Whipping up the anger !

[ironglows]

  Students being encouraged to write complaining and hate essays...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/protest-writing-workshop-is-giving-inner-city-students-an-outlet-to-fight-racial-injustice-bullying/ar-BB16IqWZ?ocid=msedgdhp


  It matters not what the "offense" is or seems to be, by having students concentrate on the negative, and build 'hate castles' in their minds, only produces more hate.


  Do we really need more hate these days ?

'Protest Writing' workshop is giving inner-city students an outlet to fight racial injustice, bullying
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CNN logo'Protest Writing' workshop is giving inner-city students an outlet to fight racial injustice, bullying
On a recent Friday afternoon, a handful of high school students in Philadelphia met over video chat from their respective homes to dissect the lyrics of songs by jazz musician Billie Holiday and rapper J. Cole.

a person posing for the camera: Mighty Writers is a nonprofit program that's providing a free protest writing class to students in the Philadelphia area.© Courtesy Zion Perry Mighty Writers is a nonprofit program that's providing a free protest writing class to students in the Philadelphia area.
The artists, from two completely different eras, have something in common: their songs of protest. For Holiday, it was the 1939 song "Strange Fruit" that stunned listeners with its horrifying depiction of black lynchings. For J. Cole, it was his 2020 single "Snow on Tha Bluff," which he released in response to police brutality and ongoing protests over racism in the wake of George Floyd's death.

This may not seem like a typical class curriculum -- and that's the point. The workshop is called "Protest Writing," and it's hosted by non-profit Mighty Writers, which provides reading and writing classes to low income and marginalized students in the Philadelphia area for free. The goal is have students meet and discuss pieces of protest inspired by the civil unrest they are seeing in their own communities in recent months.

"With the explosion of the Black Lives Matter movement and the unfortunate murder of George Floyd, that just added to the conversation," workshop instructor, Bartley Jeannoute told CNN. "I just felt like this would be the best avenue to leverage my skills as a teacher and get in touch with what kids are saying and how they're feeling."

Jeannoute, a private school teacher at Abington Friends School in Jenkintown, Pennsylvania, said a colleague encouraged him to reach out to Mighty Writers with his protest writing workshop proposal.

He said he felt it was important to teach a class where he could lay down some groundwork and arm his students with context from history so that they can better understand the movements happening right now.

"There's so much that gets left out of the curriculum for these kids," he said. "The conversations that these kids are having now, while they're at the forefront, they've been going on for a long time."

Creating a space to creatively channel ideas
A group of six students began meeting on July 6, with the workshop's end date set for Friday, July 17.

During the afternoon hour-long class, students read the historical work of W.E.B. Du Bois and Ida B. Wells and contemporary writers like Ta-Nehisi Coates and Nikole Hannah-Jones. They also analyze lyrics from artists, like Holiday and J. Cole, as well as Kendrick Lamar and Lauryn Hill.

The workshop culminates with a final writing assignment in the form of a poem, essay or spoken word, Jeannoute said.

"After surveying the history for Black oppression and protest writing, we are now examining current examples of protest writing in journalism," he said. "We facilitated a very engaging conversation about how oppression manifests in almost every aspect of life as POC in America and in underfunded schools."

Over the weekend, students will take time to work on their own narratives, drawing inspiration from the week's conversations.

Jeannoute said he's assigned two writing prompts: In what ways has Covid-19 directly impacted your life and learning? And/or speak about a specific event or instance of oppression. How can you use your voice to bring about change?

"We want to highlight the student experience and response but we are asking them to use Dr. Stephen Wilbers' 'Five Elements of Effective Writing,' he said. "We'll give them the space to tell their story but it needs to be clear and structured."

With the events of this summer being the kind that make history, Jeannoute said he wanted to make sure students had a space to cope with what's going on in the world and discuss and creatively channel ideas.

Protesting through a social media platform
Zion Perry, 16, a rising junior and workshop participant, told CNN she loves being able to log on from home and learn how to strengthen her writing and voice.

"I just want this workshop to help me become the powerhouse that I want to be," she told CNN.

Perry's mom signed her up for the class. Having taken another class with Mighty Writers, she Perry she was excited at the thought of tying her ongoing social justice initiative with lessons from the workshop.

Perry used to travel over 30 minutes from her Philadelphia home by public transport to get to her private school, Academy of the New Church in Bryn Athyn, Pennsylvania.

But since the pandemic forced her to stay at home and transition to an online-only format, she said it also gave her time to reflect on the education she was receiving and the racial inequality she was facing.

"It brought me to tears when I thought about how I was treated at my school," Perry said. "There were many teachers at that school that just didn't believe in Black students being smart kids."

Perry said she felt like teachers at Academy of the New Church would openly praise White students but wouldn't speak highly of any of her Black peers.

The workshop became a more formal extension of a project Perry was already doing on her own: Using Instagram as a form of protest to show what it is like to be "Black at" her private high school.

"I wanted to create this platform for Black women and men who don't feel like they're strong enough to stand up for themselves," she said. "I used to be that student that would never speak up for a racial injustice so people could treat me any type of way."

As protests over the deaths of Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor and Rayshard Brooks have filled US cities, Black students and alumni of some of the country's most prestigious private high schools have taken to social media to share their experiences of being Black at majority White elite private schools.

When asked about Perry's account, the school told CNN they are listening to stories from students past and present in an effort to learn.

"We support all our students, alumni, and families in courageously speaking out about the hurt they experienced while attending our schools and we thank them for sharing input on how to make our schools better," an ANC spokesperson said.

"We are using their input and their voices together with other voices and professionals to help in formulating and implementing a plan to move forward with greater love and respect."

An ongoing fight for justice
Jeannoute said he's humbled to have been able to teach a class of this nature. In his experience, he said private schools provide "a bit more latitude" for kids to speak up about their ideas, whereas in public schools, some of those "kids' voices get lost in the shuffle."

"This is an opportunity for me to give back to one of my principles of teaching, which is to give a voice to those who have been overlooked," he said.

Perry said she and her siblings will not be going back to Academy of the New Church because of the racial inequality she said she has faced. Her family has moved to the Willow Grove area where she said she plans on attending a new school in the fall.

And though she's changing schools, Perry said she will continue her fight against racial injustice -- because she doesn't want others to fight as hard as she has had to.

[darkgael]

   Do we really need more hate these days ?

No, we do not.
“Whipping up the anger”
Is not that exactly what most of the threads posted here do? Under the guise of keeping others “ informed” or venting the spleen, many of the recent (and past) posts sow distrust and anger.

.“  He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.“

Another way of saying that you become what you think about the most.

[Land_Owner]

We are what we eat - they say.  Inhaling a daily snoot-full of Conservative off-gassing is good for the Right Thinking soul.  At least we THINK about a better life and DISCUSS its ramifications rather than THROW OURSELVES into the fire of Domestic Terrorism.


I don't go violently protesting, looting, burning, and killing folks (particularly police) when I don't get my Conservative way.  I and my ancestry didn't stay home and suck the sweat off of the balls of those that work everyday to Make America Great and then complain about how difficult life is. 


I had two loving and working parents.  I earned an education.  I pay taxes. I Vote.


I don't advocate eliminating the "nuclear family" or having everyone's offspring taken and raised by the Liberal Hivemind - as some Feminazi's have suggested.  There's a whole lot of what Conservatives do daily that differentiates us from THEM that isn't violent, hate, racist, or gimmedat in its motivation.

[ironglows]

  Great post Land_Owner, nor am I burning out hard working business people.  Nor  assaulting others for their political beliefs!
 I don't consider conservative posts as 'whipping up anger'.  I consider such as alerting other, thinking people... to the latest ignorance of the left.
  Neither I or other conservatives are trying to turn America upon it's head.  Neither I nor Land_Owner are calling for the defunding of our police agencies, nor are we demanding "reparations" !


Conservatives want to retain the values of our constitution, while the leftists are trying the hardest to destroy it !


  Today's left are a development of manipulators, taking advantage of ignorant, destructive, and primitive individuals.  How do we know this? 
   Simple..those gullible primitives don't mind that the 'movers' of the global outrage, create modern "tribes" and place the useful idiots, into their pre-conceived slots !


 

[darkgael]

I do understand what you are both saying.....and you are right. What I take issue with is the blanket condemnation of anyone who is “left” as you say. What is “left” anyway? According to what scale is a person “left” or “liberal”?  Both of you have proven time and time again that you are thoughtful, informed men. There are, doubtless, men who are more conservative than either of you, more radical in their belief and behavior. You are “left” of them. Does that mean that you are “left”?
When you describe leftists as “violently protesting, burning, looting and killing folks”, as a “development of manipulators, etc.”, do you actually mean anyone “left” of your world view?

[ironglows]

I do understand what you are both saying.....and you are right. What I take issue with is the blanket condemnation of anyone who is “left” as you say. What is “left” anyway? According to what scale is a person “left” or “liberal”?  Both of you have proven time and time again that you are thoughtful, informed men. There are, doubtless, men who are more conservative than either of you, more radical in their belief and behavior. You are “left” of them. Does that mean that you are “left”?
When you describe leftists as “violently protesting, burning, looting and killing folks”, as a “development of manipulators, etc.”, do you actually mean anyone “left” of your world view?

    I view the "left" as ranging from, socialists all the way to hard line revolutionary communists!


  I see liberals as ranging from classic liberals, whom I can respect (e.g, Alan Dershowitz), to liberals who are ignorant of history, and incoherent screamers.

[Sandhillbilly]

I do understand what you are both saying.....and you are right. What I take issue with is the blanket condemnation of anyone who is “left” as you say. What is “left” anyway? According to what scale is a person “left” or “liberal”?  Both of you have proven time and time again that you are thoughtful, informed men. There are, doubtless, men who are more conservative than either of you, more radical in their belief and behavior. You are “left” of them. Does that mean that you are “left”?
When you describe leftists as “violently protesting, burning, looting and killing folks”, as a “development of manipulators, etc.”, do you actually mean anyone “left” of your world view?

Another way to  view this pete,, right of center believe the constitution is a dead document. Meaning it is what it is, says what it says, and means what it means. Left if center believe it is a living document. Meaning it can be bent, twisted, and changed with the times.

[darkgael]

Sandhillbilly: i really do not like the description of our Constitution as a “dead” document. It is alive in the spirit and life of anyone who believes in its wisdom. It has given structure to our past. It informs our present and gives promise to the future. Dead things decay; they rot. The US Consitution is as green and alive today as ever, despite efforts to uproot it.
Pete

[Sandhillbilly]

Sandhillbilly: i really do not like the description of our Constitution as a “dead” document. It is alive in the spirit and life of anyone who believes in its wisdom. It has given structure to our past. It informs our present and gives promise to the future. Dead things decay; they rot. The US Consitution is as green and alive today as ever, despite efforts to uproot it.
Pete

I agree with the spirit of what you said but it seems you are kinda taking what I said out of context

[Dee]

I don't view The Constitution as dead, or living, red, blue or green.


I view it as "the rules, and regulations of life in the United States" laid out in black and white, with very little gray area.
Abide by, accept it, believe it, or get your ass outta our country.

[Ranger99]

Indelibly irrefutably the law of the land

[Land_Owner]

Pete, speaking for myself, I view the Left as:
Democrats
life long
vote Democrat because their parents did
bleeding hearts
always the victims
anti-gun
afraid
blaming others
openly racist
any Democratic candidate will do
the same old tired "Do It For The Children" platform
believes what the Media tells them
pay no attention to the Man behind the curtain
apathetic and just don't care
spoon fed people
generational welfare recipients
a Laundry List of stereo typical attributes.


The meme "if you're not a Democrat when you're 20, you're heartless.  If you're not a Republican when you're 40, you're brainless" is about right as young uninformed minds are more easily filled with carp and adult reality is learned through work and hard knocks. 

[ironglows]

A concise and accurate (IMO) explanation.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlIjMJBSnRE


.

[darkgael]

FYI...

[darkgael]

FYI...the original statement....same sentiment as above:” He who is not a républicain at twenty compels one to doubt the generosity of his heart; but he who, after thirty, persists, compels one to doubt the soundness of his mind.” Anselme Polycarpe Batbie (19th century academic jurist). :

[Argent 88]

FYI...the original statement....same sentiment as above:” He who is not a républicain at twenty compels one to doubt the generosity of his heart; but he who, after thirty, persists, compels one to doubt the soundness of his mind.” Anselme Polycarpe Batbie (19th century academic jurist). :

Maybe a bit of reverse aging. Born old and grow younger over the years still retaining all that we had learned. 
I wish lol.

[Sandhillbilly]

I don't view The Constitution as dead, or living, red, blue or green.


I view it as "the rules, and regulations of life in the United States" laid out in black and white, with very little gray area.
Abide by, accept it, believe it, or get your ass outta our country.

I agree 100% Dee, but someone left of center could say the same thing, and still argue that the constitution should be flexible in order to conform with the times. Two prime examples of this are the second amendment, oh yes the founders meant every man should be allowed to be armed but they ne er foresaw high capacity semiautomatic weapons and if they had they would have exempted then as they are so dangerous!!!! The other argument the left uses to water down the constitution  is the idea that so called hate speech is not covered under the first amendment. I argue that what the left defines as hate speech is exactly why we have freedom of speech. It is meant to protect it is meant to protect unpopular posittions.

[ironglows]

The constitution is neither living, nor dead..but it is fixed, fixed and immovable !


  As with the Bible.."It is written!"  Still, there are some who do not like what is written in it, and try to bend it to fit their peculiarities.


   ..But it is our job to conform our lives to the Bible..and not the reverse !  ..Same goes for the US constitution !

[Sandhillbilly]

The constitution is neither living, nor dead..but it is fixed, fixed and immovable !


  As with the Bible.."It is written!"  Still, there are some who do not like what is written in it, and try to bend it to fit their peculiarities.


   ..But it is our job to conform our lives to the Bible..and not the reverse !  ..Same goes for the US constitution !

Very well said ironglow

[darkgael]

“  the idea that so called hate speech is not covered under the first amendment. I argue that what the left defines as hate speech is exactly why we have freedom of speech. It is meant to protect it is meant to protect unpopular ”

How does slander fit in to that? Is it ok?

[Sandhillbilly]

“  the idea that so called hate speech is not covered under the first amendment. I argue that what the left defines as hate speech is exactly why we have freedom of speech. It is meant to protect it is meant to protect unpopular ”

How does slander fit in to that? Is it ok?

Does slander, libel, or defamation of character or can it cause damage 9f any sort to the person it was aimed at? 8f so then there is a crime there. If the slander or libel causes the target to lose money or income then there are damages so yes there is a crime there.

[darkgael]

I don't consider conservative posts as 'whipping up anger'.  I consider such as alerting other, thinking people... to the latest ignorance of the left

Your assumption there is that other thinking people do not already know what you are “alerting” them to. You become the news source and unless you are very careful, your reportage contains more than just the news. Anytime a post contains an unqualified generalization about a group of people, anytime sarcasm is used, anytime a name is twisted (democrats/demonrats is one), more is going on than merely “alerting” others to the news. When the mass media does this, we are all over them....when it happens here....criticism is rare.What we believe as a group...how we live...how we earned a living, how we were raised, et cetera....all of which have shown up in posts in this thread....should have nothing to do with reporting the news. When our indignation, our anger, creeps into our posts, some other person reads it and identifies with that and is angered by it and shares that and yet another person reads and shares......Don’t tell me that anger is not whipped up.
The original question was “Do we really need more hate these days?”My response was “No, we do not.”I’ll stick with that.Pete

[Dee]

I don't consider conservative posts as 'whipping up anger'.  I consider such as alerting other, thinking people... to the latest ignorance of the left

Your assumption there is that other thinking people do not already know what you are “alerting” them to. You become the news source and unless you are very careful, your reportage contains more than just the news. Anytime a post contains an unqualified generalization about a group of people, anytime sarcasm is used, anytime a name is twisted (democrats/demonrats is one), more is going on than merely “alerting” others to the news. When the mass media does this, we are all over them....when it happens here....criticism is rare.What we believe as a group...how we live...how we earned a living, how we were raised, et cetera....all of which have shown up in posts in this thread....should have nothing to do with reporting the news. When our indignation, our anger, creeps into our posts, some other person reads it and identifies with that and is angered by it and shares that and yet another person reads and shares......Don’t tell me that anger is not whipped up.
The original question was “Do we really need more hate these days?”My response was “No, we do not.”I’ll stick with that.Pete

This is a "forum" for the sharing of information,  VIEWS, and OPINIONS, not a news source.
I would say anyone too stupid to recognize that fact, probably believes that Mickey Mouse is real.


And I'm gonna stick with that.

[ironglows]

  True...this is an opinion forum, few stick to just the 5 Ws of journalism.

[darkgael]

“ I would say anyone too stupid to recognize that fact, probably believes that Mickey Mouse is real.”

[darkgael]

Oops. “ I would say anyone too stupid to recognize that fact, probably believes that Mickey Mouse is real.” No need to get nasty.
In any case, when we have extensive links to news articles, when the stated purpose of a post is to “alert” others to events, then it is reporting the news. If you do not see that, you have no business calling other people stupid.
Opinion ...no one states an “opinion”; they state what they see as fact. Opinion is what other people call your facts when they think you are wrong and are being polite. 
Pete

[Dee]

Oops. “ I would say anyone too stupid to recognize that fact, probably believes that Mickey Mouse is real.” No need to get nasty.
In any case, when we have extensive links to news articles, when the stated purpose of a post is to “alert” others to events, then it is reporting the news. If you do not see that, you have no business calling other people stupid.
Opinion ...no one states an “opinion”; they state what they see as fact. Opinion is what other people call your facts when they think you are wrong and are being polite. 
Pete

Well let conclude by saying that much of what you see here in the way of opinion is far from fact.
Example, is your opinion of my opinion is fact to as far as your concerned. If my opinion shakes out not to be fact, I'll concede. Some here won't. Will you?

[darkgael]

“Will you?”
Of course. I have been wrong about things on this forum before, admitted it and apologized for my error. More than once or twice.
When you write an idea on this forum, even if you call it an opinion, do you believe that you could be wrong but write it anyway?
Pete

[Dee]

Well, I personally wont say it if I don't think it to be true.

[ironglows]

  Individuals here are only voicing what they see as problems, and not the emotions of others. 


  When people utilize taxpayer paid auspices to provoke anger I can see where some could consider that as 'whipping up" anger. Not only are they using funds furnished by some who disagree with them, they are toying with young, developing minds, where perhaps a spirit of fairness and full disclosure is expected.


  As per the OP, these are young minds, being taught resentment !


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