Author Topic: Warning: do not get the vaccine. (Read 5542 times)

Argent 88 · « **on:** July 28, 2020, 05:53:44 AM »

Some religious groups are protesting it saying it is the mark of the beast. God made you what you are, this changes you into something else that he didn't intended you be.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2020, 08:33:28 AM »

Do you want your DNA altered only to satisfy a socialist agenda? So much for reeducation camps.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2020, 09:41:31 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 28, 2020, 09:24:07 AM

Yep, to produce transhuman zombie slaves....TM7

I know you, your only joking around

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2020, 10:43:58 AM »

Uh no I think he is being serious. He and Matt both are big time against all vaccines.

Sandhillbilly · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2020, 10:44:02 AM »

NO HE'S NOT!!!!

darkgael · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2020, 10:47:35 AM »

Transhuman zombie slaves?..My goodness. How long did it take to come up with that?

The claim shows a complete lack of understanding as to how vaccines work.
Pete

Land_Owner · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2020, 10:44:39 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 28, 2020, 12:03:34 PM

...communists [and] cadres of vaxxed techocratic fascists

So, just another target group of "lead deficient" Zombies then...

I'm not getting Covid tested either as I don't intend to voluntarily add my DNA to the Federal collective of that specific information. Who's to say that isn't happening?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2020, 12:00:00 AM »

there coming to get you Barbara

could make some serious money here with a roll of Reynolds wrap.

The Old Man · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2020, 12:46:30 AM »

Scary stuff anyway you look at it. Alter DNA? Well, let's add this to the mix. One post indicated a possible side effect of sterility, which will lead to a population reduction if wide spread enough. Who's to say this China Flu wasn't designed to reduce the Communist China population, then the rest of the world!

Well it's failing, so the DNA altering vaccine is bio engineered to do it after the fact. We'll kknow for sure if they pass a law MANDATING it.

We really just have little choice but to wait and see....

Dee · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2020, 02:29:02 AM »

Wait and see is a good way of evaluating the vaccine.
I won't say I'll never take the shot, but I'm leary of anything whipped up in this short of time.
I'm gonna sit in tha bleachers for a while on this one.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 29, 2020, 04:31:46 AM »

It isn't wise to start playing around with human DNA. It's like that cloning scare a few years back.
We could end up getting something like another Ted Kennedy. Or a Pelosi Ginsburg mix.
And if they ever really figure this out, you know they are going to try something against the laws
of nature.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2020, 05:00:16 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on July 29, 2020, 12:00:00 AM

there coming to get you Barbara could make some serious money here with a roll of Reynolds wrap.

I've got my tin foil hat ready lol.

oldandslow · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2020, 06:40:29 AM »

I've been tested. It was a requirement for me to have surgery earlier this year. As to the vaccine, if there ever is one, I can remember what happened with the original flu vaccine and I will wait till the "bugs" are worked out with this one. Ya'll please take the vaccine as guinea pigs.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2020, 07:52:43 AM »

Quote from: oldandslow on July 29, 2020, 06:40:29 AM

I've been tested. It was a requirement for me to have surgery earlier this year. As to the vaccine, if there ever is one.' I can remember what happened with the original flu vaccine and I will wait till the "bugs" are worked out with this one. Ya'll please take the vavvine as guines pigs.

Not! Heck for all I know it would make me have a strange desire to howl at the moon and pee on fire hydrants.

geezerbiker · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2020, 08:30:31 PM »

Quote from: Argent 88 on July 29, 2020, 07:52:43 AM

Not! Heck for all I know it would make me have a strange desire to howl at the moon and pee on fire hydrants.

I do that already...

Tony

The Old Man · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2020, 12:00:01 AM »

Night Of The livivg Dead revisited!

If the "harmless" flu shot caused me to relapse with the superbug the hospital gave me, I'm with Oldandslo on the wait and see.

darkgael · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2020, 02:53:51 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 28, 2020, 11:46:55 AM

Quote from: darkgael on July 28, 2020, 10:47:35 AM
Transhuman zombie slaves?..My goodness. How long did it take to come up with that?

The claim shows a complete lack of understanding as to how vaccines work.
Pete
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Pete....I think you're in a scientific area you know very little about except for the usual technocracy propaganda. Fact is there has never been a messenger RNA vax ever released, safdty tested or proven efficacious. Unlike conventional vax wherein attentuated pathogen antigen, or parts thereof, produce antibodies. Messenger RNA vax instead literally hacks DNA to directly produce antibody or antibody like bodies. Since DNA is most accurately described as an information hardrive accumulated by human experience in the form of viruses. Yes, DNA is a program comprised or composed by viruses, or viri more correctly.

Messenger RNA hacks in human DNA define transhumanism. Any reprogramming is possible from sterility to dimwittedness behind oxygen depleted mask wearers. Gates has already been charged with programming these two hacks in vaxxes he and the WHO foisted on several countries.

Besides Coronavirus vaccines already exist_ _ just ask any veternarian who has vaxxed animals over the last 20 or so years for Coronavirus varients.
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.TM7

“ Messenger RNA hacks in human DNA“
Evidently that is not so:

Quote

DNA VACCINES
DNA vaccine work began thirty years ago, but as yet there are no licensed DNA vaccines and most remain in Phase 1 testing.
(Figure 5)
The key challenge associated with DNA vaccines is that they must penetrate the cell nucleus (crossing two membranes; the cytoplasm and the nucleus). The DNA must then be transcribed in the nucleus into mRNA before moving to the cytoplasm to stimulate antigen production. This core complex pathway often requires both larger doses and special, often painful delivery devices using electric shocks or gold microspheres into person’s skin to deliver the DNA vaccine. Once inside the nucleus, DNA vaccines have a risk of permanently changing a person’s DNA.
mRNA VACCINES
There are now six prophylactic mRNA vaccines in clinical trials, four of which are being conducted by Moderna Therapeutics. These vaccines combine the advantages of DNA vaccines (natural antigen expression and production that is faster and standardized) while addressing many of the disadvantages. Unlike DNA vaccines, mRNA vaccines do not need to enter the nucleus, nor do they risk being integrated into our DNA, and they are directly translated into protein antigens. As a result, mRNA vaccines require only 1/1000 the dose of DNA vaccines and do not need special delivery devices. (Figure 6)
The first-ever published data demonstrating a prophylactic mRNA vaccine’s ability to elicit robust immunity in humans was published in Molecular Therapy in April 2017. (Bahl et al., 2017)2 As with all new vaccines, time is needed to establish the level and duration of immunogenicity and the safety profile of mRNA vaccines in larger, more diverse populations. However, the innovation of mRNA vaccines offers the opportunity to improve upon DNA vaccines. These vaccines work seamlessly with the body to mimic the natural sequence of exposure and protection, without the dangers of a real infection. The precision and standardization of the antigen design and delivery offer public health and com- mercial advantages in terms of the speed and cost of discovery, the speed of development, the probability of success for many targets and the speed, cost and adaptability of production. mRNA offers us a new paradigm in vaccinations’ hundred-year history.
2Bahl et al., Preclinical and Clinical Demonstration of Immunogenicity by mRNA Vaccines against H10N8 and H7N9 Influenza Viruses, Molecular Therapy (2017), http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ymthe.2017.03.035

Note: “mRNA vaccines do not need to enter the nucleus, nor do they risk being integrated into our DNA”

More:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-019-0243-3

Dee · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2020, 07:47:57 AM »

I hate sights that are posted here and I end up having to try and erase cookies from those sights.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2020, 08:12:07 AM »

Quote from: Dee on July 30, 2020, 07:47:57 AM

I hate sights that are posted here and I end up having to try and erase cookies from those sights.

Then block and not accept cookies. Its in your settings.

darkgael · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2020, 12:32:16 AM »

“ Covid is the great Bolshevik flu just like Spanish flu was 100 years sgo.”

Spanish flu.....first known case was in Kansas (3/11/1918)
The Bolshevik Revolution was in October of 1917.
About five months between the two. Not likely a connection. Not likely for Covid either.
If you know that they are related, you might share the source of your info.

darkgael · « **Reply #20 on:** August 03, 2020, 12:28:02 AM »

TM7: Thank you for that. Very informative.
From the way I read the sentence that I quoted, I thought that you were saying that the Spanish Flu was caused by the Bolsheviks and that the present nCovid pandemic was likewise caused by “bolsheviks”

Pete

Sandhillbilly · « **Reply #21 on:** August 03, 2020, 04:12:59 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on August 03, 2020, 03:31:19 AM

Pete.....well, both the Spainish Flu and Covid pandemonium were and trigger points for a paradigm shift; sovietizing Russia and America (in Hunger Games fashion) thru fear and culture cancelation. Covid is the perfect spearhead. Btw, Dr. Judy Mikovits has estimated 50 million will be killed by the new vac(s).....TM7

Yes, here is your eugenics in full bloom

The Old Man · « **Reply #22 on:** August 03, 2020, 12:26:48 PM »

As TM7 just stated, the new DNA altering vaccine will do much worse than making zombies or transhumans! It will turn honest hardworking, caring people into DEMOCRAT/SOCIALISTS!!!!!!! AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!NNNOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT HORROR!!!!!!!!

darkgael · « **Reply #23 on:** August 04, 2020, 01:06:19 AM »

“The new DNA altering vaccine”.....the vaccines under current research do not alter cellular DNA.

Even if the vaccines were designed to alter DNA.....this is not something that can be whipped up quickly. Correct gene pairs have to be located, and altered, the alterations tested....does not happen in the span of time currently considered.

“Dr. Judy Mikovits has estimated....”
I am actually not surprised that you refer to Judy Mikovits since her line of discredited malarkey is what you want to hear.
The woman has been and continues to be discredited. She gets things wrong. Example: wearing a mask reinfects the wearer. Think about that for just a moment......if a virus comes out in a breath and is inhaled, nothing has changed....you are not any more infected than before, if at all. Example: masks make us inhale carbon dioxide which is toxic and will kill us. That may be true for a plastic bag but not for a cloth or filter paper mask. Masks are permeable to gas. If you can breathe in, you can breathe out. Besides, there is more residual oxygen in exhaled air than there is CO2.
Nothing that she says can be taken at face value.

darkgael · « **Reply #24 on:** August 04, 2020, 11:40:42 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on August 04, 2020, 08:07:06 PM

Mask collect and concentrate exhaled microbial organisms including pathogens. (Not true. Myth)
In a short time you're re-inhaling a potpourri of organisms in higher concentrations which can make you sick. (Not true. Myth)Tests show that oxygen levels behind a mask drop to around 18% in a short time, low enough to catalyze respiratory issues and infections. (Normal air is 21-23% oxygen) (not accurate. The % part is true but the rest is bogus. Common cloth masks work because they disrupt the flow of exhaled air and droplets that are contained in the exhaled air. They are not tight enough or
fine enough to do much else.) MRNA vaccines have always failed to date (just which tests are you referring to. Writing “always” implies that there have been many such tests. See this article
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243.)as they try to trick or induce the immune system to produce antibodies directly. What could go wrong? Only a fool would trust such boohoo science. Judy Mikovits has been vindicated of all smear charges. She is heroically bringing to light the crimes of Fausti et al....TM7 e

Felony charges of theft of materials dropped. That does not mean that she was cleared. The rest of her work, including her fraudulent research remains discredited.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2020, 07:07:18 AM »

So now we're into fart science lol. Starting with the cows.

darkgael · « **Reply #26 on:** August 05, 2020, 11:27:03 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on August 05, 2020, 06:12:46 AM

Pete....you can try to negate logic and real science all you want. You can smear freedom fighters like Dr.Mikovits, and promote boohoo marxo-technocrat fear science. But the fact remains mask are about as effective stopping virus as pants are effective stopping a fart....TM7

That is classic. Logic? You have not applied logic in any post on this subject . You have not referred to any real science in any of your attacks on masks or vaccines.
Mikovits is a proven fraud given to making baseless claims. She has become the darling of conspiracy theorists for unexplainable reasons and you call her a freedom fighter.
Masks...everything you have written about masks is wrong. Concentrating pathogens, inhaling CO2 at toxic levels...bunk.
“The fact remains that...”
No... the fact that you say that does not make it true. Every indication is that when people get together in groups and do not wear masks, infection rates go up. When “social distance“ is observed and masks worn, infection rates go down.
The marvelous thing about conspiracy theory is that you get to say whatever you want with no proof. Anyone who takes issue with what you say is obviously part of the conspiracy and therefore not worth listening to.
Pete

PS: “[size=78%] boohoo marxo-technocrat fear science.” Cute.[/size]

Ronv69 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2020, 02:56:41 PM »

BS. I wear a mask and I WILL get the vaccine.

darkgael · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2020, 03:22:54 PM »

TM7: WOW. That was a lot of work. Your effort is much appreciated. The upshot seems to be that you are saying that no one needs to wear a mask and that everything will be Ok if we do not. Is that correct?

“So Pete, what I'd like to know is if you were always a mask policeman and official marxo-technocracy spokesman? Or did you go on mask-vax-official narrative patrol after Fauci and gang flip flopped on mask policies? “
How about none of the above.
You really like that marxo-technocracy expression, don’t you?
Question: Did you read through all of that source material? It will take me a while.
Meanwhile, I will wear a mask.
Principally, what bothers me is the attitude that everyone other than a few enlightened souls like yourself is stupid and easily duped. Everyone else is wrong.
Pete

darkgael · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:52:31 PM »

Yes, there are people who have the virus and who are symptom free. Is that good?
It is for them. For people around them, not so much. While they may have no symptoms, they still do have the virus and can spread it. They may not feel sick but they are sick.
Pete
PS: You are highly critical of the mask mandates. You have criticized social distancing and vaccine research. Do you have any positives to share? Has your own research/reading into this situation (the pandemic) led to/suggested any positive strategies for slowing the spread of CV19?