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Doublebass73 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2020, 02:14:53 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 26, 2020, 11:11:26 PM

Skum bag hah?? Now you hurt my feelings Lucky its morning and i dont have to worry about sleep. Maybe you and mule can get together and figure a way to stop all the evil catholics. Maybe collect some sheets and 4x4s Heck between the two of you you could probably come up with 90 iq points. Birds of a feather-------------
Quote from: Doublebass73 on October 26, 2020, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 26, 2020, 02:49:19 AM
personally i dont believe you. Anyone can make claims like that on the internet. If it happened to more then one why havent they came forward and why isnt that priest facing charges like so many others are??? Add to that like i said i can find you examples of Methodist, Lutheran, Baptist ministers and Jewish rabis that have done the same. Why is it worse when its a catholic to you. Right here in this town a Baptist minister molested 4 kids. He was arrested and went to trial and was found guilty of some reduced charge the lawyer drummed up and got off with probation and disappeared from this area. It made the 4th page of the regional news paper. If it would have been a catholic priest it would have been plastered all over nbc news which if you watch is the biggest hater of the catholic church in the country as are the socialist trying to get biden into office. that alone ought to open up your eyes. 25 miles from here theres a Methodist church that has an openly gay women as a minister. Why doesnt that make the news. Why doesnt Mule post about the methodists?

Why do the liberals hate catholics more then any other religion?? Because we have morals and stick to them. We dont turn a blind eye to abortion we dont allow same sex marriage and dont allow homosexuals to take holy communion. That said ANYONE is welcome to come into our chruch and our pope would like EVERYONE to come in give up there sinful practices and become a member. Yup even reformed homosexuals, murderers and even pedophiles. Why? Because God forgives ANY sin that you are repentant for. It isnt the popes job to judge man anymore then its your job to judge him. Bottom line is you can attempt to judge my christianity my church the pope or any other church that doesnt agree with you but it doesnt hold a bit of sway. Jesus said "ONLY I WILL JUDGE" He said judging others IS A SIN. I will only kneel for him and will only be judged by him. Not some redneck on an internet gun forum. taking religious advice here is about like taking advice on what the best carry gun is from Obama. Do just the opposite and your closer to the truth. To think being judged by you or mule means a pinch of crap to me is enough of a joke to make my day.
Quote from: Doublebass73 on October 26, 2020, 02:07:42 AM
Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 25, 2020, 10:51:47 PM
I think they may have banged a few here. Why else would you be so full of hate. Either that our your upset they didnt choose you

My catholic priest at the church I grew up in raped my cousin and a few of my friends growing up. He ruined their lives. My cousin is 46 years old and still messed up over it. One kid who our priest raped committed suicide over it. One kid who he raped threatened to go to the police so the priest stole money from the collection every week to pay the kid hush money. Oh and to top it all off that same priest raped dozens of kids at another church and when the Catholic church found out about it what did the bishop do? He moved this priest to MY church where he could have a fresh set of victims.

You have a sick brain to post such things, you're a disgusting person.

Here you go scumbag, tell the dozens of victims of this particular priest that you don't believe them or me and also tell them how great the catholic church is for moving this priest to my church after he raped dozens of boys at his previous church. Sure sounds like a great organization to me:
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/05/24/defrocked-priest-ronald-paquin-ordered-to-serve-16-years-in-maine

Anyone who would make fun of and make light of the victims of sexual abuse is a scumbag and a worthless human being.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2020, 02:38:44 AM »

whatever. Twist it any way you like. Your opinion of me doesnt mean a pinch of crap. Matter of fact when people who think like you come at me I take it as a compliment.

Now you have to deal with one more of us evil catholics as a surpreme court justice. Now she WILL effect your life!! Maybe you can join shummer and pelosi in there disgust about that

You keep doing your part to split up and weaken Christianity and the morals in this country. Like mule i doubt you even go to a church because you didnt learn that hate in ANY Christian church or by reading ANYTHING in the bible. Might want to go back and find out exactly what Jesus taught. It would be an eye opener for some of you.

geezerbiker · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2020, 03:08:34 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 26, 2020, 11:37:20 PM

Nah it seems the non catholics get more concerned about what the pope does day to day then the catholics do. He doesnt control my life of effect my day to day in any way. No more then the queen of england. Kind of like saying all of a state is poison because they have a bad governor or your going to leave the country if a democrat gets elected president both who in fact have a thousand times more to control your day to day life then the pope does sitting in italy. My governors crap but i think this is a great state. If biden gets elected i think ill stay right here. The pope? About the only time he is even thought about is when one of these stupid redneck good old boy rants is posted here. I still havent seen it explained why the liberals want so badly to keep that catholic out of the supreme court. I guess there afraid she will kill babies or outlaw baptist churches. Nope they want to kill babies and want to kill Christianity. She wants to stop it. Her stands on these issues mirror the chruches and are EXACTLY why trump nominated her!! It gets tiring listening to some of the idots here who close there eyes to children being molsted in there own chruch, in there own towns by city officials teachers police ect and the only child molestation cases that ever hit the FAKE news are when its a catholic priest and some here are to stupid to realize its just another brain washing the liberal news network is doing to the coumtry. Pit christian against christian and let them destroy each other while they sit back laughing and your to STUPID to see it and play right into there hands. Sad thing is this hate against the catholic church was passed down generations, as far back as when Martin Luther split from the church way before the priest molesting cases hit the news. Way back when your grandpappy and his Klan wanted to murder every black (any minority) any Jew or any Catholic. You sadly were taught to hate as a normal part of your childhood. The molestations didnt spark the hate. That was just ammo to justify the hate. SO MUCH HATE and SO MUCH JUDGING. All in DIRECT conflict with the bible and the word of GOD that some of you like quoting. But like i said memorizing a book doesnt get you to heaven. Something a good many here are going to find out fairly soon. You guys can have this one now. God is watching and im sure hes fuming by now. I sure dont want him to mix me up with the haters and the people that are judging in his name here. If i keep my nose clean i wont have to spend eternity with some of you!!!!!! by the way gezzer dont think this was aimed right at you. Your a minor player in this hate fest.

I don't know where you get this. I don't hate Catholics. About 25% of my family is of that faith including my late mother. My family thinks my religious choice is a bit crazy as I do there's but there's no hate involved. Truth be known, I think most Christian faiths have more in common than they like to admit. Many see my beliefs in Intelligent design over strict creationism as crazy but I'm the first to say I may be wrong but this is what I believe.

Tony

Mule 11 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:09:20 AM »

Pope Francis has failed the Catholics and there church. Loyd can’t defend this so instead we’re all racists, jealous because we’re not being sexually abused by priests, kkk members, haters, full of hate, I’m sure I missed quite a bit but you get the idea. You’d think we were the ones making the church look bad instead of the pope. I also have nothing against Catholics as some of them are my favorite people. Seems like socialist, liberal tactics to me. You and the pope ought to get along great...

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:29:47 AM »

honest about your beliefs and I respect that. At least your not a phony.

Quote from: geezerbiker on October 27, 2020, 03:08:34 AM

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 26, 2020, 11:37:20 PM
Nah it seems the non catholics get more concerned about what the pope does day to day then the catholics do. He doesnt control my life of effect my day to day in any way. No more then the queen of england. Kind of like saying all of a state is poison because they have a bad governor or your going to leave the country if a democrat gets elected president both who in fact have a thousand times more to control your day to day life then the pope does sitting in italy. My governors crap but i think this is a great state. If biden gets elected i think ill stay right here. The pope? About the only time he is even thought about is when one of these stupid redneck good old boy rants is posted here. I still havent seen it explained why the liberals want so badly to keep that catholic out of the supreme court. I guess there afraid she will kill babies or outlaw baptist churches. Nope they want to kill babies and want to kill Christianity. She wants to stop it. Her stands on these issues mirror the chruches and are EXACTLY why trump nominated her!! It gets tiring listening to some of the idots here who close there eyes to children being molsted in there own chruch, in there own towns by city officials teachers police ect and the only child molestation cases that ever hit the FAKE news are when its a catholic priest and some here are to stupid to realize its just another brain washing the liberal news network is doing to the coumtry. Pit christian against christian and let them destroy each other while they sit back laughing and your to STUPID to see it and play right into there hands. Sad thing is this hate against the catholic church was passed down generations, as far back as when Martin Luther split from the church way before the priest molesting cases hit the news. Way back when your grandpappy and his Klan wanted to murder every black (any minority) any Jew or any Catholic. You sadly were taught to hate as a normal part of your childhood. The molestations didnt spark the hate. That was just ammo to justify the hate. SO MUCH HATE and SO MUCH JUDGING. All in DIRECT conflict with the bible and the word of GOD that some of you like quoting. But like i said memorizing a book doesnt get you to heaven. Something a good many here are going to find out fairly soon. You guys can have this one now. God is watching and im sure hes fuming by now. I sure dont want him to mix me up with the haters and the people that are judging in his name here. If i keep my nose clean i wont have to spend eternity with some of you!!!!!! by the way gezzer dont think this was aimed right at you. Your a minor player in this hate fest.

I don't know where you get this. I don't hate Catholics. About 25% of my family is of that faith including my late mother. My family thinks my religious choice is a bit crazy as I do there's but there's no hate involved. Truth be known, I think most Christian faiths have more in common than they like to admit. Many see my beliefs in Intelligent design over strict creationism as crazy but I'm the first to say I may be wrong but this is what I believe.

Tony

Dee · « **Reply #35 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:42:59 AM »

The fact of the matter is, that this is not about catholics. Its about an apostic pope who is dragging Islam, and sexual perversions into the catholic organization, as did the catholic priest a month or so back at St Francis Xavier giving white privilege sacraments.

It is news worthy, it has made international headlines, and is worthy of discussion.
Anyone defending either, obviously agrees with it,or they wouldn't defend them.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #36 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:58:28 AM »

comical thing in all of this is hes being condemed for doing something the protestant chruch at least many different chruches that are protestant have condoned or turned a blind eye to for decades. Not only homosexuality but abortion as well. Comical thing is you all want to gang up on the catholic chruch but as protestants cant even agree amongst yourselves. The catholic church will turn away no sinner. Even a murderer is welcome because thats the way jesus taught us to be. But what the chruch wont do is allow any one in a same sex marrage or is openly gay or has had an abortion or helped someone have one or commited any mortal sin to recieve the sacrament of holy communion. Been that way forever. This pope hasnt changed it. I guess the way i look at it is church is for sinners. If we were without sin we wouldnt need it. The worse the sin the more you need it. But then maybe Jesus was wrong

Bob Riebe · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2020, 09:29:16 AM »

Time to close this thread, it has become Pee-Wee Herman: I'm not, what about you -- like the first debate.

Dee · « **Reply #38 on:** October 27, 2020, 10:54:59 AM »

Quote from: Bob Riebe on October 27, 2020, 09:29:16 AM

Time to close this thread, it has become Pee-Wee Herman: I'm not, what about you -- like the first debate.

No, its about censorship. Censoring the many, to pacify the few.

Mule 11 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 27, 2020, 11:26:37 AM »

The more time you spend on a forum the more you learn about its members. In the past I’ve asked who some are protecting. Ya learn...

Argent 88 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 27, 2020, 11:38:47 AM »

Quote from: Mule 11 on October 27, 2020, 11:26:37 AM

The more time you spend on a forum the more you learn about its members. In the past I’ve asked who some are protecting. Ya learn...

I dont see that here. Not by your definition.

Mule 11 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 27, 2020, 11:56:11 AM »

Who cares what you see? As you are clueless as to what I’m saying... What definition?

Argent 88 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:06:51 PM »

No, Ive just seen how you really are in the past. And ive been a target of your hate before.

Mule 11 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:11:24 PM »

I have relaxed and doing my best to be civil.

Mule 11 · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:13:54 PM »

I have also seen your hate in the past... Maybe we should censor these human traits?

Graybeard · « **Reply #45 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:15:31 PM »

I'm not protecting any member over the rest. I try to give all of you as much latitude as I can and as much free speech as I can but when the personal attacks start then I do have to get involved. So long as ya avoid the name calling and personal attacks you're welcome to express your views for or against most anything.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2020, 01:23:30 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 27, 2020, 02:38:44 AM

whatever. Twist it any way you like. Your opinion of me doesnt mean a pinch of crap. Matter of fact when people who think like you come at me I take it as a compliment. Now you have to deal with one more of us evil catholics as a surpreme court justice. Now she WILL effect your life!! Maybe you can join shummer and pelosi in there disgust about that You keep doing your part to split up and weaken Christianity and the morals in this country. Like mule i doubt you even go to a church because you didnt learn that hate in ANY Christian church or by reading ANYTHING in the bible. Might want to go back and find out exactly what Jesus taught. It would be an eye opener for some of you.

Most of my family is catholic, I have no issues with catholics. Just the church itself.

I find it extremely hypocritical for someone who says this in reference to sexual abuse by catholic priests to lecture others on the teachings of Jesus:

"I think they may have banged a few here. Why else would you be so full of hate. Either that our your upset they didnt choose you "
Lloyd Smale

Is that what Jesus taught Lloyd?

two-blocked · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2020, 05:06:03 AM »

Sexual identity and sexual behavior are closely related to sexual orientation, but they are distinguished, with identity referring to an individual's conception of themselves, behavior referring to actual sexual acts performed by the individual, and sexual orientation referring to romantic or sexual attractions toward persons of the opposite sex or gender, the same sex or gender, to both sexes or more than one gender, or to no one.

Historical models of sexual identity have tended to view its formation as a process undergone only by sexual minorities, while more contemporary models view the process as far more universal and attempt to present sexual identity within the larger scope of other major identity theories and processes.

In spite of their other issues I've always admired Catholics for recognizing facts and science. Kudos to the Pope.

powderman · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2020, 06:23:10 AM »

Sexual identity and sexual behavior are closely related to sexual orientation, but they are distinguished, with identity referring to an individual's conception of themselves,

HEH. Sexual identity?? I can't remember anybody I grew up with that didn't know whether they were a boy or girl. Pretty apparent every time we went pee. Only a problem today for perverts and democrats. This pope can't seem to tell the difference between perverts and real people. Condoning sin is wrong and can mislead a lot of folks.

Bob Riebe · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2020, 06:55:42 AM »

Quote from: two-blocked on October 28, 2020, 05:06:03 AM

Sexual identity and sexual behavior are closely related to sexual orientation, but they are distinguished

That is a load of bovine excrement spread by over educated god wannbes for whom being described as intelligent is using an antonym.

Some people have a biological problem with organs from both sexes, that can cause a real problem, while others have a hormone problems, and others are simply mind focked.

two-blocked · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2020, 08:37:48 AM »

So people can be born with sexual organs that don’t conform to a strict binary system but there’s no chance their brains can’t.

Argent 88 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2020, 08:55:05 AM »

Why do they make it so confusing ? I like grown women plain and simple, I don't really care about all this other weird stuff, or those who do it or those trying to explain it. Stone bird, you seem to know all about it.
Humm, you hiding something in your little wood pile?

Dee · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2020, 11:10:58 AM »

Quote from: two-blocked on October 28, 2020, 08:37:48 AM

So people can be born with sexual organs that don’t conform to a strict binary system but there’s no chance their brains can’t.

So you think God messed up, and put the wrong brain in a guy, when it was supposed to go in a woman?

Mule 11 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2020, 03:00:11 PM »

Homosexuality is a mental illness and flaunting it is just an exacerbation of the same...

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #54 on:** October 28, 2020, 11:13:09 PM »

I dont pretend to be the PERFECT Christian or pretend to understand what every scripture means. I dont know if my beliefs are infallible. matter of fact id bet there not. I dont call people skum bags because they disagree with my beliefs but my church IS my family and if you come for them you come for me. But then you and your but buddy never shy away from attacking ANYTHING catholic or for that matter me. Both of you just happen to show up at about every post i start looking for conflict. Lucky for me your both easy work. Why? Because most non Christians dont understand Christianity to begin with and like you just have hate to argue with. Hate is just one notch up from insanity. It doesn't use intelligence or reason it uses just emotion

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Quote from: Doublebass73 on October 28, 2020, 01:23:30 AM

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 27, 2020, 02:38:44 AM
whatever. Twist it any way you like. Your opinion of me doesnt mean a pinch of crap. Matter of fact when people who think like you come at me I take it as a compliment. Now you have to deal with one more of us evil catholics as a surpreme court justice. Now she WILL effect your life!! Maybe you can join shummer and pelosi in there disgust about that You keep doing your part to split up and weaken Christianity and the morals in this country. Like mule i doubt you even go to a church because you didnt learn that hate in ANY Christian church or by reading ANYTHING in the bible. Might want to go back and find out exactly what Jesus taught. It would be an eye opener for some of you.

Most of my family is catholic, I have no issues with catholics. Just the church itself.

I find it extremely hypocritical for someone who says this in reference to sexual abuse by catholic priests to lecture others on the teachings of Jesus:

"I think they may have banged a few here. Why else would you be so full of hate. Either that our your upset they didnt choose you "
Lloyd Smale

Is that what Jesus taught Lloyd?

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #55 on:** October 28, 2020, 11:30:08 PM »

Homsexuality?? Its a choice or can be caused by environmental things like poor parenting or mental trauma and yup some are just born that way. Ever see a 5 year old boy that you just know will be gay?? I think all of us have. A not a mental disease as much as just a miss wiring in the brain. that probably has no cure. That said i dont get riled up about it either. I could care less if someone living down the road is gay or even has a gay partner. Would i invite them in for coffee nope. But im not going to beat them up or parade in front of there homes with a sign or burn a cross in there yard either. This is a FREE country. What you do in your home that doesnt effect my family is your own business. I guess in that way im even more lenient then my church. For about the 20th time ill say the catholic church and the pope DO NOT condone homosexuality. They see it as a sin and the job of the church is to get SINNERS in there to repent and see the light of GOD!! If your church would ban a homosexual from a chance at redemption because of your homophobic beliefs then its not a true Christian church. Jesus sat next to Adulterers, murderers, prostitutes, thief's and probably homosexuals too. Some of them that even broke the 10 commandments. I wonder if some that get so worked up about it dont themselves fear it because of whats in there heads??? Same ones hate Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Northerners, and mexicans. Seems to me THEY are a bigger problem then some peaceful gay guy or women that keeps to himself. My own doctor is an openly gay women that the VA hired. She doesn't hide it one bit. Shes even the butch one in the relationship. She is about as nice of a person as ive met. She goes out of her way even on her own time to help vets. Best dammed doctor i ever had. Do you really think i give a pinch of crap what she does when she gets home?

MENTAL DISEASE?? homophonics that say they would kick there ass or string them up?? people that say they stand on the border and murder people are mentality ill. People that hate because of race religion or even where people were born are mentality ill. NOW those people need help. they are the dangerous ones not some cupcake and his boyfriend that just want to be left alone. Seems to me some here would be better men if they spent a 1/3 of the time they spend hating others looking in the mirror. But then they might just find out they hate the image reflected in it too. I suppose someone will twist this into some bs attack like i condone pedophiles like some idot already did in this thread. Id expect no less because i have a pretty good grasp on the kind of people i deal with in these kinds of threads. When they dont have facts to argue they use emotion and i covered that one already.

neckisred · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2020, 12:49:28 AM »

Don't know quite how to word this, hopefully it makes sense. Kids today are exposed to homosexuality very young. I often wonder because of this exposure, if they think its ok, or their choice to have a same sex boyfriend or girlfriend? The first time I picked my youngest up from high school, I saw probably 10 same sex "couples". Closest I think I've ever been to a heart attack. When I asked my daughter about this, she shrugged it off as no big deal. I guess I agree some are born gay, but I can't help but think its more of an "option " for these young kids?

Dee · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2020, 03:16:54 AM »

Quote from: neckisred on October 29, 2020, 12:49:28 AM

Don't know quite how to word this, hopefully it makes sense. Kids today are exposed to homosexuality very young. I often wonder because of this exposure, if they think its ok, or their choice to have a same sex boyfriend or girlfriend? The first time I picked my youngest up from high school, I saw probably 10 same sex "couples". Closest I think I've ever been to a heart attack. When I asked my daughter about this, she shrugged it off as no big deal. I guess I agree some are born gay, but I can't help but think its more of an "option " for these young kids?

Todays kids are encouraged to experiment with sexual perversion by some school systems.
Its not an emotional issue for most here, but more of a recognition of some religious organizations accepting perversion into their beliefs systems, in this case a very fractured catholic pope.

That some become emotional is obvious, and easily noted, even here, but this Pope is truly dangerous to the catholic organization, and is try to distort their long held doctrine on this issue.

RaySendero · « **Reply #58 on:** October 29, 2020, 12:52:13 PM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 28, 2020, 11:30:08 PM

For about the 20th time ill say the catholic church and the pope DO NOT condone homosexuality

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926219084/pope-francis-calls-for-same-sex-civil-union-law-in-new-documentary

"Pope Francis has called for legislation to protect same-sex couples,
according to comments he made in a new documentary
that mark a break from Catholic doctrine.
Pope said; Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family.
They are children of God and have a right to a family"

So he ain't condoning homosexuality ?!

Mule 11 · « **Reply #59 on:** October 29, 2020, 01:11:30 PM »

Quote from: RaySendero on October 29, 2020, 12:52:13 PM

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on October 28, 2020, 11:30:08 PM

For about the 20th time ill say the catholic church and the pope DO NOT condone homosexuality

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926219084/pope-francis-calls-for-same-sex-civil-union-law-in-new-documentary

"Pope Francis has called for legislation to protect same-sex couples,
according to comments he made in a new documentary
that mark a break from Catholic doctrine.
Pope said; Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family.
They are children of God and have a right to a family"

So he ain't condoning homosexuality ?!

Don’t expect loyd to understand anything, your head has to be extracted from your arse to understand anything other then the smell of your own crap...