will be more user friendly simply doesn't make it so. The definition for being user friendly in my mind is a generational thing. Those kids in grade school do things with all those electronic do-dads like computers, i pads, and smart phones that I as a great grandfather don't have enough time left on earth to accomplish.


We old guys find a pencil and paper useful and "user friendly" in the same sense that we are easily able to write in script, then have someone else understand it. If I were to write out instructions to do math with a pad and paper using script instead of printing, 90% of the high school grads would not find it "user friendly"


Maybe this is the way of the future, and "user friendly" for younger generations, but a few good EMP's generated by the sun to knock out their little advances and user friendly could take on a whole different meaning.......I understand, not likely, but in my mind they need to leave some things alone. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »
To me this software is user friendly. What they replaced this software with on the other GBO was never to me user friendly but after all the years since they made that change I learned to use it to read on the site and to do most all the things I needed to do that were admin related.

I still have no clue how I'm gonna do admin functions on their new software. I guess first time I have an admin function to do I'll begin figuring it out.


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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2020, 12:06:08 PM »
Old site will not accept my password and their email thing does not work. I go there every day for the jokes on pot belly. Bring the humor over here and that would solve everything. CHARLIE.  ::)
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2020, 12:36:47 PM »
Old site will not accept my password and their email thing does not work. I go there every day for the jokes on pot belly. Bring the humor over here and that would solve everything. CHARLIE.  ::)


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Re: Old or New Forums?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2020, 02:47:56 PM »
All of a sudden everything is haywire, HP updated my computer now I even have to refigure out how to make my printer work google is the same way they change things for no reason I am on the side if it aint broke don't try and fix it.


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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2020, 04:31:52 AM »
All of a sudden everything is haywire, HP updated my computer now I even have to refigure out how to make my printer work google is the same way they change things for no reason I am on the side if it aint broke don't try and fix it.


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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2020, 11:43:57 AM »
Yup. I try to avoid upgrades to my smart phone, at least until I can figure out how to work it.....my own fault for getting a phone smarter than me!
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