The forest fires in California.

[ironglows]

  It seems like we get full information concerning California's forest fires, but little info concerning the other current fires.
   A young man from our church studied at Paul Smith's, a forestry college in the Adirondacks.  Upon graduation, Nick was hired by the National Fire service, and posted to Idaho.  So he and his wife, Miranda, whom I taught in teen Bible class, moved to Idaho.
 
  Last week they evacuated, and their house burned to the ground, along with all their belongings. They and their 2 children are basically homeless today.  So, why do we, at least here in the east, hear a great deal of the California fires, but next to nothing of the others?

  https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/ipnf/fire/?cid=stelprdb5355158

[orerancher]

Because to the Liberal Media, there is just Empty Space between NY and LA....Most Couldn't Find Idaho on a US Map....
They just Don't Care 

[ironglows]

Yeah...I guess to the media, if it doesn't happen in California, Portland or Seattle..it doesn't happen..

  BTW:  I wonder when the lefty Seattle residents will change the name of their city?  After all the city is named after an Indian chief!
  https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/chief-seattle-dies-near-the-city-named-for-him#:~:text=Born%20sometime%20around%201790%2C%20Seattle,gain%20influence%20in%20both%20tribes.

  Oh yes; and have those same leftists made any move yet, to give the land back to the Indian tribes that were dislocated..and had their land seized from them.

  ...Any word on that ?

[orerancher]

Yeah...I guess to the media, if it doesn't happen in California, Portland or Seattle..it doesn't happen..

We have People in this County being Burned out of Their Homes Today...and the Portland Media is not sayin much about It...

[Bob Riebe]

WGN is now running an evening new,  CNN Newsourc, minus the CNN headline and they were talked about there.

It is advertised on WGN as non-politically based news, I checked what it was online and watched it.
It is NOT like CNN but I am still deciding how biased it is, or is not.

[Ranger99]

Tried to watch some "news " and of
course they had the the reporter standing
with the burning something-or-other
in the background,  then they had a
press conference with someone
(governor?) who was ranting about how
if the fires weren't absolute irrevocable
proof of climate change, what was?
Well.   .  .  I've been seeing western
wildfires since I was old enough to
watch television.  What's changed in
the last 50 years besides massive
population growth?
buncha numb nutz

[nw_hunter]

I live near Roseburg Or, and we have been on level one warning for several days now. One of the major fires is approx. 3 miles from my home as we speak.My Son lives in Estacada Or, and they have been evacuated.Not sure if he will have his home to go home too.This whole dam state is on fire. With my COPD, all I can do is hunker down, and stay indoors. The smoke is so thick, it's like sundown at high noon.And here I was worried about the riots and Covid...lol!

[Dee]

Well, this whole thing I hear could be prevented for the most part with controlled burning. Which California won't allow.

[nw_hunter]

Different thing all together here in Oregon. These are not brush fires. These are forests on fire.This time they burned to the west. Usually the winds are out of the west. We had some eastern winds in the northern part of the state at 50 mph gusts.A little less here in the southern part..
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/firemap.aspx

[ironglows]

  It is suspected that some of the more deranged "protesters" are starting some of the forest fires.  They started fires in the cities, why woud they not do the same elsewhere?

   https://abc7.com/wildfire-oregon-fire-in-arson/6420067/

Of course, left coast "greenie" politics may be partly to blame  for the fires;

  https://anewscafe.com/2020/09/13/redding/proper-forest-management-can-prevent-catastrophic-forest-fires/                                                     

[Dee]

Different thing all together here in Oregon. These are not brush fires. These are forests on fire.This time they burned to the west. Usually the winds are out of the west. We had some eastern winds in the northern part of the state at 50 mph gusts.A little less here in the southern part..
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/firemap.aspx

Oregon is a beautiful state. Their politics not so much.

So the fires are in the west, with the winds out of the west. Not good.

[Argent 88]

Different thing all together here in Oregon. These are not brush fires. These are forests on fire.This time they burned to the west. Usually the winds are out of the west. We had some eastern winds in the northern part of the state at 50 mph gusts.A little less here in the southern part..
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/firemap.aspx

Oregon is a beautiful state. Their politics not so much.

So the fires are in the west, with the winds out of the west. Not good.

Causeing the fires to sweep inland.

[orerancher]

Different thing all together here in Oregon. These are not brush fires. These are forests on fire.This time they burned to the west. Usually the winds are out of the west. We had some eastern winds in the northern part of the state at 50 mph gusts.A little less here in the southern part..
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/firemap.aspx

Oregon is a beautiful state. Their politics not so much.

So the fires are in the west, with the winds out of the west. Not good.

Causeing the fires to sweep inland.

Other way around...Most of the Fires are in Central Oregon...First part of the Week We had Winds from the East...Which drove the Smoke West...It was Pretty bad...

[Argent 88]

They are finding arsonist who are setting them. Guess who, BLM Antifa activist.  Who are now saying, if Trump is re- elected America will pay.

[Graybeard]

That story has now been debunked David. It was what was being said but FBI investigation says it's false.

[Argent 88]

That story has now been debunked David. It was what was being said but FBI investigation says it's false.

Lightning and dry brush I guess. It wouldn't take much to light it off.

[Graybeard]

Some at least those in California were from downed power lines. Those more specifically than in other states were what had been blamed on BLM and antifa that the FBI said weren't them.

[nw_hunter]

Different thing all together here in Oregon. These are not brush fires. These are forests on fire.This time they burned to the west. Usually the winds are out of the west. We had some eastern winds in the northern part of the state at 50 mph gusts.A little less here in the southern part..
https://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/firemap.aspx

Oregon is a beautiful state. Their politics not so much.

So the fires are in the west, with the winds out of the west. Not good.

Politics are extreme Liberalism. Same here as the political national map. Most of the state is red,but the large cities (Blue)have the vote and it's Liberal socialistic.
 The fires here this year are weird because the fires started in the Cascades (as usual) but the wind was strong and out of the east.It's usually out of the west, and keeps the fires in the cascade forests.This time it blew them to the west, and this is where the cities are. We have been pretty much confined to indoors for 6 days now. The ash from the fires has  for the most part stopped,but the smoke is like nothing I have ever seen. The fire east of me has been 10% contained.We need a good rain, and it's not likely.

[nw_hunter]

That story has now been debunked David. It was what was being said but FBI investigation says it's false.

Most of the fires here in Oregon are from lightning and negligence. Some have been started intentionally. One of the fires in my area was started by a crazy.
He is lodged in the Douglas county jail. There has also been looting.

[geezerbiker]

Where I live in Willamina, There's a fire with in a half hour drive in almost any direction.  I'm really looking forward to the rain on the forecast for Tuesday.

I've been wanting to do a little maintenance on my truck but I don't want to be out in the smoke any longer than I have to.

Tony

[geezerbiker]

That would explain it.  The fire danger wasn't that high and there really hasn't been any thunder storms in this area.  While much of the rest of the country had heat wave after heatwave, it's been a mild summer here in NW Oregon.  Arson makes perfect sense as to why there are so many fires.  I'm also not surprised that our worthless governor would cover it up...

Tony

[ironglows]

Somebody wants fires..  Here's a method they use to cause fires long after they are gone.  Of course, it the pole stands until a strong wind come along..starting a fire in a strong wind is the most opportune time to get a roaring fire in short order!

  https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/chainsaw-vandal-cutting-down-power-poles-in-snohomish-county-draws-attention-from-fbi/281-b9c5436c-f19a-418c-979e-f6ef459eca24

[ironglows]

I gather the Clackamas County Sheriff was just suspended. He claimed the fires were Antifa arson. I watched a county selectmans Clackamas meeting. They were told Antifa was stashing gas and bottles around the area at 11min45sec into the video. One selectman was very concerned. 2 others were Antifa defenders. I would post only that video got scrubbed.     Tony, maybe you can verify ..... TM7

  I find some statements very suspicious, when some authority says "Antifa did not start fires"..

   I can understand even if it is a bit early, some saying a certain fire was not arson, but to say "Antifa did not start fires" seems to be a reach, especially this early.  While   they do not seem to rule out arson..how can they proclaim that Antifa was not the ones who did it !
   https://heavy.com/news/2020/09/jeffrey-jeff-acord/

[nw_hunter]

I gather the Clackamas County Sheriff was just suspended. He claimed the fires were Antifa arson. I watched a county selectmans Clackamas meeting. They were told Antifa was stashing gas and bottles around the area at 11min45sec into the video. One selectman was very concerned. 2 others were Antifa defenders. I would post only that video got scrubbed.     Tony, maybe you can verify ..... TM7

Nothing about the Sheriff,but this from the daily fish wrapper!!


The sheriff’s office announced Saturday that Deputy Mark Nikolai, who has acted as public spokesperson for the agency in the past, had been placed on administrative leave after a video was published on social media telling the person recording that deputies “need the public’s help” with anti-fascists in the area. Nikolai suggested deputies could leave residents in charge of public safety if fire conditions got worse.

The Clackamas County Peace Officers Association, the union that represents law enforcement in Clackamas County, released a statement Saturday afternoon calling the video “sensationalized,” and said he was “speaking freely with a community member about the community’s understandable fear of looting and other criminal acts as our County burns.”

[orerancher]

I gather the Clackamas County Sheriff was just suspended. He claimed the fires were Antifa arson. I watched a county selectmans Clackamas meeting. They were told Antifa was stashing gas and bottles around the area at 11min45sec into the video. One selectman was very concerned. 2 others were Antifa defenders. I would post only that video got scrubbed.     Tony, maybe you can verify ..... TM7

Nothing about the Sheriff,but this from the daily fish wrapper!!


The sheriff’s office announced Saturday that Deputy Mark Nikolai, who has acted as public spokesperson for the agency in the past, had been placed on administrative leave after a video was published on social media telling the person recording that deputies “need the public’s help” with anti-fascists in the area. Nikolai suggested deputies could leave residents in charge of public safety if fire conditions got worse.

The Clackamas County Peace Officers Association, the union that represents law enforcement in Clackamas County, released a statement Saturday afternoon calling the video “sensationalized,” and said he was “speaking freely with a community member about the community’s understandable fear of looting and other criminal acts as our County burns.”

Tells Me, The Clackamas County Government Supports the Terrorists...

[geezerbiker]

The fire in the Yamhill county area was supposed to have been started by downed power lines but not a peep on the news about what brought the lines down.

I have no idea what's going on in Clackamas county but that area has been nuts for a long time so I suppose anything is possible...

Tony

[ironglows]

The radical left is capable of many ugly, despicable things.  It would be no surprise to me, if someday it were found that the rad left worked with the CCP to bring the China virus into the US !
Their TDS makes them so deranged and furious, I wouldn't put anything beyond them!

[geezerbiker]

I don't know what it's like in California but we got a little rain yesterday.  Personally I think it's too little too late but it at least around here, the air is clearer.

I drove to the next big town over (McMinnville, OR) and it was smokey all the way there.  Much worse than here about 25 miles west of there.  Anyway on the way back there was enough rain that I had to use the wipers for a bit a couple times and about halfway home I could see the sunset.  It's been too smokey for almost a week to see any sunset colors and it was a welcome sight.  I was also able to sleep with a window open last night and that too was much appreciated.

Regardless of how the fires started, they're finally coming under control...

Tony

[Argent 88]

Those poles have fuses in case of a downed line short. Phase to phase or to ground or neutral.
Ground fault interrupters, transient eliminators. It's all code now. The question now is, can all of
this fancy stuff catch it quick enough before it's starts a fire? Transmission loss detectors, if a high
tension voltage transmission line all of a sudden is broken, it trips immediately. Even before it would hit the ground.

If those idiots are screwing around like that, they could instantly become a crispy critter before it trips.
Unless they hit a sub station with transformer banks, which is highly unlikely.