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https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-police-department-cops-non-violent-calls

By Stephanie Pagones | Fox News

St. Petersburg police officers will no longer respond to non-violent 911 calls, such as quality-of-life complaints or mental health concerns, amid nationwide calls for budget cuts and policing changes, the agency announced.

The Florida city’s police department will instead send employees from its newly created Community Assistance Liaison division, which officials described as “a social service agency." They will respond to 911 calls pertaining to a number of issues, including drug overdoses, disorderly intoxications, suicide crises and panhandling, the department said in a Thursday press release.

“Change is coming to St. Pete Police Department,” said Chief of Police Anthony Holloway during a Thursday press conference, referencing the May 25 death of George Floyd in Minneapolis. Floyd, a Black man, died after a White police officer held his knee on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes.


Holloway said the police department spoke with faith and community groups,  protesters and union officials, in the wake of Floyd’s death.


“After all those conversations, we had one common goal. That common goal is very simple: Our citizen is asking for change. The City of St. Petersburg and the police department is ready for that change.”


City officials have, in turn, ordered the reallocation of $3.1 million in federal grant money and $3.8 million in earmarked city funding to the new program, according to the release. The funds initially were intended to pay for the hiring of 25 more police officers for the department.

According to the press release, CAL officers will respond to the following calls:

Intoxicated individuals

Mental health crises

Drug overdose

Disorderly intoxication

Suicide crises

Homeless complaints and panhandling

Neighborhood disputes

Truancy, or disorderly minors

Disorderly juveniles at elementary schools

The program is slated to begin Oct. 1.

Holloway explained that the median age of police officers on the force is 25 and most don’t even have children, “but we’re asked sometimes to help someone raise their kid.”

As for mental health calls, Holloway said, the officers don’t have enough training in the area and are not experts on those types of issues.

Out of the 259,800 911 calls in 2019, the St. Petersburg Police Department responded to an estimated 12,700 calls for help regarding those issues, the department said.

On Thursday, Holloway also said the department is examining its use of force policy and how complaints are handled. It's monitoring calls to determine whether or not to respond at all.

“Believe it or not, we still get some calls about, ‘there’s an African American male sitting in the park, he doesn’t look like us,’” the police chief said during the press conference. “We’re not coming to those calls. If that person, he or she, is not committing a crime, we’re not going to that.”

He detailed additional training for the department, doubling de-escalation and self-defense training from one to two times per year.


The department also requires civilian members to receive “Fair and Impartial Policing” training, which its sworn officers already receive. A civilian member from a local advocacy or faith group will be added to the police department’s hiring board.


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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2020, 12:30:35 AM »
Well I guess Florida is trying to give them what they want? Have they decided NOT to send officers when the social workers get their behinds into problems?


Personally I don't believe that minimizing police intervention will be a very effetive means of containing the problems they want the social workers to handle. There are simply too many chips on too many shoulders, and college educated yuppies seldom seem to have a solid grip on reality in the streets, just the realities as the professors have promised it should be.


One final thought: Would YOU take a DANGEROUS ONLY job, day in and day out, for less money, authority, and respect for putting your life in jeopardy than the persons did before you? It's already happening in Philly and NYC, crime and murder on the upswing because the hands of the police are tied, and the elected officials can't figure out why.
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2020, 03:29:16 AM »
Well, my 21 year career would have been much shorter under present conditions. However, I look forward to this next effort/experiment,  and, believe it could provide some really entertaining "reality TV "
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2020, 07:54:28 AM »
I think every police officer and firefighter in the country should walk out and strike for 6 months. There would be nothing left to come back to. People would be begging them to come back. Especially the liberal pacifists that want them gone that don't have a clue how to protect there own family.
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2020, 01:05:36 AM »
Amen Brother!
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2020, 01:30:31 AM »
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  This may be a blessing in disguise!  If LEOs are not burdened with such stupid.. &^#%..!  Maybe they can concentrate on bad... &^#%. and haul in more rioters, arsonists and idiots who try to block freeways with their usless bodies !


  ..But I defer here, to experienced LEOs, such as Dee !
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2020, 09:58:51 AM »
Would be a blessing n disguise except for two things:
They already have to stand down instead of enforce the law when it's broken
And those social workers will end up needing to be bailed out of the troubles they blunder themselves into  more often than not


LEO's seem to be headed into more than they already have to handle
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2020, 03:42:49 AM »
Shoot first and ask questions later.  Go BACK to shooting fleeing suspects.  Until the street community RESPECTS LEO's without ATTITUDE, don't be surprised when (not if) you get your arse shot.  Riot, tear stuff up, burn, loot, attempt to rewrite history by toppling statues, graffiti, or starting some domestic terrorist social disconnect, and YOU WILL BE SHOT.

SELF-REGULATE those that would ambush and kill police.  Our policemen are NOT targets.  Shoot at, near, act like, point your "pistol fingers" at, threaten, fight, or TAKE ATTITUDE with or against the police, attitude that YOUR MOTHER would beat you arse about, and EXPECT to get arse shot by the police.

LEO's haul them in.  The Legal System puts them back on the street.  It is a revolving door.  Perps have MORE RIGHTS than victims.  Put more in the grave and let the "mean streets" adjust to suit.  If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2020, 04:01:13 AM »
  I don't know what has happened to some folks, but I have always figured that when an arrest takes place, as soon as the subject starts to resist arrest...he's on his own !  Whatever happens to a resistor, is his own fault !


   Just keep in mind, these deaths which the riots are being celebrated over; these riots in protest of perps being killed..


   If they had not decided to resist...they would still be alive today !
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2020, 08:38:58 AM »
   Whatever happens to a resistor, is his own fault !


   Just keep in mind, these deaths which the riots are being celebrated over; these riots in protest of perps being killed..


   If they had not decided to resist...they would still be alive today !


Well now there's something to ponder.
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2020, 10:16:56 AM »
   Whatever happens to a resistor, is his own fault !


   Just keep in mind, these deaths which the riots are being celebrated over; these riots in protest of perps being killed..


   If they had not decided to resist...they would still be alive today !
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What ponder? Anyone with even the slightest amount of common sense should understand it's the truth.

Well now there's something to ponder.
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2020, 02:26:50 PM »
   Whatever happens to a resistor, is his own fault !


   Just keep in mind, these deaths which the riots are being celebrated over; these riots in protest of perps being killed..


   If they had not decided to resist...they would still be alive today !
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What ponder? Anyone with even the slightest amount of common sense should understand it's the truth.

Well now there's something to ponder.


LOL, That one went right over your head didn't it? 8)
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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2020, 03:19:23 PM »
    Democrats want to re-imagine policeing , I imagine there want be any police if  the Dems regain total control .

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Re: Florida police department will not send cops to non-violent calls
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2020, 03:46:47 PM »
Well, I don't think the "no police" will last that long in these liberal cities, if it ever happens at all.
This latest idea of sending unarmed "social workers" to domestic calls, I think personally is a great idea.
I've never had a very high regard for "social workers" as in my 21 year career as a police officer, I never met more than one or two that had any sense.
Most were "idealists" rather than "realists".
So I say, send their dumb asses to the domestic calls, but please film it.
It would no doubt be, one of the most entertaining reality TV shows of all time.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2020, 04:38:59 PM »
Well, I don't think the "no police" will last that long in these liberal cities, if it ever happens at all.
This latest idea of sending unarmed "social workers" to domestic calls, I think personally is a great idea.
I've never had a very high regard for "social workers" as in my 21 year career as a police officer, I never met more than one or two that had any sense.
Most were "idealists" rather than "realists".
So I say, send their dumb asses to the domestic calls, but please film it.
It would no doubt be, one of the most entertaining reality TV shows of all time.
    Passions run high in domestic disputes ,  Probably the most dangerous call a LEO can get .  It takes someone with very good communication skills  for a job like that .  not something Id be very good at . 

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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2020, 06:29:35 AM »
Well, I don't think the "no police" will last that long in these liberal cities, if it ever happens at all.
This latest idea of sending unarmed "social workers" to domestic calls, I think personally is a great idea.
I've never had a very high regard for "social workers" as in my 21 year career as a police officer, I never met more than one or two that had any sense.
Most were "idealists" rather than "realists".
So I say, send their dumb asses to the domestic calls, but please film it.
It would no doubt be, one of the most entertaining reality TV shows of all time.
    Passions run high in domestic disputes ,  Probably the most dangerous call a LEO can get .  It takes someone with very good communication skills  for a job like that .  not something Id be very good at .


  ...Me either, McBammer..  When confronted with some of the purely stupid things which are going on today, I am very inclined to ask the subject, "What in. &*#@%...is wrong with your head?  You're lucky you didn't get your azz wiped out !


  I truly in no way feel responsible for any other adult's stupidity, and refuse to take the blame !
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