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Offline Argent 88

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Ice tires.
« on: October 27, 2020, 04:12:15 AM »
I remember in Iceland they had these, with little metal cleats made into them. I sure could use a set of those today. Ive never seen any of them here in the states, just folks using chains or cables. But you couldn't use the cleated tires on dry roads, but everyone in Iceland had a set of them just in case. The ice would stay on the roads for weeks at a time up there. We had them on all of our trucks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2020, 07:23:43 AM »
We had them up here 50 some years ago when ploughing roads was not done any where near the level it is now;' often even major highways were no ploughed for over a day.
They destroyed roads, quickly so they were banned.

I now put top level, Michelin, only second to Blizzak , though I have read there is supposed to be a tire from Finland that is superior to both but extremely hard to find, on all four corners.
It stopped driving in winter from being a white knuckle affair.

Thirty years ago I was driving North , 50 miles , wlhen there was a solid ice cap on all roads.
I watched a econo box slide sideways off the road , on a down hil banked curve, into the ditch.
I did not stop as if I had I would have been stuck.
That experience made me decide it was time to run snow tires again, the All=season crap is a fools folly up here.

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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 07:51:11 AM »
They were ok for ice and snow, but not for dry roads. Not only was that hard on the roads, but on the tire also, which would end up flying apart. I don't know what they are using up there now. Ive seen where using chains were hard on a tire, but not so much with the cables.

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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 08:48:17 AM »
We used to have them some 50 years ago in western NY. They were eventually outlawed because of the damage to the road. They used to make tires that had small pockets in them to insert the studs. It looks like you could still do something similar with studs that screw in. Might cost a big fine if you got caught on the road with them.

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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2020, 09:31:37 AM »
Chains, the old style I still have, are good up to 40 maybe 45, after that you can have problems.

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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2020, 09:43:47 AM »
Bob I use the cables, they are easy to put on and good on roads that have spotty ice. Still about 45 mph though.

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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 02:17:08 PM »
In Alaska we used studded tires for winter but they were required by law to be taken off in the summer.
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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 10:40:22 PM »
when i was a teenager they were allowed here in MI but like Ak you had to take them off by a certain date in the spring. They tore the roads up so bad that they banned them. Today its no big deal. Just about everyone up here has a 4x4 and if not for sure a front wheel drive and even they will go through alot of snow and we get ALOT of snow. Still some states that allow chains but there mostly the mountain areas of states out west. Live up here all your life and icy roads are a normal part of life. I allways said if nascar held one race up here on an icy track my mother could have probably wooped jimmy johnson. For the most part ice and snow dont even slow traffic much after a couple weeks of winter. Only thing that slows traffic is a storm when you cant see. 
In Alaska we used studded tires for winter but they were required by law to be taken off in the summer.
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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2020, 12:00:08 AM »
As most here have said, studded tires reached a certain level of popularity in the northern states.  I believe the use tapered off on recent years, due to different plowing practices, and  the increased popularity of 4WD.
  I put them on my wife's cars for several years, and they do make a huge difference on ice. That was back in the 1970s, when I lived on a gravel road, front wheel drive was also a plus factor for her.  But it wasn't just for the gravel roads, since they made a great difference whenever ice was encountered.
   The drawbacks...studs were tough on roads..and our laws here, said they must not be on before November, and off by May 1.
  I believe the concept was invented in Scandinavia, where they had ice racing, and the competitors would stud their tires.
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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2020, 11:59:49 PM »
There was even noise about banning snowmobile tracks from being studded up here. You drive around in the summer and see actual 20 inch wide groves cut in the roads where the trails cross them. Every summer the county road commission has to repair them.
As most here have said, studded tires reached a certain level of popularity in the northern states.  I believe the use tapered off on recent years, due to different plowing practices, and  the increased popularity of 4WD.
  I put them on my wife's cars for several years, and they do make a huge difference on ice. That was back in the 1970s, when I lived on a gravel road, front wheel drive was also a plus factor for her.  But it wasn't just for the gravel roads, since they made a great difference whenever ice was encountered.
   The drawbacks...studs were tough on roads..and our laws here, said they must not be on before November, and off by May 1.
  I believe the concept was invented in Scandinavia, where they had ice racing, and the competitors would stud their tires.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQxrXHdalE8
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Re: Ice tires.
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 03:18:39 AM »
Our tracked vehicles had hard rubber pads added to them in between the grouser bars in order to protect the roads in Iceland. Sticking out like they did it actually gave them a lot more traction in the deep snow or mud. Not so much on the hard ice though. You ever get tracks stuck in deep mud sometimes they would get high
centered and only spin digging in deeper. Then it  took a another big winched vehicle to pull then out.