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Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« on: December 01, 2020, 04:20:08 AM »
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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2020, 04:28:03 AM »
It is better than lime away for cleaning a toilet.

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2020, 08:54:37 AM »
The problem is, I don't  think I've ever used up a can before it (WD-40) ran out of propellant.  I like Aerokroil, or Silikroil.  Sometimes just plain silicone is the ticket.  In my woodworking shop I spray silicone on all the cast iron work surfaces to prevent rust and reduce friction.
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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2020, 08:56:57 AM »
I made money off WD40 using gun owners.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2020, 09:34:41 AM »
I made money off WD40 using gun owners.
I imagine so.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2020, 11:54:50 AM »
It is also a pretty good drilling and tapping fluid. Hoppe’s #9 is better for aluminum and either is really good for removing adhesive residue but Hoppe’s seems to have an edge over WD-40.

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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2020, 12:07:30 PM »
I have heard some claim WD 40 is a good arthritis treatment.  I am not recommending it, just heard it helps. Likely somebody who had arthritic hands and used some in their work, felt that it eased the symptoms.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2020, 01:52:13 PM »
I had some corrosion on my battery terminals one time so I sprayed a little WD-40 on'em and it seeped down around the post and shut off power.
It does NOT conduct electricity!!!!!!
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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2020, 01:52:51 PM »
I have read that it is good on fishing lures etc. as a fish attractant.  I have not tried it myself but others have said it is great.

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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2020, 01:53:57 PM »
I made money off WD40 using gun owners.

I don't think it is good on bluing; is that right Dee?

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2020, 03:32:36 PM »
Nope! WD-40 is basically just "fish oil" and won't hurt the  bluing.

When sprayed into the action of a gun such as a revolver its liquidity begins to evaporate leaving a thick gooey varnish over time.
I've seen it so bad in handguns that it slowed the hammer to the point of misfires.
Pump shotguns with fail to feeds, and sticky safeties.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2020, 03:59:43 PM »
   About 10 years ago, my neighbor's house burned.  He had a small collection of .22 rifles, which he retrieved after the fire.  Room didn't burn, but everything was somewhat heated and water soaked.  I gave him my can of WD40...but in his upset condition, he only sprayed one of them down with WD40.  It was the only one that didn't rust severely.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2020, 04:40:53 PM »
Over on the other site , there are dozens of posts on WD40 ; the name stands for Water Displacement formula 40.
IT is NOT a lubricant and many firearms and other sliding mechanical pieces have been ruined by people using if for a lubricant.

There are now many other WD40 products that just use the name but are not related to the WD40 part.

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2020, 04:49:44 PM »
I believe WD-40 was developed by NASA to displace water off of computer circuits.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry. Working in a small lab in San Diego, California, it took them 40 attempts to get the water displacing formula worked out. But they must have been really good, because the original secret formula for WD-40® Multi-Use Product -which stands for Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try—is still in use today.

Convair, an aerospace contractor, first used WD-40 Multi-Use Product to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion. The product actually worked so well that several employees snuck some cans out of the plant to use at home.

A few years following WD-40 Multi-Use Product's first industrial use, Rocket Chemical Company founder Norm Larsen experimented with putting WD-40 Multi-Use Product into aerosol cans, reasoning that consumers might find a use for the product at home as some of the employees had. The product made its first appearance on store shelves in San Diego in 1958.


Don't Spray It On:
1. Door hinges. Sure, WD-40 will stop the squeaking, but it also attracts dust and dirt. Over time, you'll end up with ugly black streaks on your hinges.

2. Bike chains. WD-40 can cause dirt and dust to stick to a chain. Use bike-specific lubricants, which typically contain Teflon.

3. Paintball guns. WD-40 can melt the seals in the guns.

4. Locks. The spray can prematurely wear down the internal mechanisms, especially in the pin tumbler locks, in door locks and padlocks. Go for graphite powder.


5. iPods and iPads. WD-40 won't repair the Home button on these devices. In fact, the spray can cause the plastic to break down on the cover, and if some gets inside the electronics, it can damage plastic parts inside.

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2020, 11:54:20 PM »
I can't believe anyone still uses that crap.  The cloranated solvents in it are bad for most types of steel and really bad for stainless.  It's not a very good penetrating oil either.  When used on motorcycle throttle cables it can cause them to stick open causing bad crashes and even worse on snowmobiles where it will freeze long before anything else causing the throttle to stick open so bad that pulling out on the throttle lever won't help.

I won't allow a can of that garbage in my shop...

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2020, 02:07:10 AM »
I have heard some claim WD 40 is a good arthritis treatment.  I am not recommending it, just heard it helps. Likely somebody who had arthritic hands and used some in their work, felt that it eased the symptoms.

My wife had an aunt that swore by it for her arthritic knees and swore at me when I laughed at her for using it.

Many years ago I had a 1 ton Ford with a 6 cyl engine and any time it arined and I had to drive thru a mudhole no matter how slowly I drove that thing would drownd out. I carried a can of Wd-40 behind the seat just because of that. Get out, wade around and raise the hood, and spray the distributor and plug wires with a healthy dose of WD-40. Close the hood, get in the truck, crank it up up and drive on thru the mudhole and go on my way. It worked every time.

PS: That truck was a big part of my dislike for Ford vehicles. It certainly fit the fix or repair daily reputation of Ford and I didn't abuse it. There was constantly something wrong with it that was costing me money to repair or replace. Being a slow learner I suppose, I worked out of it for five years cussing it almost daily.

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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2020, 02:12:25 AM »
(The cloranated solvents in it are bad for most types of steel and really bad for stainless.)

Please explain. Got any pictures of damage caused by them? Links to facts from metallurgists or just hearsay?

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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2020, 08:15:09 AM »
"When used on motorcycle throttle cables it can cause them to stick open causing bad crashes and even worse on snowmobiles where it will freeze long before anything else causing the throttle to stick open so bad that pulling out on the throttle lever won't help."

Tony,

Someone mentioned that WD40 is NOT really a lubricant.  I concur it does get sticky when left on.  I think if you don't use it where lubrication is the issue and just use it for rust prevention - keeping in mind the sticky after effect - it has some very good uses.  It's too bad folks misuse it innocently, I can see where it could be mistakenly used as a cable lube being a spray straw.  I freezing weather they say to de-lube your guns so the don't freeze up, maybe a graphite spray would work better on snowmobiles.  :-\ 

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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2020, 12:44:02 PM »
I keep a can around. It can be useful.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2020, 01:02:41 PM »
If  you read the home site, it is not toxic in that it will not cause serious harm.
If  you swallow it, it is make you puke or give you the (censored word) but no serious harm.
Maybe it is old Coke.

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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2020, 02:45:04 PM »
Years ago my late wife had a small resale shop and one day this elderly Black woman came in and we were talking WD40 and she said she kept a can on her night stand and when she woke in the morning first thing she did was spray some on her knees and she was good to go for the day said she had been using it for years. Maybe I need to give it a try my knees they are giving me problems. Was there also a product to compete with WD40 I think it was CRC but it had a very bad smell.

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Re: Always keep some WD40 on hand.
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2020, 07:50:43 PM »
Years ago my late wife had a small resale shop and one day this elderly Black woman came in and we were talking WD40 and she said she kept a can on her night stand and when she woke in the morning first thing she did was spray some on her knees and she was good to go for the day said she had been using it for years. Maybe I need to give it a try my knees they are giving me problems. Was there also a product to compete with WD40 I think it was CRC but it had a very bad smell.

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It's called the PLACEBO effect.  It works on people with weak minds.  On the other hand another industrial product was found to have healing benefits and has been tested and proven to work.  It's called DMSO...

Back in the 1970's Ruger used to use WD40 in the assembly of their guns.  Along the way they started having a problem with the barrels snapping off just past the threads and not always on firing.  Sometimes a barrel would snap off in the box.  Part of the problem was in the assembly process and the rest was from the chlorinated solvents in WD40.  This information all came from Ed Harris the former QC manager at Ruger.

If you need a penetrating oil that really works, mix automatic transmission fluid 50/50 with either kerosene or mineral spirits.  It's not as handy and the tomcat wiz in a can but it works a whole heck of a lot better.

BTW, if you use dielectric grease around the spark plug high tension leads at both the cap and the plug, then a thin coat around the bottom of the distributor cap, you won't have to worry about wet ignition problems.  Many years ago I had a beat up old Chevy phone company van.  It was cheap and ugly but you could pack it full and it never seemed to notice the load until you got to a puddle of water then it would stall out.  Give it a few minutes on the side of the road and the engine heat would dry it out and I could be on my way again.  After a few times, I'd had enough of that and I sealed the wire ends with dielectric grease and put thin coat on the bottom of the distributor cap.  It never again stalled going though a puddle and I once had to drive it through 2+ feet of flood waters back in 1996.  It's an ounce of prevention thing...  This isn't a Ford or Chevy problem, it can happen on all cars.  Any yes, I used to be a mechanic only age and infirmity have caused me to give it up.

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2020, 01:32:31 AM »
  Just keep in mind, WD40 is NOT a lubricant, and if it is all you use on a bike chain, a 10/22 or a fishing reel, you could eventually run into problems.
  On the other hand, it has been successfully used on ignition systems for years.

  So far as melting certain plastics...I use brake or carburetor cleaner when cleaning my rifles, but I never allow either to come in contact with plastic parts, if the gun has them.

   You will have a hard time telling me it is useless, when I saw my neighbor pull 18-20 warm, wet .22s out of his burning house, treated just one.  That rifle came through fine, the rest were very rusty in a couple days.
    I say, "use with caution", but to say it is useless, would seem to fly in the face of the many uses listed in the OP ! 
   Employ discretion; I use Hoppes #9 or Break Free on my rifles, but I don't use either one to sweeten my coffee in the morning!  ;)  :D

   
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2020, 03:56:09 AM »
I honestly won’t have a can. Made my mind up on that stuff a long time ago. Many better alternatives. Distributor cap with points. Ah, those were the days.

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2020, 07:00:47 AM »
( Ah, those were the days.)

 If you consider having a big PIA compared to today's ignition systems they were. I still remember my fast '57 chevy. Every 4,000 miles I had to replace the points, condenser, plugs, and wires to keep it running right.

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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2020, 08:11:06 AM »
"If you need a penetrating oil that really works, mix automatic transmission fluid 50/50 with either kerosene or mineral spirits.  It's not as handy and the tomcat wiz in a can but it works a whole heck of a lot better."

Thanks for the tip Tony.  ATF fluid makes a pretty good gun solvent as well.  Also synthetic oil can be used as a general gun lube, according to a competitive shooter I read from.
Finally if there are any of the old school "bakalite" distributor caps around a cheap waterproofing - but temporary - is hair spray all over the cap.  When mine got wet I would bake it in the oven to remove the moisture then spray with hair spray.

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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2020, 08:34:28 AM »
There are penetrating lubricants available to day that are far, far superior to those even twenty years ago, while the myriad of products available is also massive compared to when WD40 first hit the market.
EPA nazis have probably done more make old school good stuff go away than some one else's new improved product.
I know for painting , preserving wood that is a fact.

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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2020, 08:41:53 AM »
They have done away with most "chlorinated" solvents for automotive use, like brake cleaners, because the chlorine makes any waste oil non-recyclable.  It only take a little bit to make the waste oil "toxic waste" and much more expensive to get rid of.

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2020, 08:59:31 AM »
ATF is what I used to use to unstick motorcycle engines when a bike was left sit a long time in a damp garage.  Later on Ed Harris used it in his ED's Red home brew gun cleaner and Ed also mentioned using it as a gun oil.  Since it's cheap and works, I keep a bottle in my work shop and refill old gun oil bottles with it...

Dielectric grease is far better than hair spray and you only need to put it around the mating surfaces of the distributor cap. 

I can't remember all the times I got an old car running again with an emery board, a bushiness card and a screw driver.  BTW, dielectric grease is the same stuff they used to sell as point cam lube for a lot more money for what little you got.  If you need to use a lot like on rewiring an old car or bike, clear silicone grease is the same stuff,  cheaper and often easier to find.

Now for an old man story, back in the bad old days I went to Portland State University the same one near where all the insanity happened this past summer.  As a poor student, I didn't like getting a 20 out of a cash machine because once I broke that 20, I'd spent it really fast.  So if I needed to get lunch and I'd walk 2 blocks east to a bank where the ATM dispensed fivers.  One day just after I'd gotten my cash and I had turned around to cross the street to head back to the university a Ford pinto went chug, chug, chug and died right in front of me.  The guy behind the wheel got out and loudly proclaimed F'ing carburetor.  Since he was blocking my way, I figured I'd have a look at it.  First off I told him that it sounded like an ignition problem and to pop the hood.  To make long story shorter, I found that the point cam had never been lubed and had worn down to almost nothing and the points weren't opening any more.  I explained why it had happened told him he'd need new points but if he had a screw driver, I could get him going.  He produced the worst looking screw driver I think I've ever used.  I took a business card out of my wallet, gapped the points and he drove off.

Kinda reminds me of the Jeff Foxworthy routine about why aliens abduct red necks..

Tony