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Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« on: November 27, 2020, 02:05:53 PM »
   
Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.

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New DOJ rules could allow firing squads, electrocution, poisonous gas for executions
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The Justice Department is changing protocols to allow lethal gas, electrocution and firing squad for capital punishment, as five federal prisoners are expected to be executed before Inauguration Day.


The new rule was published in the Federal Register on Friday. It stipulates that federal executions are to be carried out by lethal injection “or by any other manner prescribed by the law of the State in which the sentence was imposed or which has been designated by a court" in accordance with laws that govern death sentences.

"If applicable law provides that the prisoner may choose among multiple manners of execution, the Director or his designee shall notify the prisoner of that option," the rule states.

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The rules will go into effect 30 days from Friday.

Currently, only lethal injection is used for federal executions, but other states give death row inmates the option of other forms of execution.

In Florida, for example, an inmate can specifically ask to be put to death by electrocution and in Washington state, inmates can ask to be put to death by hanging. In Utah, prisoners sentenced before May 2004 can choose a firing squad. The state law there also authorizes the use of a firing squad if lethal injection drugs aren’t available.

Many states have had issues procuring suitable drugs for lethal injections.


After a botched state execution in Oklahoma in 2014, President Barack Obama directed the Justice Department to review capital punishment and issues surrounding lethal injection drugs.

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A federal prison complex in Terre Haute, Ind. The Justice Department is quietly amending its execution protocols, no longer requiring federal death sentences to be carried out by lethal injection and clearing the way for other methods like firing squads and poison gas.  (AP Photo/Michael Conroy, File)
The Trump administration resumed federal executions in July 2019 after a 17-year ban. Lisa Montgomery, 52, is one of the federal inmates scheduled for execution and the only woman on federal death row. Her execution is scheduled for Dec. 8.

She was convicted in connection with the 2004 killing of a pregnant woman.

Brandon Bernard, convicted of the 1999 murders of two youth ministers, is scheduled to die Dec. 10. In a court filing last week, the Justice Department said it was scheduling the executions of Alfred Bourgeois for Dec. 11, and Cory Johnson and Dustin Higgs for Jan. 14 and 15.

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Prosecutors said Bourgeois tortured, sexually molested and then beat his 2 1/2-year-old daughter to death.

Johnson was one of three crack cocaine dealers convicted in a string of murders. Prosecutors said he killed seven people in an attempt to expand the territory of a Richmond, Va., gang and silence informants. His co-defendants, members of the same drug gang, are also on death row.

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Four of the five inmates scheduled to die before the end of President's Trump term will be executed at the federal penitentiary in Terre Haute, Ind., by lethal injection.

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The method of death for Higgs, convicted of kidnapping and murdering three women, was not disclosed. Federal inmate Orlando Hall, convicted of killing a 16-year-old girl, was executed last week.

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President-elect Joe Biden has voiced his opposition to the death penalty and will work to end the practice, a spokesman has said. The opposition stems in part because of wrongfully convicted inmates who have been sentenced to death.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2020, 05:36:45 PM »
I never figured why they wouldn't
allow a 22 in the back of the head.
Instantaneous and no anxiety for
the poor inmate. Way cheaper than
any other method all the way around
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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2020, 05:38:24 AM »
Cause sometimes it doesn't work.
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2020, 05:52:44 AM »
High intensity lasers work in the back of the head. Turns the brain into mush in a millisecond.
Zap flop.

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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2020, 05:55:10 AM »
I never figured why they wouldn't
allow a 22 in the back of the head.
Instantaneous and no anxiety for
the poor inmate. Way cheaper than
any other method all the way around


RANGER. Agreed Sir. WAY too much attention pd to the murderers comfort or convenience. If 1 bullet doesn't work, keep shooting. CHARLIE.
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 06:48:43 AM »
  The  guillotine always seemed to me the most efficient and goof proof method .

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 06:55:20 AM »
I still like the pulse laser idea, it's been successfully tested for use on livestock. No convulsions, no nothing, there immediately are no longer any nerve connections to the rest of the body. Lights out.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 06:59:32 AM »
  The  guillotine always seemed to me the most efficient and goof proof method .

Ahh, but there was a man beheaded who told his friend that if his head and brain was still active for a few seconds. He would blink at him, which he did do.

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 07:04:25 AM »
Strap that laser on the back of the head, no fuss no muss mess to clean up. Gas and electrocution, and injection. They crap all over themselves.

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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 07:14:43 AM »
I never figured why they wouldn't
allow a 22 in the back of the head.
Instantaneous and no anxiety for
the poor inmate. Way cheaper than
any other method all the way around
   


RANGER. Agreed Sir. WAY too much attention pd to the murderers comfort or convenience. If 1 bullet doesn't work, keep shooting. CHARLIE.

  If one bullet doesn't work, use a bigger bullet !  ;D
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Re: Allowable means of execution under new doj rules.
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2020, 08:05:12 AM »
I like the firing squad as a legal means of execution.  I remember the Gary Gilmore one in Utah.  Something like 5 guys and 4 bullets so no one knows for sure if he did the killing.  I seen lots of animals die from a shot through the heart, it usually is very quick.  I walked up on a bear once that others thought would kill me.  I shot it through the heart, front on and it just dropped it's head.

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2020, 11:21:16 AM »
I like the firing squad as a legal means of execution.  I remember the Gary Gilmore one in Utah.  Something like 5 guys and 4 bullets so no one knows for sure if he did the killing.  I seen lots of animals die from a shot through the heart, it usually is very quick.  I walked up on a bear once that others thought would kill me.  I shot it through the heart, front on and it just dropped it's head.
   I've often wondered about that idea.  Say we are in a firing squad, using  30/06 or even 7mm Mausers..  I can tell by the recoil if I fired a bullet or not.  Even a video of the shoot would show who had the live round.
  Felt recoil would tell each of the shooters if they had fired a full round.
   It has been a source of amusement to see a movie where cannons fire, and no recoil..just a flash from the muzzle.  Even our tank guns recoiled back some 14" !
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2020, 12:41:31 PM »
Just roast em that's all we need to do. Cheap, reliable, and the libs can't bitch about cruelty.
No blood, no mistakes we just turn off all the lights in a split second with a single button.
Much more humaine than what they do in abortions. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2020, 01:12:11 PM »
Many years ago a murderer rapist was hung over in the Eastern parts of KY. Didn't break his neck just choked and strangled him. Onlookers got tired of watching him kicking and left. Quite a while later he somehow got off of that tree and stumbled into a store with the rope still on his neck and hands tied. He had turned black I reckon from lack of oxygen.  They cut the rope off his throat and took him to the sheriff who immediately hung him again. It worked that time. CHARLIE.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2020, 01:17:22 PM »
Many years ago a murderer rapist was hung over in the Eastern parts of KY. Didn't break his neck just choked and strangled him. Onlookers got tired of watching him kicking and left. Quite a while later he somehow got off of that tree and stumbled into a store with the rope still on his neck and hands tied. He had turned black I reckon from lack of oxygen.  They cut the rope off his throat and took him to the sheriff who immediately hung him again. It worked that time. CHARLIE.  :o :o

States like TX are looking into just turning off the lights.

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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2020, 03:06:23 PM »
If he were a particularly cold blooded murderer...maybe pack his mouth full of C-4 and touch it off !
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2020, 03:14:15 PM »
If he were a particularly cold blooded murderer...maybe pack his mouth full of C-4 and touch it off !

To much of a mess to clean up.